― Black Arkestra (Black Arkestra), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 4 September 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link
...and the gatefold snapshot.
― tipustiger, Saturday, 4 September 2004 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 4 September 2004 03:41 (nineteen years ago) link
That's bullshit. I mean, yeah, the rhythm guitar at the beginning of "Search and Destroy" starts off sounding like "Street Fighting Man," but, like on all the other more revved-up tracks on the album, it ends up being WAY more relentless and yakkety. That was called "punk."
His leads strike me as being very Jimmy Page-like, actually. Matter of fact, now that I think of it, the influence on his rhythm playing seems to have been "Train Kept a-Rollin'"/"Communication Breakdown" (check "Shake Appeal," "Death Trip," maybe even "Raw Power").
Give the guy some fucking credit.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link
....well, not at the time it wasn't.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 4 September 2004 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link
I've never heard the Bowie mix.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 4 September 2004 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 4 September 2004 08:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 4 September 2004 08:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:24 (nineteen years ago) link
thats what makes it so damn great!
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Personally I get different things out of all three, but if I HAD to choose... Fun House it is.
― Shady Loch Lenin (haitch), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, we jammed Raw Power at the COLLEGE PARTY last night.
Raw Power = pop!Funhouse = noise!
Both great! But I would never play Funhouse at a party
― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
"iggggyy!"
― eedd, Sunday, 5 September 2004 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― pete badmusik (pete badmusik), Sunday, 5 September 2004 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Raw Power is pretty great too, altho neither Bowie's nor Iggy's mix was completely satisfactory.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link
it would be a tightass pointscoring thing to say that iggy's raw power rules not because there's BASS but because you can hear the GLOCKENSPIEL...but really it's because of the BASS. grunge rock lives!!
i think fun house is better.
― g--ff (gcannon), Sunday, 5 September 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Funhouse would be absolutely fine to play at a party, what are you talking about?
if you wanna know why Raw Power is pretty crap, just listen to the 10x better outtakes from those sessions like "Gimme Some Skin" and "I Got A Right." Those two songs alone make Raw Power sound like the dogshit it is (sorry, but Bowie should be drawn + quartered for it). Not to mention "Scene of The Crime" and "Tight Pants" (which is a version of "Shake Appeal" that totally crushes the one on the album)
― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 5 September 2004 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Am having problems understanding the concept of "too OTT" vis a vis The Stooges
― Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 5 September 2004 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 10:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 5 September 2004 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 5 September 2004 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 10:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link
YES
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 5 September 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link
i don't know bowie's version, but iggy's mix is so f*%%@in' LOUD.
So I vote for Raw Power.
― Elvis is Dead, Sunday, 5 September 2004 12:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 5 September 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Funhouse is infinitely better, either way. After the first side of Raw Power that album has nothing going for it, and, as mentioned earlier, "I Got A Right" and "Gimme Some Skin" blow away pretty much anything on Raw Power.
― Vic Funk, Sunday, 5 September 2004 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 6 September 2004 06:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― antonius, Monday, 6 September 2004 06:55 (nineteen years ago) link
"Raw power isnt even that hot an album"NO
"Bowies production is awful too."
NO
"Iggy's mix of Raw Power makes it close"
"I feel that the Stooges didn't age well"
"it's intial production (by Bowie) rendered it so tinny and comapritively lifeless"
"Mildly catchy, mildly interesting, mildly annoying, too."
"I prefer the Iggy mix of Raw Power"
"raw power is the critic's choice and funhouse is for those who hate critics"
"they never made a great album as all of their efforts havesomething that fuck it up"
"(we're talking about the iggy mix, accept no substitutes here.)"
"S/T since it was produced by Cale and had neither noise norrock but instead attitude"
"contains one unlistenable song in "L.A. Blues."
"In my experience, I've converted more of theunconverted via Raw Power than Funhouse (current score: 3 to 0,) and that kind of populist appeal probably counts for something"
"RAW POWER still kicks a mighty big ass, but you've got to admit that there are somecomparitively weak tracks there"
"the debut is horribly pale and weak incomparison"
"Rethink: I s'pose the true snobs' answer would be "the unreleased one."
"arguin about these records is pointless.....they are all beautiful untouchable artworks.....each can be appreciated for hellish attitude...even all the unreleased stuff.....these guys were comin apart at the seams and who has come close to POP/WILLIAMSON/ASHETON?????? FUCKEN NOBODY!!!!"
Hahahahaha! OTM!
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, September 3, 2004 8:34 PM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link
The people in this thread who were seriously arguing in favor of Iggy's played-through-a-blown-out-answering-machine wannabe-Guitar-Wolf mix of Raw Power were collectively out of their fucking minds.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link
taking sides: the weirdness vs ready to die
― Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
fun house vs exile on main street
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
Ready to Die is actually a lot better than The Weirdness, and only partly because The Weirdness is the worst album Iggy's ever done. RtD stands on its own merits.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link
imo: raw power: bowie vs iggy mixes
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link
Fun House
I like The Weirdness.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
http://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/181796572_10164947181800431_4648346596775892712_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=vN0ZYp4cCk4AX_ynehV&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=f0fb9f942c486173dd8d0a576ff913b8&oe=60B2B6FB
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 2 May 2021 14:02 (three years ago) link
Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre. Raw Power is pretty good.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 2 May 2021 14:09 (three years ago) link
WT...?
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 May 2021 14:12 (three years ago) link
Pretty much. Raw Power has some good songs destroyed by inexplicable production choices.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link
Funhouse is probably “better,” but I’m less likely to throw it on.
― smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
(I also love Williamson’s gtr playing, as a matter of personal taste.)
― smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
no sax on raw power so fuck that album
― Left, Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre. Raw Power is pretty good.― pomenitul, Sunday, 2 May 2021
― pomenitul, Sunday, 2 May 2021
Correct
― Duke, Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
side 2 of Raw Power kinda drags for me but side 1 is one of the best side 1s ever
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link
pomenitul otm. I don't dislike Raw Power, but it sounded and felt so self-conscious after Fun House, like they were trying to live up to or create or re-create some nebulous myth(s) about themselves...and with a guitarist who was uninterested in taking risks. And wrt the awful production, the drums on Fun House are popping all over the place, the source of that record's agitation; on Raw Power they're buried under a heavy blanket.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link
Is that a real cartoon or a photoshop?
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 May 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link
Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre.
it is absolutely perfect that don gallucci played keyboards on the kingsmen's version of "louie louie" and went on to record the first american prog album (touch) before producing this
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 2 May 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
Fun House and Raw Power are two of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 May 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link
I love both, though not sure either is the best Stooges record tbh
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 2 May 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
Tonight I'm listening to the disc from the Fun House box that has 14 takes of "TV Eye" in a row. Because fuck my downstairs neighbors.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 18 July 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link
RAW POWER
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 July 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link
They’re both 5 stars records though
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 July 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link