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I would love to see one of these on Pink Flag.

― ersatz (ersatz), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Is it bad form to ask if anyone here is submitting a proposal for the new batch?

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Not at all. I am.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'd really like a Only Built for Cuban Linx book. Somebody should do it

― rizzx (Rizz), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Out of 60 some books, I count A Tribe Called Quest, the Beastie Boys and DJ Shadow as the only rap-related ones so far.

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I have pitched a rap-related one for this round: The Geto Boys' self-titled album on Def American.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hopefully submitting a pitch, but it's for a fairly recent screamo/hardcore album. So I'm kinda relying on my argument being compelling.

― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Which album?

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Wait. The ATCQ one is People's Instinctive Travels? Somebody done fucked up.

I'm all for a Cuban Linx book.

― The Reverend Rodney J. Greene in a DIE BLIPSTER SCUM! tee (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

I would kill to know more about Vision Creation Newsun! Has there even been a proper book done?

― UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

Pink Flag and Entertainment!(!) Though I dare say Simon Reynolds ruined it for everyone.

― Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

"I'd really like a Only Built for Cuban Linx book. Somebody should do it"

Didn't they just do an insanely detailed feature in XXL last year?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yep.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm gonna pitch one too. Wish me luck everybody!

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

I hope for more non-anglocentric albums next go around.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

I WAS AT THAT RITZ SHOW.

Me too. I remember the endless chord at the end of the MBV show. But what struck me most was the annoyingness of Gary Young.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

I would kill to know more about Vision Creation Newsun! Has there even been a proper book done?

-- UART variations (jon@w

Ditto!

― etc (esskay), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

also: Tim Finney plz to write Discovery/Since I Left You!

― etc (esskay), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

I pitched Since I Left You last year and was rejected. :(

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 1 February 2007 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't they just do an insanely detailed feature in XXL last year?

oh shoot! i cant get that here in holland, if somebody has it and wants to scan it? please!?

― Joris (rizzx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

I pitched Since I Left You last year and was rejected. :(

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 February 2007 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

>I hope for more non-anglocentric albums next go around.
-- Alex in SF (clobberthesauru...), February 1st, 2007.

(We'll see. We have to crunch the numbers and determine if any of that rap or foreign stuff can sell the kind of numbers that Neutral Milk Hotel has. How the heck will we market it--what book review journals can we get them in--what brick and mortar and online sites will take that stuff)

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

*blink* Okay, I honestly didn't know you were involved with this as well, curmudgeon! (Then again I've only ever talked with David B.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

he might be kidding.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm the psychic accountant who advises David (or just interprets his blog postings) :)

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Mystic!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

"We have to crunch the numbers and determine if any of that rap or foreign stuff can sell the kind of numbers that Neutral Milk Hotel has."

Yeah I understand the rationale and I'm glad the series exists and sells as well as it does. It's just a personal preference.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

It is a sad truth that rap writing doesn't sell as well as rock writing.

The worst-selling Spin cover of all time? OutKast.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Jokes aside, I'm trying to grasp the reasons for the fact that the series is so not multicultural. But I guess that will just turn this thread into one of those mocked pazz & jop ones ('why do I have to vote for a more than one rap record to prove I'm not a racist') or Ethan will mock me for including a white rocker in my JnP singles ballot while advocating for more rap and international music. Others will just say put up or shut up and submit some ideas or find another publisher (alas, my work and family schedule does not allow me time for such lengthy efforts) and some will just say, hey, it's just a matter of economics and class social structure regarding which books will sell. Just deal with it.

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Less than this one?

http://collectorama.murderhorn.com/pictures/promos/13small.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

x-post

If you market it right, the buyers will come (to paraphrase Field of Dreams), I would like to believe. It might take a little more work though.

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Did Jeff Chang and Nelson George have trouble with publishers telling them their books would not likely sell?

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

...and Egotrip and David Toop...

Well, the Stevie Wonder book is now out (and it is Black History month, maybe that will help in getting sales)

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Christopher/Whiney, what do you think of the above questions/comments?

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 2 February 2007 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

:::crickets:::

― Welcome to the Pazz and Jop poll. (M Matos), Friday, 2 February 2007 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

As in "Buddy Holly and the..."

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea what these people's publishers had to say to them!

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

But pointing out a Nelson George book as an example of how hip-hop writing sells is like pointing out a Nelly album as an example of how St. Louis hip-hop is huge right now.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Stevie Wonder book sounds awesome.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I would kill to know more about Vision Creation Newsun! Has there even been a proper book done?

-- UART variations (jo...), Wednesday 3:17 PM. (ex machina)

you could pay someone $25 to translate that one issue Studio Voice that has the comprehensive Boredoms history. :-D

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

my roommate was lazy and would read it and tell me interesting things

― UART variations (ex machina), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, the Court and Spark one is so dull. What did GB Shaw once say, "Once you put it down you can't pick it up"?

― douglas eklund (skolle), Sunday, 11 February 2007 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

That's a shame, I was really looking forward to C&S. I guess when they get to second albums from artists, we'll have a second-shot with Blue.

― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Sunday, 11 February 2007 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

the Stevie is the worst in the series by a mile

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 11 February 2007 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

oh no really? but zeth is an awesome guy and i liked his ideas about it! aw man...

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 11 February 2007 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

it's like a parody of bad grad-school writing. and anyone who thinks "Sexual Healing" sucks needs to have his ears examined.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 11 February 2007 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

also, factual errors galore: "Tears of a Clown" was a hit in 1970, not 1967; "Master Blaster (Jammin')" appeared a year before Bob Marley died and is therefore not a posthumous tribute, etc.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 11 February 2007 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

Mordy: no second albums from artists. One each only.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 11 February 2007 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: wow.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 11 February 2007 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

No second albums... ever? DAMN.

― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Sunday, 11 February 2007 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

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