Sirens sounded, they seemed astounded: THE ILM RAP MUSIC OF THE GODS ALL TIME 100 GREATEST ALBUMS OFFICIAL THREAD

despite their best efforts

He's constantly pausing between lines.

this was not a mistake!! it's called a NEW STYLE sheesh - he was breaking away from just doing A/B/A/B rhymes

I know this, but you can still do internal rhymes and stuff like that without the constant pauses; Rakim had already done that. Compared to him, Keith's flow on CB sounds weak. If you listen to people who have never rapped before trying to rap, they almost always pause between rhymes. It sounds amateurish, you have to practice your technique to make make the raps flow better from one line to another.

lol yeah what the fuck happened

53. Black Star - Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star [7 votes, 197 points, 1998

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uh oh who let the Post-College White Indie Hipsters up in here

Few great tracks and that's it on Black Star.

the good tracks are nice tho

okay I am retracting my halfhearted defense of Tuomas

i wish they never went with the 'rework old classics on every track' thing because the beats are nice and those dudes are talented

I went with great, still stands.

AStronomy
Defintition
Respiration
K.O.S. (Determination)

The rest is passable.

52. Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst [7 votes, 1 #1 vote, 203 points, 1996]

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haha

I cant even see listening to that today

ugh.

Tuomas thinks Kool Keith needs to practice... I will let him know

Black Star is totally boring, altho I like Mos Def well enough

never really cared for post-ultra keith. it was either too knowing for its own good or like on dr. octagon, a man who ate a thesaurus without using it to any real effect that would spawn countless imitators who were similarly kinda shitty at pretending they were smart.

1 more album today but its so hot it'll set fire to yr building [clue]

The Prince Paul 'Blue Flowers' mix is the only thing from that project I can get down with still.

51. Jeru the Damaja - The Sun Rises In The East [8 votes, 204 points, 1994]

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cool to see Missy on here, although i voted for Supa Dupa Fly and Da Real World instead

Come Clean <3

Dr. Doom album and Sex Style are underrated imo

Think I went for 'Wrath..' with my Jeru vote.

"Come Clean" melted my brain when I first heard it

okay this list is officially too backpacker heavy sorry guyz

xp

freaky freaky freaky freaky flow

Dr. Doom album and Sex Style are underrated imo

^^^^this

I never listen to Octagon these days really. it's great but it's sort of... limited? Also I hate Dan the Automator.

control the mic like fidel castro

Primo and jeru went so well together

also from way way way upthread, have now actually listened to Camp Lo 'Uptown Sat Night'. Wonderful. So many thanks to all who voted for it and thus brought it into my life.

I think some folks forgot to continue listening to rap about 10 years ago. Some of this stuff was classic for years, but just hasn't held up at all. Or the names just get passed around so much in hiphop conversations that people just buy into it without actually analyzing the tunes.

which albums in particular spottie?

Doc Oc, Black Star to start.

yeah i dunno i listened to doc oc a while back, still pretty weird cool album to me...black star i was gonna defend but i can only remember the highlights as you said

i didn't vote for either of them in my final list but they were on my larger list

if anything's going to get a short shrift i think it's super early pre-golden age/run-dmc stuff

but maybe lots of that will pop up on the singles list because it was more of a singles format then

The Prince Paul 'Blue Flowers' mix is the only thing from that project I can get down with still.

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:36 (17 minutes ago) Permalink

'girl let me touch you there' is still dope imo

i like earth people

maybe lots of that will pop up on the singles list because it was more of a singles format then

Yeah, it was quite a while before the album was a legit concern in rap. The first one that was really consistent front to back (imo) was Whodini's debut.

Thems is good, I admit, maybe I was underselling it a bit, idk. xp

The "General Hospital" skit on Octagon is and always will be the best thing about that record.

Notwithstanding many bad imitations since, Dr Octagon sounded weird and fresh in 96 and I still rate it now. Earth People and Blue Flowers alone are astounding though Shakey has a point re: "limited".

"I think some folks forgot to continue listening to rap about 10 years ago. Some of this stuff was classic for years, but just hasn't held up at all. Or the names just get passed around so much in hiphop conversations that people just buy into it without actually analyzing the tunes."

Maybe people just have different tastes in music. I think the Black Star album towers over Illmatic. I know people will call me crazy, but opinions are all in fun anyway. I don't understand all the analyzing of people's taste.

O_o

I still have a cursory interest in hip hop but really I think the last 10 years worth of albums pale largely pales in comparison to what was coming out in the 80s/90s. because I am a grumpy old man. that hates shitty synth plugin presets.

I love Jeru's voice and general oddness. There was something genuinely off-kilter about him without him having to try too hard to prove it. Kept flip-flopping between this and Wrath of the Math in the poll but settled on this because of Come Clean. Anyone know what his post-96 albums are like?

That's what forums are all about. Xxxp

Jeru post preemo is bad, barring a few singles.

XXXP: I agree with the sentiment as most of the stuff I used to listen to all the time (all LL Cool J, most Run DMC, a lot of Eric B and Rakim, Straight Outta Compton, a lot of Beastie Boys, some BDP and KRSOne) doesn't sound that good to me any more but Dr Octagon still sounds ace to me.

I forgot all about Jeru. That's a great album.

Maybe people just have different tastes in music. I think the Black Star album towers over Illmatic. I know people will call me crazy, but opinions are all in fun anyway. I don't understand all the analyzing of people's taste.

― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, June 1, 2011 7:26 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah thats batshit challops

I know. I think Nas and Kanye are the two most overrated rappers ever.

"I am a grumpy old man. that hates shitty synth plugin presets"

I think this is one reason people like different eras. I know a lot of people who think rap production is too club orientated today.

I also know a lot of people who think old school rapping is not gymnastic enough.