Sirens sounded, they seemed astounded: THE ILM RAP MUSIC OF THE GODS ALL TIME 100 GREATEST ALBUMS OFFICIAL THREAD

Come Clean <3

Dr. Doom album and Sex Style are underrated imo

Think I went for 'Wrath..' with my Jeru vote.

"Come Clean" melted my brain when I first heard it

okay this list is officially too backpacker heavy sorry guyz

xp

freaky freaky freaky freaky flow

Dr. Doom album and Sex Style are underrated imo

^^^^this

I never listen to Octagon these days really. it's great but it's sort of... limited? Also I hate Dan the Automator.

control the mic like fidel castro

Primo and jeru went so well together

also from way way way upthread, have now actually listened to Camp Lo 'Uptown Sat Night'. Wonderful. So many thanks to all who voted for it and thus brought it into my life.

I think some folks forgot to continue listening to rap about 10 years ago. Some of this stuff was classic for years, but just hasn't held up at all. Or the names just get passed around so much in hiphop conversations that people just buy into it without actually analyzing the tunes.

which albums in particular spottie?

Doc Oc, Black Star to start.

yeah i dunno i listened to doc oc a while back, still pretty weird cool album to me...black star i was gonna defend but i can only remember the highlights as you said

i didn't vote for either of them in my final list but they were on my larger list

if anything's going to get a short shrift i think it's super early pre-golden age/run-dmc stuff

but maybe lots of that will pop up on the singles list because it was more of a singles format then

The Prince Paul 'Blue Flowers' mix is the only thing from that project I can get down with still.

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:36 (17 minutes ago) Permalink

'girl let me touch you there' is still dope imo

i like earth people

maybe lots of that will pop up on the singles list because it was more of a singles format then

Yeah, it was quite a while before the album was a legit concern in rap. The first one that was really consistent front to back (imo) was Whodini's debut.

Thems is good, I admit, maybe I was underselling it a bit, idk. xp

The "General Hospital" skit on Octagon is and always will be the best thing about that record.

Notwithstanding many bad imitations since, Dr Octagon sounded weird and fresh in 96 and I still rate it now. Earth People and Blue Flowers alone are astounding though Shakey has a point re: "limited".

"I think some folks forgot to continue listening to rap about 10 years ago. Some of this stuff was classic for years, but just hasn't held up at all. Or the names just get passed around so much in hiphop conversations that people just buy into it without actually analyzing the tunes."

Maybe people just have different tastes in music. I think the Black Star album towers over Illmatic. I know people will call me crazy, but opinions are all in fun anyway. I don't understand all the analyzing of people's taste.

O_o

I still have a cursory interest in hip hop but really I think the last 10 years worth of albums pale largely pales in comparison to what was coming out in the 80s/90s. because I am a grumpy old man. that hates shitty synth plugin presets.

I love Jeru's voice and general oddness. There was something genuinely off-kilter about him without him having to try too hard to prove it. Kept flip-flopping between this and Wrath of the Math in the poll but settled on this because of Come Clean. Anyone know what his post-96 albums are like?

That's what forums are all about. Xxxp

Jeru post preemo is bad, barring a few singles.

XXXP: I agree with the sentiment as most of the stuff I used to listen to all the time (all LL Cool J, most Run DMC, a lot of Eric B and Rakim, Straight Outta Compton, a lot of Beastie Boys, some BDP and KRSOne) doesn't sound that good to me any more but Dr Octagon still sounds ace to me.

I forgot all about Jeru. That's a great album.

Maybe people just have different tastes in music. I think the Black Star album towers over Illmatic. I know people will call me crazy, but opinions are all in fun anyway. I don't understand all the analyzing of people's taste.

― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, June 1, 2011 7:26 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah thats batshit challops

I know. I think Nas and Kanye are the two most overrated rappers ever.

"I am a grumpy old man. that hates shitty synth plugin presets"

I think this is one reason people like different eras. I know a lot of people who think rap production is too club orientated today.

I also know a lot of people who think old school rapping is not gymnastic enough.

which era are we calling "old school" here

80-85

nicky u r a treat

I know a lot of people who think rap production is too club orientated today.

tbh this is why I like a lot more current rap than anything in the last 15 years or so, and I'm not even really a dance stan.

also no one actually has ever rated Kanye's skills as a rapper

While we're getting all this "and then I went to the shops wearing my mother's wedding dress" stuff off our chests. I voted for The W but not Forever. I bought it the day it came out and the initial disappointment I felt with it is something I've never quite got over, while (Tuomas band otm) Careful and Hollow Bones are two of the best songs they ever did.

bang otm

Screw being embarrassed for any of your preferences. Five years of ILX telling me that anyone who prefers Fishscale to Supreme Clientele is an idiot and yet there it is. With any of these poll choices it's not ignorance or not understanding hip hop or not keeping up or "buying into it without actually analyzing the tunes" - it's just taste.

I sort of feel like anyone who can't still see what made those original LL singles so fantastic has forgotten how to live

Singles yeah, for sure but I'd never listen to a whole LL album now and it's not for the want of trying.

its never 'just taste'

fwiw,

ultramagnetic >>> sex style >>> dr octagon

i havent heard black elvis but am weirded out that it made a list of the 100 best albums ever

Explain.

Can't people like what they like? ffs

i havent heard black elvis but am weirded out that it made a list of the 100 best albums ever

?

not if they are uptight, image conscious posers

strike that last post. my bad. I Love Music.

ultramagnetic >>> sex style >>> dr octagon

Agree with this.

its never 'just taste'

this may be true, but the reasons behind it aren't always sinister

ultramagnetic >>> sex style >>> dr octagon

I would rank them this way too, altho I rate Sex Style and Black Elvis about the same

xp

"Screw being embarrassed for any of your preferences. Five years of ILX telling me that anyone who prefers Fishscale to Supreme Clientele is an idiot and yet there it is. With any of these poll choices it's not ignorance or not understanding hip hop or not keeping up or "buying into it without actually analyzing the tunes" - it's just taste."

But really tho, can anyone actually defend Black Star as a full length lp of classic tunes?