simon reynolds: classic or dud

hahaha, blackout crew. kudos simey.

xpost. Giggs is a UK rapper http://www.myspace.com/trapstargiggs

imo a very shit UK rapper.

> are any of them hip-hop?

probably not.

> who the fuck is thomp?

this isn't a clubroom

> what the fuck are these records anyway?

vampire weekend - popular preppy rock band. you may have heard of them.

blackout crew - absolutely ridiculous british rappers explaining that all music sounds better when you put a donk on it; you'd loathe it; he's being uh populist

skull disco - bristol dubstep people, vaguely 'intellectual' end of it

ridiculous british rappers otm, you want to put a donk on that mate

put a thomp on that

05- The Backyardigans 'Almost Everything is Boinga'

ROLLING TODDLERPOP 2009 THREAD

i thought this dude was up on juvenile and aaliyah back when all the other rock critics were bangin out to uh beck and portishead

― ladies and gentlemen, mr. biff_tannen (and what), Monday, December 15, 2008 4:34 PM (6 hours ago)

he spent solid time pre-rave deep into the cure and the smiths etc

hes making my enjoyment of 'put a donk on it' being so fukkin stupid a lot less fun -- like i suspect he actually thinks this shit is better than all american rap

nah im sure he likes it as a critique of british pop or something

hmm well -- i think its still pretty lolzy -- i have to take back the implication that 'donk' is fukkin stupid, i actually think its quite smart

jesus christ you are not just overthinking Put A Donk On It, you are overthinking your own entitlement to consider whether it is smart or stupid

get a grip quicksmart (and put a wicked donk on it!)

b-b-b-b--b-b-b-BBASSLINE!

you are overthinking your own entitlement

Nancy Dell'Olio on Newsnight the other night to thread...

Saw his hip hop book in a bookshop in Camden that sells every book for £2, I bought a book about Trojan Records instead because it had a free CD with it. If only Simey had included a free CD with his book.

There was a free CD with the first run of Energy Flash which was arguably better than the book.

i bought the hip hop book for £2 and haven't looked back, though it does include unedited blog posts about 'college dropout' and divers other non-essential items.

Did any grime artists get GS in to do mixtape shoutouts? Missed opportunity imo.

The Wire 300: Simon Reynolds on the Hardcore Continuum #1: Hardcore Rave (1992)

http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/issues/issue105/main/TechnicalEcstasy.jpg

xpost - what bookshop is that?

When British youth first encountered the term Acid House they misconstrued it. In Chicago, acid came from ‘acid burn’, slang for ripping off someone’s idea (by sampling it). But in Britain, it was assumed that ‘acid’ meant psychedelics

that "acid burn" thing was written by a clueless nme or mm journalist in '87 who was having his leg pulled by some chi-town producers.

oh great, reynolds tries to make dance music fit in with tired critical theory memes pt. 94.

titchy -- i've seen it in numerous places, including unsworths on euston road.

that's not really a meme, it's just plain wrong.

i have the book actually (the bring the noise one right?), i just wanted to know where you can get books on trojan for 2 quid!

Simon Reynolds is dead.

Dead serious about dance music.

What a lamestain.

I will not be swingin' on the flippity flop with him anytime soon.

that "acid burn" thing was written by a clueless nme or mm journalist in '87 who was having his leg pulled by some chi-town producers.

And his name was Simon Reynolds?

"I'm Paul Harvey."

Reynolds did correct himself on the acid burn wrongness in Energy Flash to be fair.

from his blissout blog

On February 11 I'm going to be in Liverpool to give a talk on the Hardcore Continuum hosted by FACT (Foundation for Art and Creative Technology), in association with The Wire. There'll be an audio-visual component (expect: rude 'n' cheesy) and the main body of the talk will be followed by an onstage discussion with Mark Fisher (Acting Deputy Editor of The Wire/K-punk) and then a Q/A session with the audience.

Location: FACT, 88 Wood Street, Liverpool, L14DQ
Date: Wednesday February 11th
Time: 7.00pm to 9-00 pm
Admission: £7.00/£5.00 (members & concessions)
Information: tel. 0151 7074444 or http://www.fact.co.uk

i have the book actually (the bring the noise one right?), i just wanted to know where you can get books on trojan for 2 quid!

Camden High Street!

the main body of the talk will be followed by an onstage discussion with Mark Fisher (Acting Deputy Editor of The Wire/K-punk) and then a Q/A session with the audience.

this is gonna make frost/nixon look like a mutual handjob session.

watch out simon! prepared to be tested!

Liverpool, though.

He likes terrible music.

Yeah I wasn't feeling that last Ruff Sqwad mixtape either.

the Giggs love is baffling

I don't think that's fair, I think he's still got it. Did he not set up all the goals against West Brom the other day?

i just knew someone was gonna make that joke

No you don't understand, Ryan Giggs is the name of my dog.

his debunking of some of the tony wilson / factory myths in WORD this month is a right lol. i half agree with him.

so now he's atacking Factory? IS NOTHING SACRED?!

In this Sunday's Observer, Nick Cohen debunks the myths about Grunwick and Lady Falkender.

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1923&Itemid=105

this is getting into jom jones territory tbh.

k-punk undermines himself by dismissing the role of funky and also typically (not so much of him but of "hardcore continuum" boosters generally) completely mischaracterizing it.

Plus a perfect example of my strawman "people will argue that Kode 9 being into funky makes it interesting" complaint.

i don't think he's actually a fan of any of the music he's writing about. it's completely comprehensible to me and i haven't heard hardly any of it -- that's got to be a problem. it just seems like leavis in the 50s, or really one of leavis's hypemen, running out the clock. he seems to be fitting his taste to the model; where does 'i don't like it so it isn't in the tradition' stop and 'it's not in the tradition so i don't like it' start?

neither is a great way to go about listening to music.

i guess the desire for a 'rupture' comes from 1) some kind of notion that this shit has something to do with revolutionary politics 2) the fetishization of 'rupture', change in 'paradigms' or 'epistemes' in various once-fashionable theorists.

but it sounds more than anything like some old lag demanding a 'new punk', on the misguided assumption that there was an 'old punk' that was as savage and beautiful a rupture as one might read about in books.

The thing about the hardcore continuum that makes it completely meaningless to me is what is included in the tradition and what isn't and how arbitrary this inclusion/exclusion is. You could make as big a case for nu-school breaks being part of the continuum as you could for bassline house. But no-one will because it's shit/uncool.

and he does really need to get his head out of his ass boosting bassline house while being down on funky. I'm no stan of the latter and hold it in far less estimation than a lot of people on ILM but damn, bassline is exciting but funky is undercooked?