Has Led Zeppelin Dated Poorly?

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to click or not to click?

(i do want to do some damned writing this am)

bb, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

Amount-of-stuff-written / Interstingness-of-stuff-written

In Zeppelin's case, it's about a million to one. Not my favorite band in the world, but I like 'em, and I can't think of a band that I'm less interested in reading about.

contenderizer, Friday, 29 February 2008 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

five years pass...

So, finally I get a Zep albums box set (it even has all the InThrough alternate sleeves, finickity bunch..)

And the first is dull, the second has good bits but all were done better by the Small Faces..

The third is getting there, the fourth has the big ones and I can appreciate it if not love it.

Houses of the Holy. Now, then. This is the one where it all works! I know it has the two tracks the zep afich love to hate, but the whole thing works!

Phys Graf I have already, and about half of it I like. It seems those tracks are the "old" ones..

Anyway, I did Presence today, it's ok I guess but I won't be returning to it..

So, I have, um, SongRemains and InThrough and Coda to go.

I dunno, it seems like a slog. Are there riches ahead?

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:14 (twelve years ago)

you've been through the best, InThrough is boring, SongRemains = meh live recording, Coda I haven't heard.

Houses of the Holy is my fav, but man seeing "first is dull" and "second has good bit" makes me wanna ;_;

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:16 (twelve years ago)

Their only good song is All of my Love

Treeship, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:19 (twelve years ago)

I think I speak for everyone when I say that

Treeship, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:19 (twelve years ago)

*All my Love. I always mess up that title.

Treeship, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:24 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9XSDoHSsTg

Zachary Taylor, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:26 (twelve years ago)

InThrough is boring

lol waht

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:40 (twelve years ago)

it is! I fuck with Presence but Out Door can succ it

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:45 (twelve years ago)

And the first is dull, the second has good bits but all were done better by the Small Faces..

RONG

the late great, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:03 (twelve years ago)

soo wrong that I cannot even begin to explain why

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:06 (twelve years ago)

except just ;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:07 (twelve years ago)

Led Zep 2 is my fav of the first four. "Lemon Song" is the shit

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:15 (twelve years ago)

The studio version of 'We're Gonna Groove' on Coda is great. But even better is the live version on the DVD.

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:19 (twelve years ago)

Led Zeppelin through Houses of the Holy are all 5 star albums. it just takes a while to get to that point but it usually happens.

Bee OK, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:20 (twelve years ago)

and than you get the double Physical Graffiti.

Bee OK, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:24 (twelve years ago)

SongRemains = meh live recording

The original version, maybe, but the Rhino reissue is amazingly well remastered and includes a bunch of bonus tracks, and the whole thing is re-sequenced - now it's an amazing live album. Highly recommended, in fact.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:26 (twelve years ago)

will have to check it out. I actually only had a beat-up vinyl copy of it!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:30 (twelve years ago)

I : Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
II : Ramble On
III : Tangerine / Immigrant Song
IV : When The Leeve Breaks
Houses of the Holy : over the hills / rain song

Those songs alone give the albums at least 4 stars for containing them.

Moka, Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:09 (twelve years ago)

Let's Talk About The Led Zeppelin Epic Track- "Carouselambra"

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:15 (twelve years ago)

moka otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:54 (twelve years ago)

over the hills is my fave led zep, on certain days

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:55 (twelve years ago)

SongRemains = meh live recording

The original version, maybe, but the Rhino reissue is amazingly well remastered and includes a bunch of bonus tracks, and the whole thing is re-sequenced - now it's an amazing live album. Highly recommended, in fact.

― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:26 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I believe this is the version in the box..

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:09 (twelve years ago)

And the first is dull, the second has good bits but all were done better by the Small Faces..

Agree with this mostly fwiw. Led Zep I to me is just Communication Breakdown + a load of boring hippy crap. It's not that I hate Led Zep, I like a lot of stuff from II-Physical Graffiti.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:15 (twelve years ago)

:((((((((

my super-power is to turn into a bowling ball (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:30 (twelve years ago)

I do think you have to be picky with most of them tbh. I and II have filler. PG *might* but I've never quite got my head round the whole thing. Presence I used to feel, but it's a slog for me now (oddly, the two ten-minuters fly by). Coda you only need to flick through once.

But III, IV, HOTH and on a good day ITTOD are straight-through grand.

Intrigued about this SRTS edit though. It's always had good bits, but no way did I think there was a great album in there busting to get out.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:39 (twelve years ago)

I did presume "InThru" to be the last 'jewel' in the box, do have to 'slog' through SomgRemains (hey, that's a Stump song!) as rules is rules..

PhysGraf, I do consider one of the all time "great double album, but needs lots of playing before you know it" like the Beatles' white album, and "Sandinista" (I know,etc)

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:50 (twelve years ago)

"Good Times, Bad Times" is one of the greatest Album 1, Side 1, Track 1s of all time. OF ALL TIME.

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 July 2013 12:16 (twelve years ago)

I'd skip Song Remains The Same and pay attention instead to the BBC Sessions

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 4 July 2013 12:37 (twelve years ago)

"Good Times, Bad Times" is one of the greatest Album 1, Side 1, Track 1s of all time. OF ALL TIME.

― This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, July 4, 2013 8:16 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:09 (twelve years ago)

Besides the opening vocal on "Bring It On Home" (II)- one of the few Plant vocals that I really dislike - the power of that track is ALL TIME.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:25 (twelve years ago)

A good place as any to post Marcello's outstanding review of Presence: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/led-zeppelin-presence.html

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:27 (twelve years ago)

I'd skip Song Remains The Same and pay attention instead to the BBC Sessions

Is not in't box.

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:31 (twelve years ago)

What does the box look like?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:32 (twelve years ago)

A cube (I mean each side the same size), black, inside slides out..

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:34 (twelve years ago)

http://www.toymania.com/columns/spotlight/images/s1hellraiserbox.jpg

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:41 (twelve years ago)

No, more like http://image.blog.bitcomet.com/postpic/20081020/7954358_engcdf081020081511.jpeg

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:43 (twelve years ago)

Isn't the version of We're Gonna Groove on CODA just the live take with overdubs?

Anyway, yes to BBC sessions and Lemon Song. Turns out that, contrary to my Jimmy Page-worshipping teens, every Zep song I truly love has JPJ's funk at its core: Lemon Song, Travelling Riverside Blues, How Many More Times, etc. etc.

SongOfSam, Thursday, 4 July 2013 14:46 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, Royal Albert Hall recording w/overdubs. xpost

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 4 July 2013 15:08 (twelve years ago)

I know the OP is 5 years old now but I hear variations on this sometimes:

Jimmy Page's solos ("Heartbreaker" for one) were always ridiculously slapdash

Are there even any 'slapdash' moments after the first two albums, let alone ones that are ridiculously so? I definitely don't think this is a sensible thing to say about e.g. "Achilles's Last Stand".

The comments about the production seem insane too.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 4 July 2013 23:17 (twelve years ago)

Hot dog solo is remarkably pathetic

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 4 July 2013 23:26 (twelve years ago)

OK, I don't listen much at all to that album, admittedly, and never thought of "Hot Dog" as more than throwaway filler. "Always" is pretty OTT though.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 5 July 2013 00:36 (twelve years ago)

"Good Times, Bad Times" is one of the greatest Album 1, Side 1, Track 1s of all time. OF ALL TIME.

― This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, July 4, 2013 8:16 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also, "I'm Gonna Crawl" one of the most affecting Last Album, Side 2, Last Tracks of all time.

Lee626, Friday, 5 July 2013 01:24 (twelve years ago)

no

mookieproof, Friday, 5 July 2013 01:32 (twelve years ago)

yes.

even if it wasn't intended to be their last album, but that's part of why it's so affecting for me.

"In Through The Out Door" was the only Zep album i'm old enough to rembember when it was new. I only listened to pop/top-40 radio at the time, and it sounded like nothing else I'd ever heard on the radio. It also didn't sound much like any other Led Zeppelin album. I still think it's underrated, at least compared to their other albums.

Lee626, Friday, 5 July 2013 01:54 (twelve years ago)

they sound a hell of a lot better to me now than they did in the 80s, so i figure they've dated rather well

Me and my pool noodle (contenderizer), Friday, 5 July 2013 02:09 (twelve years ago)

Hot dog solo is remarkably pathetic

― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:26 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They really should have flown in James Burton to overdub that one. Jimmy was aiming for it, but the H was taking it's toll that day.

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 5 July 2013 02:10 (twelve years ago)

Eh, so his timing and articulation are off a bit. I still think "Hot Dog"'s a great little anomaly in the Crunge/D'yer Maker tradition.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 5 July 2013 02:23 (twelve years ago)


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