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― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:19 (fifteen years ago)
I really don't like that Big L album. Hadn't even heard it until a couple years ago (thx to some Kool G Rap vs Big L poll) and yeah, just couldn't get into it. Nihilism was just too overbearing, I think.
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:20 (fifteen years ago)
Yah he was angry, still like it tho.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:21 (fifteen years ago)
that Cypress Hill album has held up really well imho. Muggs' beats are such a strange intersection of east coast boom bap and west coast proto-psych-funk or something.
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:22 (fifteen years ago)
yeah it has
― shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:22 (fifteen years ago)
despite their best efforts
He's constantly pausing between lines.
this was not a mistake!! it's called a NEW STYLE sheesh - he was breaking away from just doing A/B/A/B rhymes
I know this, but you can still do internal rhymes and stuff like that without the constant pauses; Rakim had already done that. Compared to him, Keith's flow on CB sounds weak. If you listen to people who have never rapped before trying to rap, they almost always pause between rhymes. It sounds amateurish, you have to practice your technique to make make the raps flow better from one line to another.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:23 (fifteen years ago)
lol yeah what the fuck happened
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:23 (fifteen years ago)
53. Black Star - Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star [7 votes, 197 points, 1998
http://images.wikia.com/lyricwiki/images/c/ca/Mos_Def_-_Mos_Def_%26_Talib_Kweli_Are_Black_Star.jpg
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:24 (fifteen years ago)
uh oh who let the Post-College White Indie Hipsters up in here
― shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:24 (fifteen years ago)
Few great tracks and that's it on Black Star.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:26 (fifteen years ago)
the good tracks are nice tho
― shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:26 (fifteen years ago)
okay I am retracting my halfhearted defense of Tuomas
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:27 (fifteen years ago)
i wish they never went with the 'rework old classics on every track' thing because the beats are nice and those dudes are talented
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:27 (fifteen years ago)
I went with great, still stands.
AStronomyDefintitionRespirationK.O.S. (Determination)
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
The rest is passable.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:29 (fifteen years ago)
52. Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst [7 votes, 1 #1 vote, 203 points, 1996]
http://www.swiftsessions.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/dr_octagon-dr_octagonecologyst.jpg
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:29 (fifteen years ago)
haha
― shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:31 (fifteen years ago)
I cant even see listening to that today
― lolen deejeneres (H3LP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
ugh.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
Tuomas thinks Kool Keith needs to practice... I will let him know
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)
Black Star is totally boring, altho I like Mos Def well enough
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:34 (fifteen years ago)
never really cared for post-ultra keith. it was either too knowing for its own good or like on dr. octagon, a man who ate a thesaurus without using it to any real effect that would spawn countless imitators who were similarly kinda shitty at pretending they were smart.
1 more album today but its so hot it'll set fire to yr building [clue]
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:35 (fifteen years ago)
The Prince Paul 'Blue Flowers' mix is the only thing from that project I can get down with still.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
51. Jeru the Damaja - The Sun Rises In The East [8 votes, 204 points, 1994]
http://frolab.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/1245293228659f.jpeg
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
cool to see Missy on here, although i voted for Supa Dupa Fly and Da Real World instead
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
Come Clean <3
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
Dr. Doom album and Sex Style are underrated imo
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
Think I went for 'Wrath..' with my Jeru vote.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
"Come Clean" melted my brain when I first heard it
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
okay this list is officially too backpacker heavy sorry guyz
xp
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
freaky freaky freaky freaky flow
― shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
^^^^this
I never listen to Octagon these days really. it's great but it's sort of... limited? Also I hate Dan the Automator.
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
control the mic like fidel castro
― brodie to the max (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
Primo and jeru went so well together
― lolen deejeneres (H3LP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
also from way way way upthread, have now actually listened to Camp Lo 'Uptown Sat Night'. Wonderful. So many thanks to all who voted for it and thus brought it into my life.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:40 (fifteen years ago)
I think some folks forgot to continue listening to rap about 10 years ago. Some of this stuff was classic for years, but just hasn't held up at all. Or the names just get passed around so much in hiphop conversations that people just buy into it without actually analyzing the tunes.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:43 (fifteen years ago)
which albums in particular spottie?
― brodie to the max (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:45 (fifteen years ago)
Doc Oc, Black Star to start.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:47 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i dunno i listened to doc oc a while back, still pretty weird cool album to me...black star i was gonna defend but i can only remember the highlights as you said
i didn't vote for either of them in my final list but they were on my larger list
― brodie to the max (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:50 (fifteen years ago)
if anything's going to get a short shrift i think it's super early pre-golden age/run-dmc stuff
but maybe lots of that will pop up on the singles list because it was more of a singles format then
― brodie to the max (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:51 (fifteen years ago)
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:36 (17 minutes ago) Permalink
'girl let me touch you there' is still dope imo
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:56 (fifteen years ago)
i like earth people
― brodie to the max (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
maybe lots of that will pop up on the singles list because it was more of a singles format then
Yeah, it was quite a while before the album was a legit concern in rap. The first one that was really consistent front to back (imo) was Whodini's debut.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:59 (fifteen years ago)
Thems is good, I admit, maybe I was underselling it a bit, idk. xp
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:01 (fifteen years ago)
The "General Hospital" skit on Octagon is and always will be the best thing about that record.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
Notwithstanding many bad imitations since, Dr Octagon sounded weird and fresh in 96 and I still rate it now. Earth People and Blue Flowers alone are astounding though Shakey has a point re: "limited".
― We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:20 (fifteen years ago)
"I think some folks forgot to continue listening to rap about 10 years ago. Some of this stuff was classic for years, but just hasn't held up at all. Or the names just get passed around so much in hiphop conversations that people just buy into it without actually analyzing the tunes." Maybe people just have different tastes in music. I think the Black Star album towers over Illmatic. I know people will call me crazy, but opinions are all in fun anyway. I don't understand all the analyzing of people's taste.
― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:26 (fifteen years ago)
O_o
― shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
I still have a cursory interest in hip hop but really I think the last 10 years worth of albums pale largely pales in comparison to what was coming out in the 80s/90s. because I am a grumpy old man. that hates shitty synth plugin presets.
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:32 (fifteen years ago)