Sirens sounded, they seemed astounded: THE ILM RAP MUSIC OF THE GODS ALL TIME 100 GREATEST ALBUMS OFFICIAL THREAD

xp I can't compute preferring it (or almost anything else) to Illmatic either tbh. I just don't like nicky or anyone else being patronised but OK, great if that's not what you meant.

I don't think Dr. Octagon is a bad record by any means, but a little distance had diluted its charms somewhat (at least for me). I think if its overestimated at all its because at the time it was such an expected left-field thing - no one expected a golden age rapper like Kool Keith to come back with a sci-fi/horror concept album featuring beats from a bunch of previously unknown Bay Area weirdos and a sleeve by a guy previously known for doing Metallica records. I mean imagine if, say, Kool Moe Dee or KRS did this. It was totally out of the blue, it opened up a second phase in his career on a very WTF note. But taken in the context of what he did before and what he did after, it falls somewhere in the middle quality-wise.

xp

so at this rate it looks like a certain public enemy album or liquid swords will be #1

http://youtu.be/bI-eMXfA1rM

^^^this better place up high, motherfuckers.

oddly, the other day my wife and I were talking about what rap is appropriate to play around our daughter and she asked me if there was any decent post-'87 rap that didn't feature the "n-word" or egregious swearing in it and Brand Nubian was all I could come up with. that album is clean as a whistle, in a funny 5 percenter way.

Uh, De La Soul?

Actually wait, "De La Orgee"

rain in england?

^^^winner

Agree with Shakey on Doc Oc.

"oddly, the other day my wife and I were talking about what rap is appropriate to play around our daughter..."

This deserves a thread I think, my kid is 2.5 and I need to start getting some good playlists together.

oddly, the other day my wife and I were talking about what rap is appropriate to play around our daughter and she asked me if there was any decent post-'87 rap that didn't feature the "n-word" or egregious swearing in it and Brand Nubian was all I could come up with. that album is clean as a whistle, in a funny 5 percenter way.

this is entirely dependent on your tolerance threshold for Will Smith

Are there any committed five percenter rappers anymore? At least ones that foreground it? It was so dominant for a short while, along with constantly talking about your "intellect".

xp Nice analysis of Dr Octagon - I like it but I agree it got disproportionate attention for those reasons.

like, I would recommend He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper all day and all night

Can anyone vouch for Run DMC s/t being better than Raising Hell, always wondered if I should get it?

I think you could make a killer LL comp for kids, he's pretty clean, rakim too

just leave off "Doin' It"

Any episode of Yo MTV Raps will have plenty of good ideas in it.

There wasn't much that was "bad" for kids in "pop" rap pre 1988, was there?

like when I was getting into rap in 1985, everything I heard was goofy & non-threatening, which 11 year old me loved.

Blackalicious for kids? I had a teacher ask me this once and I just felt like some really old, out of touch hippy lecturer for suggesting it when her 10-yr old students would presumably, even at that age sooner listen to Obie Trice but I still recommended them to her. And J5 natch.

ah shit, I guess License To Ill was 1986; my parents hated that album.

I bet there is something a kid would like that isn't infinity years old.

nah Raising Hell is totally better

like, I would recommend He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper all day and all night

huh you know I don't have this album and I should - the singles from it are great. however, this is also precisely the limit of my tolerance of Will Smith lol

xp

There wasn't much that was "bad" for kids in "pop" rap pre 1988, was there?

yeah but note I said "post-'87". there's tons of old school stuff that's kid-appropriate and awesome - Whodini, the Biz, etc

Queen Latifah
assorted Tribe
Del the Funky Homosapien
MC Hammer (don't front)

was gonna say the low end theory is pretty low on obscenities

with Tribe I'm gonna have to explain what jimmy hats are...likewise "Bust A Move" is a pretty jolly tune but I have it in a karaoke video game & it's waaaay more lewd than I want to sing with my 10 year old.

let's get it started by hammer is a good one way better than please hammer don't hurt em

xp: this is why you stick with stuff like "Excursions"

i left my wallet in el segundo teaches kids a valuable lesson about keeping track of their wallets

first Tribe has Pubic Enemy on it
Low End Theory has a ton of swearing, plus the date rape song
Midnight Marauders has an ENTIRE SONG about the n-word

Latifah - eh, I dunno, never really been into her cuz I found that "Ladies First" single annoying. Monie Love otoh...

I dunno which Del album yr referring to, the first one is definitely not kid-appropriate (pissin' on your steps!)

xp

I am talking about songs, not entire albums!

And you should really investigate more of that first Latifah album, esp. "Dance For Me"

yeah maybe this should be another thread

xp

Children's Story by Slick Rick is probably not a good move tho.

or "a gangsta's fairytale"

Wu-tang is for the children iirc

Appropriate hip-hop tracks for children (post 1987)?

Haha, awesome turn this thread has taken!

Spotify playlist of the albums available from 100-51 (37 of them)

http://open.spotify.com/user/onimo/playlist/6wBgdIntW7HS5LN5LsQokj

thx onimo

nice! I am lucky enough to be in Europe for a while so I can use Spotify now (though it looks like I have to start paying after 10 hrs of usage? yuck).

had to go back and listen to Black Elvis bc of this thread and man it's filled with some hilarious hooks:

Supergalactic lover
Comin' from the projects on the hill
Supergalactic lover
In my monkey green rag top Seville

plus this song still rules

Conscience is an aptitude, faculty, intuition, or judgment of the intellect that distinguishes right from wrong.

Dre:Yo! This girl's only fifteen years old
You shouldn't take advantage of her, that's not fair

What am I missing?

― President Keyes, Thursday, 2 June 2011 02:19 (7 hours ago)

you're missing the lyric:

Dre: I'm your motherfucking conscience
Eminem: That's nonsense!

huh you know I don't have this album and I should - the singles from it are great. however, this is also precisely the limit of my tolerance of Will Smith lol

xp

― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 June 2011 06:53

The first three albums are all p good, though the singles are usually the highlights

(though it looks like I have to start paying after 10 hrs of usage? yuck).

― Euler, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 23:13 (Yesterday) Bookmark

just restart yr pc, the 10hr count resets itself

holy shit wait wtf new spotify update has killed that. ;_; rip my spotify usage.

I use spotify on my phone as well as at home so I decided to subscribe - figured it was worth the price of a CD per month.

xp How can £10 a month for unlimited listening be prohibitively expensive?

are americans awake yet?