yeah i'll still think it placed in the top ten and go ape shit.
― Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:49 (fifteen years ago)
"Me & Jesus the Pimp" probably the best written rap song of all time, or close second to "Fats Cats and Bigga Fish"
― President Keyes, Friday, 3 June 2011 19:52 (fifteen years ago)
Whiney whines from beyond teh grave
― thistle supporter (mcoll), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:52 (fifteen years ago)
what else is new.
― Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:54 (fifteen years ago)
1. Shanté - The Bitch Is Back [1 vote, 1,000,000 points, 1992]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/The_Bitch_is_Back.jpg
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 3 June 2011 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
Jungle Brothers - J. Beez Wit the Remedy 3 76
^^^big ups whoever else voted for this
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, June 3, 2011 2:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
sup!
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:18 (fifteen years ago)
kinda glad hoy did albums first -- feel like the tracks poll is gonna feel way more laid back and fun by comparison
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:25 (fifteen years ago)
are people cool w/ tuesday-friday again next week? i've got to work sunday but i've got the rest of the week off, so i figure monday for that horrible task of tallying.
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:38 (fifteen years ago)
T-F sounds great.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 June 2011 20:38 (fifteen years ago)
yeah whatever works for you is fine by me
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:39 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, 4 days is better than 5. tho i'll be on vacation next week so you may not get the benefit of my whining
― President Keyes, Friday, 3 June 2011 20:43 (fifteen years ago)
Final 50-1 playlist - quite a few missing but still 700+ tracks worth
http://open.spotify.com/user/onimo/playlist/5tbEzPPYonijZURIGjZcfm
― reverse the jelly baby of the neutron flow (onimo), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
and 100-51
http://open.spotify.com/user/onimo/playlist/6wBgdIntW7HS5LN5LsQokj
― reverse the jelly baby of the neutron flow (onimo), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
Divine Styler - Spiral Walls Containing Autumns of Light 1 1The Brotherhood - Elementalz 1 1
AKA the Tuomas vote
I did actually vote for Elementalz (the best straight British rap album I've ever heard), but Spiral Walls is way too rock for me to ever rate it. Divine Styler's Wordpower 2 was my #16 though, as far as dystopian synthetic sci-fi rap goes, that one is almost as good as Can Ox.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 June 2011 21:32 (fifteen years ago)
Might as well post my full ballot:
ILM rap music album poll: post your ballot
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 June 2011 21:39 (fifteen years ago)
says the guy who doesn't care for the chronic or ready to die
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:46 (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
so ilxor can understand
fwiw while I don't have any use for the chronic or ready to die I'm not really complaining about their being on this list. anyone who follows hip hop knows these are canonical works that had a massive impact, are beloved by many, and have been referenced/copied/paid homage to countless times. it's all the other small potatoes bullshit on this list that annoys me more tbh.
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 June 2011 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
Great work A hoy hoy. You are an 'energy magnet, human conductor, rap maniac and female seducter' as Tunes so rightly pointed out.
― PG Harpy (Doran), Friday, 3 June 2011 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
Awesome work and entertainment A hoy hoy!
Funny that I'm the only vote for Long Live the Kane given all the love. I'll put it on right now in the air conditioning!
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 3 June 2011 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
It's A Big Daddy Thing did better, only 11 spots from making the list
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Friday, 3 June 2011 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
I love Paul's Boutique, it was my #10, but it's pretty ridiculous that it got more #1 votes than anything else!
― The dad guitar, or "bass" in muso terms (Whitey on the Moon), Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
yeah that was pretty smh
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:13 (fifteen years ago)
My lonely votes:
212. Warren G – Regulate…G Funk Era 1 37 (for shame!)218. Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030 1 34260. Lil Wayne - Da Drought 3 1 25290. The Coup - Pick a Bigger Weapon 1 24294. Gucci Mane – Mr. Zone 6 1 23295. J Stalin - Prenuptial Agreement 1 22301. Big KRIT - KRIT Wuz Here 1 21306. The Jacka and Laroo - Neva Be the Same 1 20307. Curren$y - Pilot Talk II 1 19 (LOL my 2010 block!)341. Brotha Lynch Hung - Season of da Siccness 1 6
― The dad guitar, or "bass" in muso terms (Whitey on the Moon), Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:20 (fifteen years ago)
that's a lot of records from the last couple years
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:52 (fifteen years ago)
295. J Stalin - Prenuptial Agreement 1 22301. Big KRIT - KRIT Wuz Here 1 21306. The Jacka and Laroo - Neva Be the Same 1 20307. Curren$y - Pilot Talk II 1 19 (LOL my 2010 block!)
deej block lol
― lebroner (D-40), Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:56 (fifteen years ago)
you picked the wrong gucci tho haw
I voted for long lived the kane, at least I think I did
― brodie to the max (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 June 2011 01:06 (fifteen years ago)
the top 100, broken down by year:
1984 - 1 album, 141 points1985 - 1 album, 125 points1986 - 2 albums, 410 points1987 - 2 albums, 632 points1988 - 6 albums, 1287 points1989 - 4 albums, 2351 points1990 - 6 albums, 1788 points1991 - 9 albums, 2169 points1992 - 4 albums, 1281 points1993 - 6 albums, 2304 points1994 - 6 albums, 2513 points1995 - 6 albums, 2326 points1996 - 9 albums, 2344 points1997 - 3 albums, 611 points1998 - 6 albums, 1495 points1999 - 5 albums, 761 points2000 - 5 albums, 1013 points2001 - 3 albums, 914 points2002 - 3 albums, 458 points2003 - 2 albums, 336 points2004 - 3 albums, 750 points2005 - 2 albums, 266 points2006 - 4 albums, 783 points2007 - 1 album, 109 points2008 - 0 albums, 0 points2009 - 1 album, 164 points
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:10 (fifteen years ago)
like every collaborative list the best stuff is in the back end. Rap even more, since most of the proper canon stuff does very little for me
anyway, my favourite rap record is Da Drought 3
― merked, Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:12 (fifteen years ago)
i'd merk you but i see i'm too late
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:18 (fifteen years ago)
ty a hoy hoy, this was awesome! ftr i believe everyone has the right to vote, even people who listen to anticon
― you're nobody til somebody SBs you (symsymsym), Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:29 (fifteen years ago)
i know, life isn't fair.
― elan, Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:48 (fifteen years ago)
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) 28 (1) 956 dope record, classic for all time, not as good as cuban linx or illmatic tho imo, never mind a few othersNas - Illmatic 24 (3) 901 surprised it aint number one although it would be only a slightly less boring pick then 36Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique 22 (4) 865 wtf is this doing up so high. gtfoPublic Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back 21 (3) 787 sure, not my top 5 but its def deserving of its spot on any list like thisThe Notorious B.I.G. – Ready to Die 21 749 not as good as life after death, there are 1-2 whatever joints on this. that jam that samples '7th heaven' is whateverRaekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 21 (2) 737 probably the best record mentioned so farDr. Dre - The Chronic 19 591 beyond classic, an inconsistent record w/ a huge impact, much like paid in full. production sound here is half nu-dre and half NWA dre. best joints are the singles + 'deez nuts'Outkast - Aquemini 19 581 this is where spottie ottie & i diverge for once, i think this is >>> atliens but that might be bcuz i was a late pass on outkast & just got into them w/ rosa parks \oO/ but i prefer this perfect midpt between southern rap perfection of atliens & pop perfection of the best parts of stankoniaDe La Soul - Three Feet High and Rising 18 (1) 580 overrated as hell, the worst of the first three De La recordsGZA/Genius – Liquid Swords 19 559 overrated as hell, still classic but should be outside the top 20-30 imoA Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory 16 (1) 544 classic, fine w/ this placement, maybe a bit higher. Jay-Z – Reasonable Doubt 16 510 overrated slightly, def not the best jay albumPublic Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet 13 489 havent listened to this in a minute but i never connected w/ public enemy like thata tribe called quest - midnight marauders 13 (1) 473 ok w/ this placement. i prefer LETEric B and Rakim - Paid in Full 18 473 this is def not the best Eric B & Rakim in terms of front-> back quality; let the rhythm hit em str8 murders it on consistency. this was the point of impact though. like 'follow the leader,' a few of the best rap songs ever made, a bunch of ehhhIce cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted 15 457 i havent listened to amerikkkas most & death cert in a minute, i should pull those out again. if its + the kill at will EP, as was issued on CD, then I'm down w/ this ahead of DCMobb Deep - The Infamous 14 (1) 457 duh all time classic & probably the first record that should be really higher imoJay-Z - The Blueprint 17 427 overrated. outside the top 50 imo. really dug it when it came out but that was mostly for a fresh production sound that has since been run into the groundIce Cube - Death Certificate 13 (1) 404 fine placementSnoop Dogg - Doggystyle 15 389 should be higher. one of the best party records of any genre, all timeNWA - Straight Outta Compton 15 (1) 370 dope LP obv, no problem w/ placement. best songs are incredibleoutkast – atliens 10 368 im cool w thisOutkast - Stankonia 13 344 this is a bit high but still a great recordPharcyde - Bizarre Ride II... 13 323 there are 5-6 songs here that i love & have since i was like 10. i think its slightly overrated on this poll, but its a fun-ass record so im not complaining too muchGravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep / Niggamortis 10 317 never really got into this for some reason. too cartoonyCannibal Ox – The Cold Vein 10 312 lol. this would be a cooler record w/ me if it wasn't ranked ahead of, like, all Scarface, Tupac, DJ Quik, Mac Dre, E-40, ETC ETC ETC.)Digital Underground - Sex Packets 10 310 DOPE casette, CD version overrated here. If you include the 12" of 'freaks of the industry' w/ the full love hangover sample it gets +1 pt from mekanye west - college dropout 10 289 overrated but still pretty classic. kanyes workout plan went from my favorite to least favorite song on this once it became a singleClipse - Hell Hath No Fury 12 284 gtfo x 10000De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead 10 276 dope ass record, prob a bit underratedUGK – Ridin’ Dirty 7 272 dope record, i prefer super tightGhostface Killah - Supreme Clientele 11 263 dope record, glad it beat that fishscale bsGang Starr – Moment of Truth 7 (1) 262 great record but hard to earn should be well ahead of it, cant believe that didnt even finish. kids today smhRun DMC - Raisin' Hell 9 259 this record is aite, nothing really tops peter piper. I think 'rock box' & 'beats to the rhyme' are better than anything on thisWu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever 8 253 cool LP but being way overrated here cmonLL Cool J – Mama Said Knock You Out 8 (1) 249 i need to listen to dudes catalog again to decide where id land on this but im w/ dan that 'around the way girl' is the best single off thisDJ Shadow - Endtroducing 8 247 gtfo x1000Ghostface Killah - Pretty Toney 9 245 dope record, probably a bit overrated being in this list but I do like it a whole bunchBeastie Boys - Check Your Head 8 239 gtfo x100EPMD - Strictly Business 10 230 dopeDe La Soul – Bahlo-o-ne Mindstate 9 225 dope2Pac - All Eyez on Me 8 224 should be much higher imo & me against the world should have made itDizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner 9 222 gtfo x1000The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death 9 (1) 217 should be higher imoMadvillain - Madvillainy 11 216 love this record. i should be mad at its placement which feels too high but i think heads underrate it as much as onion av club nerds overrated itDe La Soul - Stakes Is High 4 213 this is p overrated here but it is a good record. not top 100 materialMethod Man - Tical 8 208 mad overrated. everything 1st wave wu does not belong & outside the singles (i do rep for 'release yo delf' & in fact have the 12") its pretty weak. meth vs chef is cool tho. ironman should be higherdr. dre - 2001 8 207 should be higher imo, changed the gameslick rick - great adventures of slick rick 9 207 should be much, much, much higher, like top tenODB - Return to the 36 Chambers 9 206 this is a cool LP but we dont really need two solo ODB records in the top 100 & whens the last time you listened to this all the way through? i like the 2nd one betterJeru The damaja - The Sun Rises In The East 8 204 i have sentimental attachment to this from my days w/out being able to grow facial hair / rocking the discman / lumpy hoodie & baggy jeans combo but really despite some hot beats its kinda overrated here. I would drop it down quite a few places & make room for, like, Word...Life or a lord finesse record or somethingDr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst 7 (1) 203 overrated & i prefer sex styleblack star - mos def and talib kweli are black star 7 197 4-5 great songs, otherwise overratedBig L - Lifestylez of the poor and dangerous 7 192 fun visceral record, overrated as a statement abt life or whatever. would rather have mac dre or young bleed or someone above it but maybe thats my 'i have a life story & interesting way of getting it across' vs. 'im a punchline ninja for all time' biasCypress Hill - Cypress Hill 8 189 dope ass record. not to be racialist but where are the beatnuts??Main Source - Breakin' Atoms 7 188 dope ass recordClipse - Lord Willin' 6 186 i like this LP pretty well. had some cool singles and "i'm not you" is amazing. probably slightly overrated here, considering theres, like, no big daddy kane or kool g rap on the listUltramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown 8 177 dope-ass classic. one of the most underrated on this list. how non-ghostface people rap matters!!Ghostface Killah - Fishscale 7 175 gtfo x100000000000Goodie Mob - Soul Food 5 (1) 175 dope ass recordMissy Elliott – Miss E: So Addictive 7 175 dope ass recordLauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill 7 174 this belongs in the canon for all time but is not a personal fav of mine although i do unreservedly love several of the songsGhostface Killah - Ironman 8 173 this is an inconsistent, poorly sequenced, great recordJ Dilla - Donuts 7 168 zzzIce-T - O.G. 6 167 dope record, left this in a caselogic inside a backpack that i left on the train many moons ago :( still have the cd caseDJ Quik & Kurupt – Blaqkout 7 164 i love this but cmon, top 100??? its arguably not even in quik's top 5. certainly not ahead of rhythmalismEminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 5 162 i havent listened to this in yearsEric B and Rakim - Follow the Leader 8 162 best opening tracks of any CD everBoogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded 3 159 dope record although not my fav KRSA Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm 6 158 outside of 'wallet' & 'bonita' i never loved thisT.I. - King 7 156 eff this losing to trap muzik & eff all yallMF Doom – Operation: Doomsday 6 154 dope record, probably better than madvillain in the long runOrganized Konfusion – Organized Konfusion 5 154 how did this beat stress? still a cool lp but i'd only put one in the top 100Beastie Boys – Liscenced to Ill 6 151 ehODB - Nigga Please 7 148 good recordDevin the Dude - Just Tryin' ta live 5 143 fun left field one here, glad yall chose the right recordbig pun - capital punishment 6 142 I think this LP is a lil overrated but def some classics on itBoogie Down Productions - By All Means Necessary 4 141 dope LPCamp Lo – Uptown Saturday Night 5 141 all-time dope tracks on thisRun-D.M.C. – Run D.M.C. 8 141 this is prob my fav dmcBlack Sheep - a Wolf In Sheep's Clothing 6 139 classicDJ Quik - Rhythm-Al-Ism 5 (1) 139 classic obv, personal favKanye West – Late Registration 6 138 his later work has made this seem better and betterOrganized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction Agenda 4 134 great LP one of my favorites. Did you know that rockwilder produced one of the most boring beats on this LP??Heltah Skeltah - Nocturnal 4 133 cool record, surprised smif n wessun didnt make itBlack Moon - Enta Da Stage 7 132 cool record, actually my fav of theirs was that remixes/rarities comp thoWu Tang Clan - The W 4 132 some great-ass songs on this but nowhere near the 100 best rap albums everMos Def - Black on Both Sides 4 130 cool recordCypress Hill - Black Sunday 6 129 i havent listened to this in ages. u effin stonersscarface - the fix 5 129 dope record, not the best scarface at all tholil wayne - tha carter II 5 128 i dont have a 'take' on lil wayne any more, have just been avoiding himPete Rock & CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother 5 128 dope ass record, a lil long, might prefer the 2nd one overall but this has their best songGang Starr - Step In The Arena 4 125 dope ass record, again prefer hard to earn. might take daily operation over it tooLL Cool J – Radio 7 125 need to hear againKool Keith - Black Elvis 4 122 never heard3rd Bass - The Cactus album 4 119 pretty great album iircViktor Vaughn – Vaudeville Villain 5 114 this is a good 1 but not something id put on this list / i actually preferred the beats on geedorahQuasimoto – The Unseen 4 112 havent listened to this in agesKanye West – Graduation 5 109 ehhhhhSon of Bazerk - Bazerk Bazerk Bazerk 4 108 this was a really fun pick for #100 tho i dont listen to it much
where was: dont get me started
― lebroner (D-40), Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:51 (fifteen years ago)
cool novel, bro
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:00 (fifteen years ago)
thats actually an appendix in the hipster puppies book
― lebroner (D-40), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:05 (fifteen years ago)
i actually did read the post and enjoy it but to be real when i was first scrolling down to see the name i expected ilxor
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:09 (fifteen years ago)
Deej you say sex packets is different on cd? All the stuff of that era I bought on cassette so that's the album to me. What was different?
― brodie to the max (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:12 (fifteen years ago)
Some tracks are on the cassette that aren't on the cd. It was discussed upthread.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:13 (fifteen years ago)
'hip hop doll' is missing, gutfest is shorter, etc
― lebroner (D-40), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:14 (fifteen years ago)
it blew my mind when i realized that the cassette of De La Soul Is Dead that i'd been listening to for years was missing a few tracks from the CD (although it has a dope bonus remix at the end)
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:14 (fifteen years ago)
I actually dug that too, d-40. Thanx!
Dare I ask what you think if Shanté: The Bitch Is Back?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:15 (fifteen years ago)
never heard it
― lebroner (D-40), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:16 (fifteen years ago)
liked deej's post except for when he called all my favorite albums "a little overrated"
― you're nobody til somebody SBs you (symsymsym), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:20 (fifteen years ago)
at least i didnt say 'gtfo x10000'
― lebroner (D-40), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:22 (fifteen years ago)
btw when i used 'ninja' upthread i meant it in the literal sense of a ninja being deft etc. not as a synonym for nbombs
― lebroner (D-40), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:24 (fifteen years ago)
not sure that needed clarifying but it would be as if i used 'weed carrier' to describe a satchel used to store weed in a conversation about rap on the internet
i should hope so xp
― you're nobody til somebody SBs you (symsymsym), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:25 (fifteen years ago)
lol deej
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:26 (fifteen years ago)
*opens up weed carrier*
― lebroner (D-40), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:27 (fifteen years ago)
T.I. - King 7 156 eff this losing to trap muzik & eff all yall
???
― Tim F, Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:47 (fifteen years ago)
i like trap muzik more than king. eff = fuck
― lebroner (D-40), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:48 (fifteen years ago)