**the-dream terry nash love king the-poll**

The-Weaknd

FILA would be my second choice, only bcuz it's hard for me to separate that middle suite

Dude to me last night: "I know what you're getting at with that kinda R&B, but for the intensity of its darkness and atmosphere I still prefer The Weeknd."

what he means is he would prefer a PUNCH IN THE FACE

i still don't get the love for "turnt out" but then i'm just not a fan of terius' falsetto

i just think it's a great song, the falsetto is almost irrelevant

if "yamaha" wasn't in the running for best-song-ever and kind of a boring choice but still the right one here, i would vote either "sex intelligent" or "florida university"

it's entirely sung in falsetto, how could that possibly be irrelevant?!

if "yamaha" wasn't in the running for best-song-ever and kind of a boring choice but still the right one here, i would vote either "sex intelligent" or "florida university" "abyss" or "f.i.l.a"

xp well i like that in the context of the album that "turn out" feels really frivolous -- i don't think that if terius sung it in his 'normal' voice that it would feel any less so -- i understand how his falsetto might put someone off but as someone who likes the song, it's also irrelevant in the sense that my enjoyment would not be affected by a change in his voice

How is everyone ignoring the majesty that is Veteran? It's like the best R. Kelly song Terius has ever written. Double good once Kells jumps on the remix.

really i think there's an argument for "sex intelligent (remix)" and "nikki part 2" really encapsulating why i love this album - they're certainly not good songcraft in the traditional sense and they don't even make all that much sense if you isolate them, so i guess you could say they're evidence of LK's weakness, but the gaseous production and the way the lyrics take in all of terius' most dreamish characteristics make them totally essential to the album

I like "Yamaha" but have never gotten the cult of it.

make up bag

but yeah actually turnt out

I like "Yamaha" but have never gotten the cult of it.

― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, June 4, 2011 3:14 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

Like...I totally understand the "Fancy" cult!

i never really listen to this all the way through because of the abyss/panties to the side roadblock :/

"Abyss" is so fucking awesome. Like 50 "Nikki"s at once.

"abyss" is really self-conscious about how it goes for the ~epic~ feel but succeeds despite that - i think that's the reason it's not the absolute top tier of this album though

am i the only person who absolutely adores "florida university"?

the block i usually skip is panties to the side/turnt out/february love (latter two not actively bad but i don't really NEED to listen to them ever)

I don't like Yamaha at all, I don't want to hear him doing songs like that really, it's not why I listen to The Dream. I genuinely skip Yamaha if it ever comes on during shuffle or whatever, I actively dislike it. Anyone feel me on this??? (Didn't think so)

I think Make Up Bag might be my favourite track on this...I love the Sex Intelligents and All Black Everything too. I fucking love this album though generally, two or three duds but easily my most listened to record.

I voted for "Sex Intelligent (Remix)" to avoid a possible "Yamaha" sweep.

Also: LVM represents more a triumph of production than this one.

that's because LVM had 2 expert producers on every track and Love King mostly has Nash doing his best impression of them

TURNT OUT

― b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, June 4, 2011 12:56 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nu isleys kinda jam

I genuinely skip Yamaha if it ever comes on during shuffle or whatever, I actively dislike it. Anyone feel me on this??? (Didn't think so)

I'm not that much of a contrarian but I always want to press skip after about a minute of yamaha

that's because LVM had 2 expert producers on every track and Love King mostly has Nash doing his best impression of them

and compensating with improved songwriting imo

Voted for FILA but it was close between that an Turnt Out (especially for the "my bad i meant to say baby baby" bit). I know it has its detractors but i also love Florida University. So fun to sing along to + it was the song i used to get a couple of Dream sceptical friends into him.

how can one have improved songwriting that doesn't result in improved songs

I meant on LK.

right i think al's question still stands

"1+1"

LVM = good production, bleh songs
LK = great songs

really i think there's an argument for "sex intelligent (remix)" and "nikki part 2" really encapsulating why i love this album - they're certainly not good songcraft in the traditional sense and they don't even make all that much sense if you isolate them, so i guess you could say they're evidence of LK's weakness, but the gaseous production and the way the lyrics take in all of terius' most dreamish characteristics make them totally essential to the album

― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, June 4, 2011 12:05 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

OTM, that's why i voted for the "sex intelligent" remix. love the way it strips terius' sound to its most otherworldly essentials, just glossy pillow talk and cosmic drift. doesn't matter at all to me that it's not the album's strongest piece of songwriting, the atmosphere is incredible.

LVM = good production, bleh songs
LK = great songs

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, June 4, 2011 10:00 AM (2 minutes ago)

http://i45.tinypic.com/2j2ia69.jpg

but really the answer is "FILA" - "turnt out" and "yamaha" are also up to par with his best work but fuck the rest more or less

OTM, that's why i voted for the "sex intelligent" remix. love the way it strips terius' sound to its most otherworldly essentials, just glossy pillow talk and cosmic drift. doesn't matter at all to me that it's not the album's strongest piece of songwriting, the atmosphere is incredible.

Agreed, although I'd argue it is a good example of songwriting -- a second stab at the song that improves on the original.

how can you fuck the sex intelligents ;_;

well this is a guy who burbles "shawty" every other word

man there are some bad songs on this - "make up bag"? "nikki pt 2", "abyss", "panties to the side"? "february love"? who ever even wants to listen to these songs?

let's not even go near "take care of me"

xp lex the sex intelligents are ok, i really don't like the vocals on the first but both are kinda lazily written. i do prefer the remix tho

am i the only person who absolutely adores "florida university"?

― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, June 4, 2011 12:23 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

no! i love that song to death, mentioned it a couple times in the main love king thread and don't know why i didn't highlight here. it's certainly better than "yamaha", my afterthought candidate. funny, it's almost the opposite of the "sex intelligent" remix, in that it gets by on traditional songwriting and storytelling, bears hardly a trace of the dark, dreamy atmosphere that characterizes other album highlights. get the feeling that most here see it as a throwaway track.

which it is, but still...

the first like 30 seconds of "nikki pt 2" are great actually, especially on the heels of "yamaha" (jaymc otm) - what was he thinking with that hook though - and then to repeat it after the second verse? ugh

abyss is great k3v u are crazy

there is nothing wrong with "nikki part two" u r insane

nicki pt 2 -> abyss is my fav part of the album

abyss is being slept on itt

"Abyss" is so fucking awesome. Like 50 "Nikki"s at once.

― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, June 4, 2011 3:22 AM (6 hours ago)

yeah i've always wondered what "nikki" would sound like without a tune and if dream sang it like he just rolled out of bed

"abyss" is gorgeous and has a tune

yeah wow the end of "yamaha" --> up to just before the hook on "nikki pt 2" is incredible

i mean i'm not just realizing this now but it's been a few months

if only the sun would come and help dry the water away <3

the-dream lines like that are so close to the lonely island's "i just had sex"

Basically anything where the-dream sounds like a kid opening Christmas presents is good IMO.

lol

yeah it is pretty funny. i said if i thought about it or decided to try and find things i was put off by. i find the "make up bag" funny too though, like he's imparting this sage advice to all the men, "i'm such a genius no girl has ever realised my amazing ploy."

*the "make up bag" lyrics

yeah i feel you -- i already explained itt and in another one why "make up bag" touched a nerve with me personally and i'm not really telling anyone else what to think about it

have this same conflict re Make Up Bag in particular - love the sound, hate the sentiment (don't give a fuck about its technical quality as a song), will always delight and frustrate in equal measure. same goes for the title track (dope piano chords and self harmonies, awful shit like "sorry ladies but there ain't nothing like a smart bitch"). but it's 'in character' etc. and maybe prince wrote something just as bad one time and i've just not noticed.

could care less about the sentiment and just think it sounds like ass

^new board description

didn't we already use that one

The panning drums on the title track are really doing it for me today. Still his third-best album but I feel like since it came out I've forgotten how enjoyable minor Terius is.

insane that 'sorry' got zero votes

also dream is the only artist to constantly get away with using the millennial whoop

TURNT OUT

― b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, June 4, 2011 1:56 AM (eleven years ago)

Probably the album I've played the most since it dropped.