Beyonce - 4

i just mean that it seems like really heavy-handed reductive caricature of the era rather than, like, a reinvention

I'm really grooving to "Love on Top," which boasts a subtle horn chart.

deej do you like "love on top"?

So Frank Ocean co-wrote "I Care" huh? Can't wait til Tyler jumps on a remix

deej do you like "love on top"?

― The Brainwasher, Friday, June 10, 2011 12:22 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think its good mostly cuz of her performance, less the songwriting/arrangement which is mad retro

tend to lose grip of my sanity during the last minute of 'love on top'

yeah it def builds to an unexpected thing

i mean i think it has to be that way for it to work

only bey is 4real enough to throw in that extra psychotic keychange and she wants you to know that

Yeaaah that keychange is great.

think this album just gets away with 'party' by the skin of its teeth, it's really kind of a feat

more impressive when you consider it's doubtless some bullshit that's been sitting round since the dark days of 2004 and someone had a eureka moment

i may be young
but i'm
READEHHHHHH

Dunno if this is bullshit or not, but..

http://www.musicboxmix.net/2011/06/09/beyonce%E2%80%99s-new-album-%E2%80%9C4%E2%80%B3-pushed-back/

Word is that Columbia has pushed back Beyonce’s album until September, because of the leak, and the Queen “B” is not feeling it at all.

Reportedly, the record label made the decision late Wednesday evening in an emergency meeting. Record executives at Columbia Records felt that a leak of the 3 weeks was too severe and would hurt record sales. Columbia records cancelled all printing orders for the album until further notice.

Also, it looks like Jay Z who is reportedly head of Beyonce’s new management team agrees with the record label but Beyonce does not. Beyonce reportedly called her own emergency meeting in London. Word around Beyonce’s Camp is that Beyonce is now contemplating making an emergency trip back to the states to personally plead her case to Columbia Records.

Sources say that Jay Z wants to pick an entire new set of songs (minus the singles that have already been released). However, Columbia wants Beyonce to redo the entire album over because they feel the other songs Beyonce turned in are too concept edgy and extreme and fear they want play well in America and Beyonce, sources say is worried about making the Grammy’s September deadline.

I mean, the weak hang on the English language the author has doesn't help the story's case.

Also, taking the details of this "report" into consideration, Columbia and Jay-Z had to be completely aware this album would leak. No album escapes a leak until you yourself sit on it until release day (Radiohead). I assume they probably worked the inevitability into their release plans. Now, if they're REALLY considering pushing it back, it's because of how the singles have underperformed.

yeah, i'll wait for something more concrete than musicboxmix.net's sources

i cant imagine 1+1 underperforming tbh

Most of this is really good, but "Countdown" is almost like a parody of Beyonce.

But, yes, the B2M snatch is a nice surprise.

tend to lose grip of my sanity during the last minute of 'love on top'

the key change!

but it actually ends too soon, like about half a minute too soon

You mean, the key change(s)!

(I know it's not fair to compare anything to "Golden Lady" and "Summer Soft," which are the gold standard for this end-of-song progressive key changes thing, but the seams kinda show on "Love On Top.")

Yeah there are like five key changes, it's so ridiculously unabashed in its sense of piling icing upon icing upon icing.

I think Countdown is phenomenal, the brass is superhero theme worthy.

"Countdown" is def the song that sounds most typically like "a Beyonce song", but nothing wrong with that imo.

Meh, I've just never been moved much by the Creole marching band stuff.

Also, taking the details of this "report" into consideration, Columbia and Jay-Z had to be completely aware this album would leak. No album escapes a leak until you yourself sit on it until release day (Radiohead). I assume they probably worked the inevitability into their release plans. Now, if they're REALLY considering pushing it back, it's because of how the singles have underperformed.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, June 9, 2011 11:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

3 weeks IS a pretty early leak, though, name the last major album that leaked well over 2 weeks before the release date and i'm sure that resulted in a lot of handwringing too

"1 + 1" isn't actually getting a single push, is it? afaict it's just a song that was released in between the first two singles ("Run The World" and "Best Thing I Never Had")

She performed out live on network tv. I'd be shocked if it wasn't a single

*it

Graduation? xxp

kl0pper was pleased 12 days before Graduation's release date

Dang

The "swagu" crap in "Party" is soooooo lame. stfu Kanye.

Yeah, the track could do without that in fairness

"swag surfin'" and "swag splash" already gave swag unpleasant fluid associations for me, now kanye's "swag goo" has immortalized swag as a synonym for ejaculate

can we inundate ASCAP with letters asking them to revoke Kanye's publishing royalties for it?

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmhx3joLQH1qgov1ko1_500.jpg

obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITelIN1piYQ

yeah, ^^^ was the immediate association in my head

I don't really have any problem with Kanye's bit. If it was random producer dude #22, rather than THE KANYE WEST, no one would give a fuck. Song is a fun jam anyway.

yeah i had "party" in my head all day and i think it's entirely by virtue of beyonce's phrasing?

cause tonight's the night!—uh-uh-oh-oh—that i give you everything/music knocking till the morning light!

and then of course andre

Yeah, I don't usually think of Beyonce as having great phrasing, but her phrasing all over this album is pretty good.

people would TOTALLY make fun of anyone else going "you dripping swag goo" at the beginning of the song, it's just a little extra rmde and very much in character that it's kanye

it's "swagu"!!

apex of an unpleasant bit of slang; glad it has reached apogee and may now subside into "bling" and "i'd hit that" status

McDonald's new Swag Supreme

lol yea 'swag goo' nvr even occurred 2 me & i wish i could unread that

I can't get over how lazy that Kanye verse is on what will be one of the two biggest pop releases of the year. The song itself is merely underwhelming but Kanye actually manages to tip it over into being actually terrible.

I don't really hear it as a verse. Just a little intro.

lol yea 'swag goo' nvr even occurred 2 me & i wish i could unread that

― johnny crunch, Saturday, June 11, 2011 11:57 AM Bookmark

same here

I can't get over how lazy that Kanye verse is on what will be one of the two biggest pop releases of the year. The song itself is merely underwhelming but Kanye actually manages to tip it over into being actually terrible.

― Matt DC, Saturday, June 11, 2011 2:57 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think you're looking for the katy perry thread

I don't like it but it's hardly a "verse"

ha J0rdan otm