Sade: Classic or Dud?

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Yeah, that would be kind of shitty either way imo.

skot gigz - moombah pimpin' (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

err, is Sade really better placed than Diddy to comment on global injustice?
Not saying she can't but I don't really see why that would be a problem if Diddy were to do it.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 08:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I just don't want that song to be any more ~pained superstar narrative~ than it already is.

Tim F, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Stronger Than Pride is such an underrated album. So dreamlike!

skot gigz - moombah pimpin' (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 May 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

The only studio albums I own are Soldier of Love and Love Deluxe (I own the comps though). My parents owned Diamond Life. Can someone give me capsule reviews of the first three?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

'sades first three albums are great and you should hear them all'

-D-40

that will be $75

lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 26 May 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ not googleproofing myself

lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 26 May 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoRAw_bXoYs

^^^this shit

skot gigz - moombah pimpin' (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 May 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^YES. my secret fav. open dj sets w/ that

lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

feels like its about to turn into a banger & never quite does...eternal intro

lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

so it sounds like Stronger Than Pride is the one I should move in now, even though I love the "The Sweetest Taboo-Never As Goood as the First Time" duo more than any children I'll have.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

*move in on

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Move on into rent-controlled Stronger Than Pride.

more horses after the main event (Eazy), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, prob my 2nd fave Sade after Love Deluxe. xp

skot gigz - moombah pimpin' (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

prob definitely

skot gigz - moombah pimpin' (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

rev 100% otm

lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

but that said theres no excuse for not having all of them imho

lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

rev 100% otm

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...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 27 May 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link

There is a lovely Kenny Larkin remix of Give It Up you can find on the Sade remixes collection. It's great. 11 minutes. I just start it over when it's done. Usually don't stop listening until it's time to leave the apt or whatever. Hoping for a gig soon where I can drop it.

Larkin was probably the best Detroit techno artist to do a straight beefing up of the song (as opposed to a Carl Craig style remix that would just use the original track as inspiration or a jumping off point). I mean it's basically just an extended DJ tool version of the song. Not much added. Larkin always sounds so fragile and fussy to me... he sort of fills an archetypal emotional / spacey / gentle Detroit sound for me. Like Craig's More Songs About Food and Revolutionary Art. I guess Craig did it first as Psyche/BFC.

Larkin has his own niche though. I think it's the gratuitous flanging. Give It Up's percussion basically sounds like something Larkin would have arranged minus a kick drum and slower.

Eh, I'm talking out of my ass. Give It Up (Kenny Larkin remix) is just so perfect that it sounds like has to be part of some bigger order of Detroit music...

elan, Friday, 27 May 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay here it is. On one condition: don't listen unless you can play it loud, with bass.

http://www.mediafire.com/?7f23fissujwspnz

elan, Friday, 27 May 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope that's kosher

elan, Friday, 27 May 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

the rabbi says a ok

lebroner (D-40), Friday, 27 May 2011 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean linking... I am serious about my volume diktat

elan, Friday, 27 May 2011 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

alfred you should get all of the first three records. work backwards into them, back in time. you can find most of 'em super cheap, check amazon used marketplace or something.

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 27 May 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I played some sade for some of my students and they wanted to know who it was and they wrote it down in their iphones so they would remember to look for it later

dayo, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link

That house mix of "Give It Up" is A++++ btw

The Reverend, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

what were u up to w/ ur student that u thought sade was an appropriate soundtrack dayo

just sayin, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 08:00 (thirteen years ago) link

that kenny larkin remix is excellent

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 08:03 (thirteen years ago) link

we were playing cards and they wanted something 'light'! I put on steely dan later but it didn't go over as well xp

dayo, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 08:08 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for the Kenny Larkin, could dance to that indefinitely

forest zombie (Vasco da Gama), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

the live DVDs are very nice. smoke some herb, watch it with your lady. the bomb.

― pipecock, Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:26 PM (3 years ago)

smoke weed listen to sade!!!! pipe otfm here

gonna see here at the prudental center on the 25th and do jsut that

Aerosol, Friday, 10 June 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

is pipecock a swizz beatz sock ?

Aerosol, Friday, 10 June 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

for bimble wherever you are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpwKdzOcurI

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, this thin lizzy cover is kinda the shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW8HHw8kpfM

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Sade covering thin lizzy could only be a more deej look if it featured a jacka guest rap and dj quik remix

arachno-misogynist (D-40), Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Love this song.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

What's up with the hipster vogue for Sade these days? I mean, I like Sade somewhat, but I always thought it was basically fuck/dinner-music for yuppies. Like my parents love Sade, for instance. Then all of a sudden a year and a half ago or so my best friend - who's so effortlessly cool it's infuriating - was talking about how Sade is awesome. And I was like, OK, sure, but I didn't quite get where the love was coming from. Is it the (outmoded genre label alert!) trip-hop connection or something?

thewufs, Thursday, 16 June 2011 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link

an unprecedented rise in the number of chill bros

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 June 2011 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I always thought it was basically fuck/dinner-music for yuppies

You shouldn't feel so alone -- thousands of people aver this cliché.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 June 2011 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I know that - in fact, it seemed like the critical consensus/cliche regarding Sade for years. I'm just wondering what instigated the critical reevaluation, and why it came from the cool people. (in other words, non-"bros", heheh.)

thewufs, Thursday, 16 June 2011 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ha i had no idea "still in love with you" was a cover. all three new tracks on the ultimate collection are superb imo.

i don't know how much of a critical consensus it was really, sade's always been revered in dance/hip-hop/r&b/soul circles.

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 07:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I know that - in fact, it seemed like the critical consensus/cliche regarding Sade for years. I'm just wondering what instigated the critical reevaluation, and why it came from the cool people. (in other words, non-"bros", heheh.)

Umm everybody I know who thinks about Sade at all has considered her a great artist since at least stronger than pride, when it was new. I don't think any critical reevaluation has taken place, you just found out that people think she is great.

censored my own brad whitford joke (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 16 June 2011 07:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Same answer: "The day people found out about it"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I know that - in fact, it seemed like the critical consensus/cliche regarding Sade for years. I'm just wondering what instigated the critical reevaluation, and why it came from the cool people. (in other words, non-"bros", heheh.)

― thewufs, Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i don't think what you're describing had anything to do with critical consensus. it's just that dumb 80s & 90s hipsters made an ethos of sneering at anything too smooth, soft or "mainstream." now that it no longer seems cool to do so, hipsters have come around.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I suspect Sade's critical stocks have more to do with whether there's been a new album recently.

Probably the various critical rehabilitations of smooth music (yacht rock et al) would have had a knock-on effect in some circles, esp for people who weren't really around for previous albums. A 21 yr old today would have been 10 when Lovers Rock came out!

Tim F, Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago) link

:o

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

god thanks for putting that into perspective - I still consider LR as a recent album

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

my haircutter, a gorgeous 19-year-old who was born in jamaica and lives in london and who looks a lot like sade, has never heard of her

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Also I don't even remember Lover's Rock making a dent on the radio, whereas I definitely remember Love Deluxe tunes - so it wouldn't surprise me that a lot of people who started paying attention to music in the past 15 years or so might not have been particularly aware of Sade.

c.f. say Janet Jackson whose career only started flying under the radar in about the mid-00s.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 June 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link


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