(tie w/ #48) 47. Eminem ft. Dido - Stan [7 votes, 201 points, 2000]
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― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Did not expect that
― Number None, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
turd
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
re gza album - prob my fav method verses are on that album tbh
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
stan actually a decent song but meh
― brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Stan above 'just don't give a fuck' or 'kill you' or 'criminal'. Really?
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
I know egotism is an essential part of rap, but the biggest reason I never really cared about Eminem is that all his songs (or at least the singles I've heard) seem to be about him as a celebrity. And the woes and worries of a celebrity are basically the most boring lyrical subject matter in pop music: who the hell can identify to that, except other celebrities?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Aside from the continuation of the storyline in "Kim", the best thing about "Stan" is the production touches, from the scribbling pencil sounds to the screaming and thumping in the trunk. It's really amazing to me that this was a huge mainstream single.
"Kim" is a much better song, though; real horror movie vibes from that and the student-made video for it Youtube is kind of amazing.
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
xp: Tuomas, you should track down "Kim". I'm certain you will despise it.
Stan is great but I'd never think to vote for it. Em is like Kanye - he mnay have been classic once upon a time but having to put up with them in 2011 is enough to put me off ever going back to those records
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
^yeah, I voted for one song from both Kanye & Em, and I think in both cases it was the one that p much never had a chance to place...
but I gave a lot of points to the Em song
― brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link
xp Voted Gold instead of 4th Chamber. No strategy, as per.
I voted for Stan because it's just a great piece of storytelling. The narrative side of rap isn't particularly well-represented on the poll so far. Plus it involves Eminem displaying empathy for someone other than himself, which is a small miracle. Placed it near the bottom of my list though, for the reasons a hoy hoy said. It's not like the song's got any weaker but Eminem's whole thing is so wearying now.
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, June 9, 2011 10:06 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
― 51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Loving the images, good work guys, and thanks Matt DC for the Spotify playlist, will be listening as the countdown continues...
― Neil S, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I gave Stan some points because it was a huge hit (which deserves recognition in itself) despite being pretty horrific (nice blend of sweetness and horror, or great storytelling you could say), and because it's great. I wish Dido had never made it big though, hearing it forever announced as by 'Eminem & Dido' from about six months afterwards was most annoying.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Dido way more tolerable than a lot of pop stars
― brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I agree, but in general Rollo > Dido
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
if there were no em on this list or, like, "my name is" in the bottom 50 I'd be fine but I kinda expect him to be all over the top 50 so w/e
― no serenade no fire brigade just a trypophobia (Edward III), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah now we're getting an idea where the LOL is coming from
― brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
the next track isn't on youtube but i presume you all own a copy anyway and if you don't fuck you
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Dido might be alright I don't know, she's barely reachedmy consciousness except via Stan - I just took huge exception to once seeing a Daily Mail feature about her succeeding against the odds in the working-class-dominated music business.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
stan is dope
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Wasn't Dido's song a hit before it was sampled on Stan? I certainly remember hearing it before the Eminem version came out.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
46. The Funky 4 + 1 - That's The Joint [7 votes, 203 points, 1981]
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― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Now we're talking!
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link
only in Scandinavia Tuomas xxp
― brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Yay! My #12, highest of mine to place so far other than 'World Is Yours'.
xp iirc Dido made it big in the US before the UK, so I certainly had the impression of her getting big off the back of Stan (against all the odds, etc.)
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link
raising my hopes that Positive K might show up after all
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
The dido song was not even released before stan iirc
I'm pretty sure my memory is right re in da club; I know for certain I hadn't heard it anywhere prior to the leak. Wanksta was the lead single
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Dido song was out two years before Stan though not a single (or indeed widely heard) till afterwards.
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
The Funky 4 + 1 - That's The Joint...
...has never been improved upon.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
"Wanksta" was a single off the 8 Mile soundtrack, only on GRODT as a bonus track; "In Da Club" was the lead single that preceded the album
― 51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry Tuomas, for some reason I thought Dido was Norwegian or something...? I wasn't trying to be snarky @ you
my experience in the States was that nobody I knew had heard of Dido until Stan iirc; in fact I don't think even after the breakthrough that Thank You was her first Stateside single; wasn't it second or third? Was White Flag first?
― brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd like to speak for most of us when i say WHO THE FUCK CARES
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
oh that was towards 50 cent discussion.
em heard a demo, sampled it. she got signed from it. thank you was the third single from her first album. white flag was the first single from her second album. i don't even like her and i can remember this shit - i wonder what was pushed out for that to stay there.
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
8 mile soundtrack came out months after grodt. Wasn't the wanksta video out ahead of grodt?
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I believe so (irt Wanksta)
― brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually, IIRC Thank You was used as a theme in some tv series that became really popular in here, and that's why it was well known before Stan.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
8 Mile was the year before GRoDT.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"Dear Dido, I know you probably hear this everyday but I'm your biggest fan. I even got the underground shit that you did on the Sliding Doors soundtrack. Anyways, I hope you get this, hit me back,just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan. This is a hoy hoy."
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_discography
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Aw jeez I've got 'Thank You' on a loop in my head now (not even the bit in Stan either) - really not what I was hoping for from this poll tbh.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
oh my bad i don't remember it properly sorry i have shamed you ilx
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
"stan" is a really great song in its own right and the fact that he attempted and pulled of a song like that (thematically, in terms of point of view, etc) at the time he was becoming enormous is really remarkable imo - who else has made a move like that since? plus that thing is like 7 minutes long and it was all over the radio!
― positive rapper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
45. Kurtis Blow - The Breaks [8 votes, 212 points, 1980]
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― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
More funky four plus one chat, less of these guys please. Did you know the Funky Four Jazzy Jeff isn't *that* Jazzy Jeff?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
that dido album had decent success in the US prior to "stan", singles were on the radio, my wife had a copy, it got rereleased after em sampled and it had a second life
if only there were somewhere on the internet where we could get information on this
Cheeky Records, to which Dido was signed, was sold to BMG records in 1999. This delayed the release of No Angel in the United Kingdom, but also allowed her to concentrate on promoting the album No Angel in the United States, including a slot on Sarah McLachlan's Lilith Fair tour. Through touring, both before and after the album was available, Dido's music began to receive more exposure. The first official single chosen by Dido and her label, "Here with Me", was used as the theme music for the television programme Roswell. Arguably it was this, as well as the airplay on MTV throughout Europe of the single's video, which brought her mass attention.
In 1998, the music producer for the film Sliding Doors picked her track "Thank You" for the soundtrack. No Angel was first released in 1999, and Dido toured extensively to promote the record.
Eminem helped introduce Dido to the US audience in 2000 when he sampled the first verse of "Thank You" in his UK number-one single "Stan", after seeking permission from Dido herself; she also appeared in the music video as Stan's long-suffering girlfriend.
― no serenade no fire brigade just a trypophobia (Edward III), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Aw jeez I've got 'Thank You' on a loop in my head now (not even the bit in Stan either)
ha ha otm
He robs a pregnant lady at gun point and then has a shoot out with a cop?
pfft, Ice-T and Schooly D were shooting at cops ten years before, and You Can't Fade Me is at least 100x more :0 than genially bragging about robbing ppl
― all cats are gay (sic), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Kurtis Blow! Another classic. Well done ILM.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link