This has leaked, and it is glorious.
He expanded his sound so much on the new record. I stayed away from all the songs that were floating around the web already in live/demo versions, so it's all fresh to my ears. It's way less dense and galling a sound than the previous album. There's more room for fizzy frivolities, both synth and vocal wise. There's colorful backing vocals, This is still John Maus, mind, there's no 'wall of sound' all of a sudden, but there's so much more space in the sound. I can't describe it any other way. He's broadened his audio-scope for sure.
'Hey Moon' immediately stands out as an alternate-universe lullaby/love-song classic, warm glowing piano sounds tickled by metallic lo-fi beats he's got a patent on, a high pitched synth line swirling through the song coyly. And there's so much going on on this record, so much to discover and drop your jaw at. Wow.
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:15 (fourteen years ago)
'Matter of Fact' and 'Believer' instant faves too. Esp the latter, which chorus really reminds me of an eighties hit, but I can't for the life of me figure out which one.
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:24 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe it's just 10,000th 80s choruses
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
Can't wait to listen!
― Z S, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:26 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, good album. Interviewing the guy tomorrow, anyone want me to ask him anything?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 03:03 (fourteen years ago)
Really enjoying the new album, as I said above.
Ned, I don't so much have a direct question, but I do wonder about his recording process. I believe he's still a philosophy professor, no? Does he pick a period to retreat in a home studio and write and record the album, or is it something that comes together over a long period of time, when he's got some spare time?Not a real question but I'd be interested to learn more about this.
― Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 08:58 (fourteen years ago)
Could be fun! I'll ask and see.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)
Fun interview! Dude talks mile a minute but I like it!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
PUSSY IS NOT A MATTER OF FACT
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)
the last show I saw of his, his performance was pretty eclipsed by geneva jacuzzi's
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
funny that geneva jacuzzi hasn't really blown up yet in any way I know of and the last show I went to, one of the acts was a clone of hers
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (fourteen years ago)
xp Was she wearing mime makeup?
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
The forthcoming tour will allow for compare/contrast again there -- he was also talking about how he's looking forward to playing with Puro again, loved them at the SXSW shows they did.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
yeah her face was all made up
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
Did you get to discuss the recording process, his working ways? And if you don't mind me asking, for which publication are you writing this interview?
― Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:58 (fourteen years ago)
Great record, kicking myself for not seeing him live when he played round here 6 months back.
― Neil O'Jism (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
just want to say that jacuzzi is a must see live imo
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
saw her years ago and she was rolling on the floor screaming in sparkly clothes while a bunch of strobe lights went off and now she has like a whole fuckin stage performance, like she is a real live performer
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
But she's just a cdr performer. I would've been happy to see her when she came to town a couple weeks ago, but they doubled the ticket price from $10 to $20 ($7 for preorders).
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
Also, it was dance music and nobody was dancing. Trite complaint, I know, but I felt a little like dancing at the time.
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
man I didn't even mention the prerecorded aspect of it because I've just seen so many performances like that and was so happy to see one that was good
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
but yeah you made the right call $20 is way too expensive for her
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
I did, and you'll find out more when the piece runs next week in the OC Weekly. :-D (In brief, it's very much an on the fly thing.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
Maus/Puro playing in LA when I'm in town, I think the Echo.
― joyless shithead (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
Great Ned! :-) Looking forward to it!
― Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:12 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, that lineup's playing earlier that week in Costa Mesa (thus the story).
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
Meanwhile, interview up at the Quietus:
http://thequietus.com/articles/06499-john-maus-interview
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 July 2011 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
man do i regret not reading this thread last week! i didnt have the record until this wknd tho...
― google butt (Lamp), Monday, 4 July 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
This is a great record, I want to write more but my thoughts are mostly about "degradation" plug-ins, mastering to VHS, "Is this chillwave and what does liking it say about a man" etc.
― Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 01:07 (fourteen years ago)
"Is this chillwave and what does liking it say about a man"
hope it says good things!
― Z S, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 03:20 (fourteen years ago)
yeah this is the sorta record that tempts you into writing/saying a bunch of grandiose garbage about it, mb? it also feels like the sorta thing that i might be embarrassed about liking cuz its so pseud-friendly
my thoughts are mostly like: '...'
― Lamp, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 05:32 (fourteen years ago)
I'm kind of worried about attending to it in too much depth.
Would love to see him live.. there's a great YT of him doing 'Matter Of Fact' in Paris, he looks like he gets into it.
― One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 10:36 (fourteen years ago)
Absolutely not making any grand theoretical statements about it, but... it is undeniable that it is a fucking great record.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:28 (fourteen years ago)
It is a great record! Also thx this record for alerting me to the existence of Molly Nilsson, since "Hey Moon" was the track to leap out at me on the first few listens.
― sticky crisco (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)
That is the first one that jumped out at me, as well. Molly Nilsson, eh? Any relation?
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:30 (fourteen years ago)
The grand theoretical statements about this record are wildly offputting.
― Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:42 (fourteen years ago)
Probably so (ditto Ford & Lopatin), but the record IS pretty great. As is, of course, the Ford & Lopatin thing.
― henry s, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
Hooray my interview. (Euclidean thoughts? Not my headline!)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 22:38 (fourteen years ago)
Nice piece, Ned! And you indeed get him to talk about what he sees as the "artist's process", the unveiling of artistic work.
It does read as if you could've written an article four times as long!
― Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 7 July 2011 22:56 (fourteen years ago)
Hahah I could well have done. But wordcounts are wordcounts!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 01:31 (fourteen years ago)
That's not a bad headline! I thought it was gonna be "The Maus That Floored...Me" or something like that.
― henry s, Friday, 8 July 2011 01:39 (fourteen years ago)
Every interview I read with that guy he's so Tragic and Heavy I LOVE IT
― Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 02:34 (fourteen years ago)
He actually sounded pretty exuberant! If intense.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 02:42 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/click-track/post/in-concert-john-maus-at-black-cat/2011/07/06/gIQAInK50H_blog.html
Washington Post writer hates the live showan excerpt:
A number of questions run through your mind during a John Maus concert.
What's he saying? Is he being serious? Is he okay? Isn't this a Kajagoogoo song? Who told that kid dancing up front that was an acceptable haircut?
But one question comes up more than any other — what's the point?
When Maus performs, as he did Tuesday at the Black Cat's backstage, it's like '80s karaoke night minus the hits — plus a hint of crazy. For 25 minutes the 31-year-old electronic music composer stalked the stage, leaped into the air, pulled his hair and howled along to his pre-recorded music that sounded like the third generation audio cassette dub of a long-forgotten new wave band. The way he shouted, flexed and bulged his eyes you half expected his skin to turn green and for him to transform into The Incredible Maus.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 July 2011 12:19 (fourteen years ago)
Sounds like a review of mid-2000s Ariel Pink
― Z S, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:22 (fourteen years ago)
All week I've been planning on picking this up after wory today, but now that BNM is going to mean it'll be sold out if they didn't order enough copies. Thats really my only beef with Pitchfork.
I've been a little lukewarm on his stuff prior to this album, but "Cop Killer" and all the iTunes samples I've heard make this sound like pretty much the perfect fit for my ears in 2011.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:50 (fourteen years ago)
I've never seen him live, but the pics at that Washington Post link are pretty hilarious.
― She Got the Shakes, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:23 (fourteen years ago)
(to be fair, there are tons of bands I love where live pics of them wouldn't do any justice to how intense the shows can actually be)
― She Got the Shakes, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
Hmm. Do people really have a problem with "Rights For Gays"? I'm surprised that people would write it off as a piss-take.
John's live show reminds me of the live shows of other people I know who also went to CalArts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLpadyo9cFw
― Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)
When I saw him last, his laptop was screwing up with the playback and he shook it and pounded it, in character, 'til it fixed itself. I love this guy.
― Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
That's putting your money where your mouth is for sure. Given the above observation that his donating habits changed post-reconciliation with his wife and with his move to LA, I wonder if that played a part.
In any case, this all just makes me sad.
― octobeard, Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:58 (five years ago)
He's a dead maus to me now
― kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 21:20 (five years ago)
fwiw i didn’t realize he’d donated to DT4PREZ and winred when i wrote my post above, obviously that’s beyond the pale
― flopson, Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:09 (five years ago)
― kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, January 16, 2021 4:20 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol
― flopson, Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:10 (five years ago)
vector control has been called
― sarahell, Sunday, 17 January 2021 17:22 (five years ago)
please tell me Gary War doesn't suck too
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 23:23 (five years ago)
So where does donating to Winred sit on the cancellation scale in comparison to rape, sexual assault and openly sexist verbal abuse (thinking in relation to say Mark Kozelek, Derrick May, and Michael Gira) or marrying an anti-labor billionaire who relishes in toppling governments to retain supplies of lithium (thinking Grimes)?
― octobeard, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:25 (five years ago)
There's no Cancellation Bureau, you can make your own decision (or: Instances where you can't separate the art from the artist. vs. instances where you can.)
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:43 (five years ago)
"basically the Gen X hipster bros are dividing into factions: the ones that are actually kinda stupid and sexist / racist / transphobic and the ones that aren't."
I suppose it's inevitable that our generation would go through this same thing, we saw it happen to our parents.
― akm, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:10 (five years ago)
"I learned it from watching you!"
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:40 (five years ago)
lol all those ppl suck too
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:57 (five years ago)
xxp - I think our parents' generation went through it earlier on? This is like the hippies that became yuppies after getting older and making $$$, minus the making $$$ part, because some of these dudes still live in the same rent controlled apartments.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:38 (five years ago)
some people graduate but be still stupid
― treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:03 (five years ago)
xp It’s hard to say because Bush won every age group (including the youngest voters) in ‘88, and the same with Regan (by a much wider margin) in ‘84. Anecdotally, the former-hippie Boomers I know who became Republicans didn’t do so until the early ‘90s, when they were in their early ’40s, and earning $$ wasn’t the driving factor (as that had already happened) as much as other cultural factors.
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:13 (five years ago)
(Also keep in mind that white voters in every age group voted for Trump in both ‘16 and ‘20—it’s not like it’s some anomaly—but I don’t know how to account specifically for supposed non-Trumpers who went Trump only recently.)
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:21 (five years ago)
(White millennials seem to have turned out even harder for Trump this year than last time; though CNN shifted their exit-poll age group brackets, so it’s not apples to apples.)
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:24 (five years ago)
fun situation brewing in the vaporwave community thanks to this guy, apparently George Clanton invited him to headline Electronicon 4, which caused a big stir due to him being at J6 and donating a ton of money to Trump and just being an idiot in general, to the point where George uninvited him, which is now causing all these people to whine about safe spaces and cancel culture and what not, it's just a big dumb mess that could've easily been avoided
George deserves the benefit of the doubt on this imo and he ultimately did the right thing, but the dude can be tone deaf sometimes
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:35 (two years ago)
Guess he found god or something:
“The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time a claim is made to realize, within history, that messianic hope which can only be fulfilled beyond history through the eschatological judgment.”
(This in the PR for his new single "I Hate Antichrist.")
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 June 2025 15:51 (eleven months ago)
So when he says "scatological judgement" is he referring to shite or that "bip bip boo mmm mama lama wikk wee hoo" type of singing?
― henry s, Wednesday, 11 June 2025 16:05 (eleven months ago)
Checks out, really; he put a cathedral on the cover of his first CD-R and then used the same image for his last release.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 17:31 (eleven months ago)