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I'm expecting this to have a lot of commonalities with the Valerie label roster (eg. Anoraak) - the Games EP sure did.

It's more, I dunno, home listening than the Valerie artists I've heard. Far more interesting production touches too.

My pleasure, Dog Latin, and I'm in total agreement on its immersive character... And Channel Pressure is SO GOOD, you guys. There are so many little surprises and delicious textures and squiggles and secret wormholes in the production; I've never heard anything quite like it. Something about the record reminds me, weirdly, of Paul's Boutique, but instead of spot-the-sample it's a game of spot-the-reference... There's one riff in "Joey Rogers" that's almost a direct quote of that crazy fucking robot-guitar finger-tapping-sounding thing just before the chorus in Yes's "Owner of a Lonely Heart"--but it's subtle. These guys have internalized this stuff so much that it doesn't sound like pastiche or overly reverential mimicry or anything; it's not "hey look at us we sound like '80s Yes and Thomas Dolby LOL"--their ids leak the shit.

I'm going to hold back on the effusive praise for this until I'm convinced it has the tunes and/or depth to hold my interest after the initial novelty wears off.

I hear you... I've personally had something or other from this record in my head nearly constantly since I started listening to it. "World of Regret" is there currently...

any reason to pick this up on vinyl?

(apart from retro fetishism that is)

I just like the way stuff sounds on vinyl. I have a decent setup and the bass is much richer and deeper on vinyl for me, plus everything is just a little more "present"... I'd wager that a lot of the stuff they're referencing was actually initially purchased mainly on cassette!

Comes with a download coupon too FWIW

i didnt get a coupon this is bs

so i really like this but ... is there anything that sounds like this *without* the vocals? because i don't really care for the voice.

the "instrumental" versions sorta remind me of cylob (ambient news), though more superficially 'fat'-sounding.. i suppose the compressed thump of it recalls chris clark (but clean), or jackson and his computer band

did the version you have not come with instrumentals moonship? they're out there for most of the songs on the album with vocals

are the instrumentals a separate disc or part of the CD?

i was thinking more like similar artists ... i really like the sound design and the effects they use

Hmmm... not really the same thing but you could do worse than check out the last album by Tipper (best sound design I think I've ever heard on an album tbh) and Console's "Herself" (which I've banged on about a few times here).

What's the beef with the vocals? I guess I can see them maybe coming across a little mannered/stylized, but they stop well short of fey for me (unlike certain other high-voiced guys singing over electronic music)... Plus it's hard to imagine the songs working nearly as well without the vocal hooks.

Com Truise

gave it a second listen in the car last night, the album sounded much less psychedelic and trippy and the vocals were much easier to deal with. i think i forget sometimes that my home system is absurdly bright and that sometimes makes certain recordings tough to deal with

good looking out blank

Oh man, I bet this is a great driving album... There are times I miss driving so much, and it's usually when there's something I want to listen to while doing it. I hear you re: a non-ideal setup bringing out stuff in recordings in a bad way--happens to me with my computer speakers a lot.

miss my B&Ws so much now that I've moved in with gf :-(

I miss listening to music now I've moved in with my gf :-(

yeah that too actually

i have electrostatic ribbon speakers which are super-bright to begin with ... in a room with bare wood floor, facing painted drywall at a distance of about 8 feet. the first half of the album was unbearably bright, the second half deeply trippy in a flying lotus way.

i hear all of the "french touch" references on the thread

i did a quickie interview with Joel Ford for the show tonight.

They're playing TONIGHT? In Brooklyn? Man, my day just got a lot better...

at the Mercury Lounge in LES.

I thought it was at 285 Kent: http://www.villagevoice.com/events/turrbotax-presents-ford-and-lopatin-jacques-greene-autre-ne-veut-2612868/

Okay, so people keep talking about Scritti Politti and I'm intrigued. What kind of stuff are they channeling? Any recommendations?

the title track does remind me of the remix of 'Absolute' a lot so start with Cupid & Psyche 85

good show -- early 90s vibes strong. much more build-and-release dance than concise pop live. however it was one of the hottest shows i have ever been in and i felt like i was going to die so i spent a portion of it listening from outside

dj spinning underground resistance afterward, nice

:-D

cupid & psyche 85 has a lot more BIG SCARE QUOTES soul than this

"emergency room" i think is the closest it gets to scritti

Listening now to Cupid & Psyche 85 and yeah, I can hear it absolutely. It's a lovely record though. Like it a lot and I went to Discogs just now and got a good value vinyl copy coming to me.

Oh yeah the Absolute version / remix

Agreed re: "Emergency Room" being the Scrittiest... The super-playful production on "Hypnotize" reminds me a lot of moments on Channel Pressure. Cupid & Psyche 85 is SUCH a great record.

Also re: vocals - surely I can hear the guy from Autre Ne Veut on a couple of these tunes, right?

iirc yep

My girlfriend and I went record shopping today, and she put in some serious time dumpster-diving in the dollar bin... She turned up Riptide by Robert Palmer, and I have to say, "Joey Rogers" also owes a lot to "I Didn't Mean to Turn You On"--an amazing song. I feel like everything '80s I've been listening to since I got Channel Pressure I'm hearing through its prismatic and dizzying references.

My bit about the live gig from the other week:
http://thequietus.com/articles/06413-ford-lopitan-live-review

Ive a feeling all the scritti politti comparisons stem from the wire review. I dont really hear it myself

for me it was "the singing really reminds me of someone" and when someone suggested Gartside it was a bit of a kick m/s moment.

I definitely hear in Emergency Room, but not too much in the rest. Haven't read the Wire review.

This record is fucking ace btw.

Ive a feeling all the scritti politti comparisons stem from the wire review

just seemed pretty obvious from the title track imo

Otm

Have you guys heard the slowed-down "echo jam" version of the Scritti song on the Games "Heaven Can Wait" mixtape?

Dog Latin, thought you were overly positive about that gig, I was really bummed out by it. it just felt that neither of them got into the groove at all and the minute the crowd began feeling it, then they stopped and started again.

and after the minimum time they could play for, they legged it....

been trying to understand why this was so different from the gig at the Ether festival, and I can only guess that the layout of the Shackleton means everyone stays in the pub area and only fills the venue as the band come on, which means the crowd are not warmed up and the no one can gauge the crowd till the band come on.

I liked the gig but found myself apologizing to friends I had brought along for a hit and miss 30 min set.

This sounds unbearably bright to me as well, I associate that strain of production with particularly hamfisted frankendance BUT I assume Lopatin knows what he's doing here. But to me it just sounds fucking horrible and flattens out any textural interest that might be there.

Hamildan, yes I agree it wasn't exactly the most enthralling thing I'd ever seen and I think I mentioned it was waaaay too short, plus a bit arms-across-chest. The subheading on that article makes it out to be more positive than I felt. Their set at primavera was kind of similar and I was surprised at the lack of snare.