Sirens sounded, they seemed astounded: THE ILM RAP MUSIC OF THE GODS ALL TIME 100 GREATEST ALBUMS OFFICIAL THREAD

and you sound like you can't distinguish jokes from butthurt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8BqSK1qL-g

^#1 in my forthcoming traxx ballot

(two days & some hours...not too bad...)

weird that the brits wouldnt get behind slick rick

I voted for Slick Rick.

I'd suggest that if there's an album that clearly doesn't belong on this list, it's not Boy In Da Corner but Endtroducing. And I know that was a much bigger deal in the States than it was here.

Blame Ira Glass

of all the things to hate on in this list some dude chooses blowout comb, smh

― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, June 2, 2011 8:27 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

we don't know if it's in the list, and i was mainly saying that i doubt it will be

http://www.complex.com/music/2011/05/the-100-best-nas-songs/

100. Son of Bazerk - Bazerk Bazerk Bazerk (4 votes, 108 points)
99. Kanye West - Graduation (5 votes, 109 points - 2007).
98. Quasimoto (Madlib) - The Unseen [4 votes, 112 points - 2000]
97. Viktor Vaughn (MF Doom) - Vaudeville Villain [5 votes, 114 points, 2003]
96. 3rd Bass - The Cactus Album [4 votes, 119 points, 1989]
95. Kool Keith - Black Elvis/Lost In Space [4 votes, 122 points, 1999]
94. LL Cool J - Radio [7 votes, 125 points, 1985]
93. Gang Starr - Step In The Arena [4 votes, 125 points, 1990]
92. Pete Rock & Cl Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother [5 votes, 128 points, 1992] (tie w/ #91)
91. Lil Wayne - Tha Carter II [5 votes, 128 points, 2005] (tie w/ #92)
90. Scarface - The Fix [5 votes, 129 points, 2002] (tie w/ #89)
89. Cypress Hill - Black Sunday [6 votes, 129 points, 1993] (tie w/ #90)
88. Mos Def - Black on Both Sides [4 votes, 130 points, 1999]
87. Wu-Tang Clan - The W [4 votes, 132 points, 2000] (tie w/ #86)
86. Black Moon - Enta Da Stage [7 votes, 132 points, 1993] (tie w/ 87)
85. Heltah Skeltah - Nocturnal [4 votes, 133 points, 1996]
84. Organized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction Agenda [4 votes, 134 points, 1994]
83. Kanye West - Late Registration [6 votes, 138 points, 2005]
82. Black Sheep - A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing [6 votes, 139 points, 1991] (tie w/ #82)
81. DJ Quik - Rhythm-al-ism (5 votes, 1 #1 vote, 139 points, 1998] (tie w/ #81)
80. Boogie Down Productions - By All Means Necessary [4 votes, 141 points, 1988] (tie w/ #78 and #79)
79. Camp Lo - Uptown Saturday Night [5 votes, 141 points, 1997] (tie w/ #80 and #78)
78. Run-DMC - Run-DMC [8 votes, 141 points, 1984] (tie w/ #80 and #79)
77. Big Pun - Capital Punishment [6 votes, 142 points, 1998]
76. Devin The Dude - Just Tryin' Ta Live [5 votes, 143 points, 2002
75. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Nigga Please [7 votes, 148 points, 1999]
74. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill [6 votes, 151 points, 1986]
73. Organized Konfusion - Organized Konfusion [5 votes, 154 points, 1991] (tie w/ #72)
72. MF DOOM - Operation: Doomsday [6 votes, 154 points, 1999] (tie w/ #73)
71. T.I. - King [7 votes, 156 points, 2006]
70. A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm [6 votes, 158 points, 5 mics, 1990]
69. Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded [3 votes, 159 points, 1987]
68. Eric B & Rakim - Follow The Leader [8 votes, 162 points, 1988] (tie w/ #67)
67. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP [5 votes, 162 points, 2000] (tie w/ #68)
66. DJ Quik & Kurupt - Blaqkout [7 votes, 164 points, 2009]
65. Ice-T - O.G.: Original Gangster [6 votes, 167 points, 1991]
64. J Dilla - Donuts [7 votes, 168 points, 2006]
63. Ghostface Killah - Ironman [8 votes, 173 points, 1996]
62. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill [7 votes, 174 points, 1998]
61. Ghostface Killah - Fishscale [7 votes, 175 points, 2006] (tie w/ #60 and #59)
60. Missy Elliott - Miss:E So Addictive [7 votes, 175 points, 2001] (tie w/ #61 and #59)
59. Goodie Mob - Soul Food [5 votes, 175 points, 1 first place vote, 1995] (tie w/ #61 and #60)
58. Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown [8 votes, 177 points, 1988
57. Clipse - Lord Willin' [6 votes, 186 points, 2002]
56. Main Source - Breaking Atoms [7 votes, 188 points, 1991]
54. Big L - Lifestylez ov da Poor & Dangerous [7 votes, 192 points, 1995]
55. Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill [8 votes, 189 points, 1991]
53. Black Star - Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star [7 votes, 197 points, 1998]
52. Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst [7 votes, 1 #1 vote, 203 points, 1996]
51. Jeru the Damaja - The Sun Rises In The East [8 votes, 204 points, 1994]
50. Ol Dirty' Bastard - Return of the 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version [9 votes, 206 points, 1995]
49. Dr. Dre - 2001 [8 votes, 207 points, 1999] (tie w/ #48)
48. Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick [9 votes, 207 points, 1988] (tie w/ #49)
47. Method Man - Tical [8 votes, 208 points, 1994]
46. De La Soul - Stakes Is High [4 votes, 213 points, 1996]
45. Madvillain - Madvillainy [11 votes, 216 points, 2004]
44. The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death [9 votes, my #1 vote, 217 points, 1997]
43. Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner [9 votes, 222 points, 2003]
42. 2Pac - All Eyez On Me [8 votes, 225 points, 1996]
41. De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate [9 votes, 225 points, 1993]
40. EPMD - Strictly Business [10 votes, 230 points, 1988]
39. The Beastie Boys - Check Your Head [8 votes, 239 points, 1992]
38. Ghostface Killah - The Pretty Toney Album [9 votes, 245 points, 2004]
37. DJ Shadow - Endtroducing... [8 votes, 247 points, 1996]
36. LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out [8 votes, 1 #1 vote, 249 points, 1990]
35. Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever [8 votes, 253 points, 1997]
34. Run-DMC - Raising Hell [9 votes, 259 points, 1986]
33. Gang Starr - Moment Of Truth [7 votes, 1 #1 vote, 262 points, 1998]
32. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele [11 votes, 263 points, 2000]
31. UGK - Ridin’ Dirty [7 votes, 272 points, 1996]
30. De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead [10 votes, 276 points, 5 mics, 1991]
29. Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury [12 votes, 284 points, 2006]
28. Kanye West - The College Dropout [10 votes, 289 points, 2003]
27. Digital Underground - Sex Packets [10 votes, 310 points, 1990]
26. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein [10 votes, 312 points, 2001]

http://www.complex.com/music/2011/05/the-100-best-nas-songs/

― President Keyes, Thursday, June 2, 2011 8:31 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

HOLY SHIT this is awesome...so many unreleased demos and bootlegs so far, amazing classic era shit...damn

no Too $hort, no E-40, no Mac Dre :(

Can't say I expected Mac Dre or e-40, but I had hopes for $hort dog.

lol at all the bitching in this thread. i voted for Slick Rick, B.I.G., Gang Starr etc. and Dizzee, Clipse, Cannibal Ox all at the same time, who says they can't coexist?

good results so far btw. my #1 hasn't shown yet, i thought it had no shot at top 25 but would be surprised if it didnt show somewhere in the 100 so who knows?

congrats on epitomizing the banal consensus of ilx bro

in my world of banal consensus

maybe someday i'll be cool enough to disown rap albums i have played a lot "bro"

sigh

i don't think it's the fact that clipse or can ox or dizzee made the list, just the placement

like, i reserve all right to call you a complete idiot if you think 'boy in da corner' is better than 'life after death' or 'hell hath no fury' is better than 'ridin dirty'

i'd place Ridin Dirty higher than HHNF if i ranked 'em on my own, but i also know which i've played more times and it ain't UGK, sad to say

(i've played UGK s/t double album the most of theirs, and think i voted for that, btw)

i don't think mc tunes got a vote. paul barman on the other hand may yet still make an appearance...

i dont give a fuck about ilxor's last fm i just think the rankings suck

but tbh hhnf shouldnt have made it

i don't think mc tunes got a vote

whoa. ppl saved their votes for the Dust Junkys? another sad testimony to ILM's population with newjacks ;_;

xp- luckily there was a GOON POLL that put elite deej-taste front and center, amirite?

agree HHNF should be lower but i still <3 that record; agree it's a step above Lord Willin so at least ilm got that part right

how many records listed have you heard ilxor

i would count 'em up but you'd make fun of me for counting

alright, i caved (surprise!) - the albums i've NOT heard from the list so far -

100. Son of Bazerk - Bazerk Bazerk Bazerk (4 votes, 108 points)
96. 3rd Bass - The Cactus Album [4 votes, 119 points, 1989]
89. Cypress Hill - Black Sunday [6 votes, 129 points, 1993] (tie w/ #90)
86. Black Moon - Enta Da Stage [7 votes, 132 points, 1993] (tie w/ 87)
85. Heltah Skeltah - Nocturnal [4 votes, 133 points, 1996]
79. Camp Lo - Uptown Saturday Night [5 votes, 141 points, 1997] (tie w/ #80 and #78)
76. Devin The Dude - Just Tryin' Ta Live [5 votes, 143 points, 2002
56. Main Source - Breaking Atoms [7 votes, 188 points, 1991]
54. Big L - Lifestylez ov da Poor & Dangerous [7 votes, 192 points, 1995]
55. Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill [8 votes, 189 points, 1991]
51. Jeru the Damaja - The Sun Rises In The East [8 votes, 204 points, 1994]
42. 2Pac - All Eyez On Me [8 votes, 225 points, 1996]
27. Digital Underground - Sex Packets [10 votes, 310 points, 1990]

heard all the others front to back, own 44 of 'em on CD (i.e. have paid $$ not downloaded), don't have the other 18

perhaps the 13 i've not heard are your 13 favorites?

(i realize i have no excuse for not having hear All Eyez on Me fwiw)

tbf those are all the best ones

i mean i've noticed ppl getting super-excited for those but is that just 'cause they are all "unexpected" and not "canon"? who knows. ill check out a bunch of em regardless though im sure

Isn't the whole point of these to bitch and moan about where things placed or didn't place? Otherwise it'd be a bunch of cirkle-jerking and hi fives all around, nah, people should be held accountable for their decisions. Like I too rushed my list and neglected to vote for Rick the Ruler, and now I feel like a shlump.

Some great lp's on here tho and there's been plenty of positivity to balance it all out. Not sure you would find rhythmalism or just trying to live on the average best of list.

You really need All Eyez on Me too.

there is def quite a few things that shouldn't have placed + the rankings are v weird but mostly these are classic albums

OB4CL >>> 36 chambers

btw

i'm cool with lord willin placing low in a poll like this but HHNF probably not (altho i think it's great)

i'm a big BDK guy will be sad if nothing by him places. voted 4 'big daddy thing'

i guess 'get rich or die trying' isn't gonna place :(

Nice to see Sex Packets (my #12) and The Cold Vein (my #5) make it so high. I don't really see any point in this kind of a false dichotomy that only backpackers (and Britishers) who don't care about "real" rap music can dig Can Ox. I don't listen to that much backpacker rap (Company Flow, Aesop Rock, etc bore me, and I've never even heard anything by Sage Francis, Non-Prophets and whathever was mentioned in that list above), and I've heard plenty of dire sci-fi rap, but I can dig it when someone actually manages to make something great out of those elements. The Cold Vein has some incredibly cold and dystopian and evocative beats (it sounds much better than El-P's production on the Company Flow albums), a rapper with one of the most unique flows of all time, and a good blend of clever metaphors and social commentary, sci-fi telekinesis shit and more down-to-earth storytelling. So you shouldn’t dimiss just because it's lumped together with other records that rap fundamentalists aren’t supposed to like.

I've listened to rap music ever since I was a kid, but like many other ILXors I also have my geeky interests. I read science fiction and fantasy books, I've been down with Marvel comics for as long as I've been down with rap, but I never liked heavy metal, even if it does have a lot of that fantasy and sci-fi imagery... So when I hear stuff like Cannibal Ox rapping about ”The Battle for Asgard”, with Vordul saying he's swallowing planets like Galactus, with beats that sound like Odin pummeling Surtur, that’s like two of my favourite things together! I love Digital Underground and 2Pac and the more street-level kinds of rap too, and I listen to that more than esoteric sci-fi rap, but sometimes the esoteric stuff just touches a chord in me that other stuff doesn’t. So fuck it if you think rap music can’t be taken into that direction too without somehow compromising it's "realness".

the cold vein is a cool album bro just it's way too high.

i wouldn't vote for dizzee on this poll, just cos i kind of think of british "urban" (hate this term) music as a different genre sorry

u know what would be an AMAZING poll would be the 100 greatest rap albums excluding this list...

i'm british btw

Public Enemy x 2
Ice Cube x 2
Outkast x 2
Tribe x 2
NWA
Pharcyde
Beastie Boys
Notorious BIG
Nas
Jay-Z
GZA
Raekwon
Wu-Tang
Mobb Deep
De La
Dre
Snoop
Brand Nubian
Eric B & Rakim
AN Other x 2 - Gravediggaz? Geto Boys? Souls of Mischief? KMD?

Gravediggaz is a lock for the top 20, but I don't think Brand Nubian will place this high. Geto Boys are probably in the top 25 too.

I assumed 2Pac's Me Against the World would place higher than All Eyez on Me, but I'm not sure if ILXors like it enough to get it into the top 25. It'd be a nice surprise to see it there though.

i don't think mc tunes got a vote

You're just saying this to upset me.

Isn't the whole point of these to bitch and moan about where things placed or didn't place? Otherwise it'd be a bunch of cirkle-jerking and hi fives all around

I totally get this by the way. It's just that the only reason I'm submitting myself to this whole ordeal is to get some recommends on some good albums I haven't heard yet but that the levels of vitriol on show are pretty high, seeing as my only crime seems to be that I don't like Tupac and I've put some albums in the 'wrong order'.

If it was up to me we'd gang up and laugh at people taking part in the Blur poll. But I'm a righteous dude like that.

Y'know but in proper grammar and stuff.

that was a good post by tuomas, five or six posts ago

tho i don't think i listened to 'battle for asgard' in a long time because i was annoyed by a line that i thought went 'this is the battle for as gard / and we fight AS GUARDS'

There's something about Hip Hop that brings out the Harold Bloom in its listeners, me included. Setting markers about what albums are the canon and clowning people who have different opinions--especially new jacks who listen to half a Smif n Wessun album, say "they aaight" and then start going on about Madlib's 14th collection of Bongwater covers. Maybe it's because rap is such a competitive art form that we're always arguing about the GOAT or whatever.