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Dog Latin, thought you were overly positive about that gig, I was really bummed out by it. it just felt that neither of them got into the groove at all and the minute the crowd began feeling it, then they stopped and started again.

and after the minimum time they could play for, they legged it....

been trying to understand why this was so different from the gig at the Ether festival, and I can only guess that the layout of the Shackleton means everyone stays in the pub area and only fills the venue as the band come on, which means the crowd are not warmed up and the no one can gauge the crowd till the band come on.

I liked the gig but found myself apologizing to friends I had brought along for a hit and miss 30 min set.

This sounds unbearably bright to me as well, I associate that strain of production with particularly hamfisted frankendance BUT I assume Lopatin knows what he's doing here. But to me it just sounds fucking horrible and flattens out any textural interest that might be there.

Hamildan, yes I agree it wasn't exactly the most enthralling thing I'd ever seen and I think I mentioned it was waaaay too short, plus a bit arms-across-chest. The subheading on that article makes it out to be more positive than I felt. Their set at primavera was kind of similar and I was surprised at the lack of snare.

Channel Pressure : brightness :: Psychocandy : surface noise

'The Voices', especially the chorus, is killing me. It sounds like an M83 track with a different singer. So much going on, such a perfect build of tiny details and a lush vocal loop.

the cupid and psyche connection... both records are extremely EXTROVERTED synth pop records with tons of gorgeous sounds whizzing by. intricate design. channel pressure is extremely 1985... the rise of fairlights/digital sampling mixing in with synthpop. i'm also reminded of mid-late80s 12" pop "dub" mixes where horn stabs and noises dart in and out.. just the whole gimmicky "this sampler thing is fun, let's throw sounds all over the place" approach but done with care and precision.

and it's weird how that approach kind of converges with the whole stuttering/"nu-glitch" vibe that seems to be going on (com truise, onra, james blake, dilla copyists, etc.). damn, i might be reaching here.

Clarke B. thanks for the heads up on Heaven Can Wait. I got a hold of Spend the Night With Games (which is excellent), glad to see there's more.

yeah i agree with you blank but at the same time i feel like those are the least unique aspects of scritti politti, there's not a lot of 80s pop your description doesn't match

right, that's why i pointed to 12" remixes and such. that seemingly haphazard but conscientious approach to throwing sounds around which i think is absent from most/all 80s revival stuff. i guess i'm just trying to get this back to the "wrong side of the eighties" thing that was mentioned earlier.

I still don't have Spend the Night with Games, but you should definitely get the That We Can Play EP--really solid top to bottom. Heaven Can Wait is literally just slowed down jams with some echo and synth added here and there, but many of the choices are really inspired (and I never knew how amazing Sandra was!). From a music theory 101 perspective, I think some of the perceived kinship between Channel Pressure and Cupid & Psyche 85 might also have to do with the predominance of major keys on both records, which speaks to a complete lack of "dour" on both records as well. And I like blank's point about the 12" extended dub remix feel to some of these Channel Pressure tracks. This record is really incredible.

Yeah spend the night is just a dj mix. 80s boogie, slowed down michael franks, a track from maxinquaye, sweet stuff.

that we can play is kind of ehhh, IMO. They really stepped things up with the LP. Not all that different, just better production and songs.

moonship is right w/r/t Channel
Pressure sounding like a non-specific 80s album. However, It evokes a lot of thoughts of stylistic shifts through the 80s, for me. Like, where do the early80s end and the late80s begin lol?

Got this on Friday and have been playing non stop since..

Its definitely a nod to the teen film soundtracks of the 80s, with the detuned synths mirroring a VHS losing its tracking during the film titles.

Been trying to place the narrative that was talked up in the hype for this album and I feel that the cover image & teaser video is more of a mood board for the album, rather than a concept album proper.

There's more lyrics/actual songs than I expected and it feels more assured than the games we play ep, this seems more a statement of intent, whist earlier releases were Flopatin just seeing what worked.

In another universe John Hughes is sound-tracking his films to this and twenty years later we're on an internet message board talking about a new synth duo who have released a song called 'Oh Yeah'.

break inside & too much midi are two tracks of the year imo

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what wld the ford&lopatinmobile be like?

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have a gold star

"too much midi" is pretty incredible after that bridge when the other part of the song kicks in. gotta <3 those synth stabs

didn't realize this was related to adult swim in any way but after the video for "world of regret" i guess it makes sense

yeah the terius/prince bit is a massive treat

CALL ME MR CLUTCH

thanks to spectrist i can now picture this w/ great lucidity

Its definitely a nod to the teen film soundtracks of the 80s, with the detuned synths mirroring a VHS losing its tracking during the film titles.

Seemingly every producer has been doing detuned synths for the past couple of years. I fucking hate them by now.

i'm hoping the new neon indian album will be better than this tho i don't expect it to be quite as intricate.

loved like half of this but was suspicious abt how i could really like something made by the same ppl who made the other half. pretty curious to listen again though

I think people's initial hesitancy with this record despite their attraction to it, combined with the frequently echoed sentiment of wanting to return to it, bodes really well for its longevity. A lot of my favorite records I struggled with initially, at least in some small way.

Love this...I think having the instrumental disk is ubersavvy, will flip between the two and extend the listening lifespan somewhat.

instrumental disc? what is this? well, it sounds obvious but yeah - not with the vinyl. Bastards.

I don't know about neon Indian. I only heard the track that basically just samples a rundgren song in it's entirety and adds bad flaming lips style vocals. Does it really have much to do with this?

I kind of think this album does drag after Joey Rogers, apart from surrender and world of regret.

so after 8 of 12 only 2 are worth hearing?

Does anybody have an opinion on the Infinity Window record? Someone just passed me a copy - not listened yet (record player bust)

The first one? Awesome drone stuff, I recommend it

Is Joey Rodgers not in the middle of the album? Not counting 1st and last tracks (I'm weird)

people hating on the last half of this disc are somehow discounting the awesomeness of "break inside". it might be the most weeknd-style indie r&b jam on the album but it's still pretty sick

is anyone else who likes this having a hard time getting into the com truise record? to me it feels so one-dimensional and wallpapery in comparison

Is it me or does this feel like a very short album? Seems I put it on
And before I know it it's pretty much over. No draggy bits at all.

Com Truise is pretty one dimensional but I like it. Fatter low end than F&P

So instrumental disc on CD release but not Vinyl or Digital download?

that sucks.

com truise is soundtrack music ("wallpapery"), F&L is pop music

yeah i think part of the reason i like com truise & time wharp & milochondria &c &c better than this f+l release is cuz theyre a little more abstract/playful/'about the process' than channel pressure, which aims for pop

i realize what the fundamental differences between the f&l and com truise albums are, one just seems a lot more desireable to me. it's not like channel pressure is routine pop or anything, there are some legit carpenter/moroder-style synth interludes that would probably go down pretty well on the knew age thread among the pop moments. and even the pop songs are surprising and fairly distinct from other stuff in this vein

Com Truise sounds good and all, but Channel Pressure is another level of achievement entirely--songs-wise (I get that this isn't the "point" of Com Truise, but even compositionally speaking), textures-wise, production-wise. I dunno, that sounds like I'm bashing Com Truise when that's not how I mean it; I suppose I don't think there's much else out there at the moment even comparable to Channel Pressure aside from in some very superficial ways (and if there is, I need to hear it!).

F&L album is totally amazing, really summons up a Thomas Dolby circa "Golden Age of Wireless" vibe, and yeah I definitely hear Max Tundra in the vocal phrasing and in the overall intense "smarty pants"/cheeky sense of every musical gesture as one saturated with, to be pretentious, "historicity", i.e. it's not just "dated" but very self-consciously embraced-because-dated. Haven't read that "Retromania" book but this seems dying for application to its thesis. A little bit Prince, a little bit Scritti Politti/Ebn Ozn/Thomas Dolby, some of the same VHS Head/Daft Punk aggression in the chopping/editing syntax, lots of hilarious use of the bender/modwheel abuse. So much fun!

can somebody explain what is up with this "instrumentals disc"?

i have the CD in the lp-style cardboard sleeve and as far as i can tell there is no instrumentals disc in the package

maybe it is a bonus for illegal downloaders?

I've been wondering the same thing.

haha, i guess it is just an internet thing... not sure where they came from tbh (i sure as hell acquired them illegally)

maybe it was a college radio promo type-deal? the only thing that comes up with a google search are college station playlists and mediafire/megaupload/whathaveyou

part of the reason i like com truise & time wharp & milochondria &c &c better than this f+l release is cuz theyre a little more abstract/playful/'about the process' than channel pressure, which aims for pop

haha, I take my hat off to anyone who discards the shallow pleasures of this gluttonously produced catchy pop in favour of the Formalist Fun yr speaking about there.

but then does abstract/playful/'about the process' mean treatment of source material or do you mean it adopts that oblique indie pose rather than pull the same tricks off while gorging on all the treats?

uhm shit, wrong thread, sorry

How is Channel Pressure NOT sooo much 'about the process'?!

that was one of my points. I generally rate lamp's ears though, so maybe that shit is a blast too, I should probably check it out

Com Truise sounds good and all, but Channel Pressure is another level of achievement entirely

This is all a matter of what one's priorities are; I don't necc. subscribe to the whole "more details, more depth is always better thing". sometimes ye just want something simple with fat bass and no dorky vocals.