I was stuck in a group with young (19ish) relatives of a friend at Lollapalooza a couple years ago and they were totally of that 4chan mindset contenderizer is talking about. They were walking around the grounds with swastikas drawn in pen on their chests and loudly letting every female know how bad they wanted to "fuck (their) tight pooper(s)". Our mutual acquantaince went off on them several times about how abhorrent their behavior was, but they just did NOT understand why. We were just "gay fags" that didn't "understand" "humor".
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
this is the groundhog's day of rap threads
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
this is a very good angle
i do keep thinking about 'less than zero' as well though; i mean, it's a pretty old position at the same time as it's an absolutely new one, you know?
― thomp, Friday, May 20, 2011 8:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
my g/f says tyler's lyrics reminds her of brett easton ellis. they both have daddy issues, i guess.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:05 (fifteen years ago)
what was that southern rap song where the guy is having sex with the pregnant woman and he keeps hitting the baby in the head with his penis? anyone remember?
― scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:05 (fifteen years ago)
L than Zero is one of my favorite books and I love Ellis in general. I don't think anything here is that new tbh. It's nothing we haven't heard before it's just that it's extremely direct and being critically lauded to a degree that other stuff like this hasn't. Maybe. You guys have been talking about this for like a year and still haven't figured anything out so I guess that's not going to happen this afternoon. What Contenderizer said does have make sense in a lot of ways. I still don't have to like it but it's not like I can't see where it's coming from. I don't know. I need some coffee.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:08 (fifteen years ago)
Fucking love that Hodgy verse. Really hyped about the new Mellowhype stuff.
― Neil O'Jism (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
'pregnant pussy'?
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ha i meant the costello song but i guess ellis isn't totally irrelevant
― thomp, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
I wondered if you did mean the Costello song! lol
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
well, a book about nihilistic, unruly teenagers in LA...
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
A book that's named after the song. :)
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:14 (fifteen years ago)
it's all been diminishing returns since "Earl Sweatshirt"
i just hope Tyler doesn't become the Lenny Bruce of hate speech
― excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:14 (fifteen years ago)
^ truth bomb
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:15 (fifteen years ago)
oh shit deej already had that angle before i had that angle? damn this thread really is long...
― scott seward, Friday, May 20, 2011 7:04 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ha i just brought it up cuz its lol that it went from an attack on these dudes to a defense
― D-40, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:22 (fifteen years ago)
deej posted this in gun sounds, left brain from OF is in it
warning: vid contains the word "bitches", wolf gang tats, and pj harvey biting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WJFjXtHcy4
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
just when i thought i was out
― pandemic, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:28 (fifteen years ago)
btw i unreservedly love this song
― D-40, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
goon confessions
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:33 (fifteen years ago)
bar 'novacane' this is the closest to a hit odd future or affiliates have produced
― D-40, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:42 (fifteen years ago)
or it will be, i should say /nostradamus
outraged reactions (which is what my post was referring to) are all basically the same - content provoking that reaction was not all uniform, duh
Outraged reactions are not all the same. I think reasonable people can be trusted to judge which outraged reactions are bullshit and which are valid. The suggestion that Marilyn Manson was to blame for Columbine was stupid, people rightly judged it so, and it didn't really hurt his career. On the other hand, the Michael Richards incident didn't trigger too much defense or handwringing, but led to a pretty quick "fuck that guy" response that ended his career. The problem with this situation is that ideally it should trigger the latter reaction, but as a society I guess we're not there yet.
children growing up on a steady diet of first person shooters, vile porn, and internet trolling, what do you expect!?
I expect that maybe they could keep it on 4chan, and adults who should know better shouldn't be helping them have an actual career.
― unmetalled world (wk), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
what the fuck's that kreayshawn off? so great! want to pay $13 for a deluxe version of that.
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:44 (fifteen years ago)
recent tyler tweet:
"Goal accomplished"
http://yfrog.com/gz31132728j
― Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:44 (fifteen years ago)
― D-40, Friday, May 20, 2011 12:32 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
image from tweet if this works, what a charmer
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/scaled.php?tn=0&server=611&filename=31132728.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
― Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
jesus christ
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:47 (fifteen years ago)
you try and write a nice think piece on a dude...
oh i guess it was based on this?
fucktyler Tyler, The CreatorIf The World Ends, My Last Goal Is To Give Megan And Sara Some Dick.
― Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:49 (fifteen years ago)
this guy's twitter is pretty much making this case closed
fucktyler Tyler, The CreatorOMG SHUT THE FUCK UP OMG BITCH AAHH
fucktyler Tyler, The CreatorI WANT TO SOCK THIS BITCH IN HER FUCKING MOUTH FUCK SHUT UP
― Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:50 (fifteen years ago)
clearly not trolling at all
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:51 (fifteen years ago)
remember when hip-hop beef included drive-bys? I never thought anyone could make me think of those days fondly with a sense of nostalgia
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:52 (fifteen years ago)
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, May 20, 2011 2:51 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
what is the distinction you're trying to make? serious question
― Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:53 (fifteen years ago)
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, May 20, 2011 3:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
Who mentioned "vibe" earlier? I am not getting a trolling vibe. Sorry. I appreciate a good troll as much as anyone but not feeling it with this dude. Sorry. Maybe I'm just not getting the "joke" this time.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:54 (fifteen years ago)
or maybe there's no joke to get
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:54 (fifteen years ago)
sometimes, and I say this in full knowledge of the language I am using, you have to call a spade a spade
there's no joke! maybe we define trolling differently.there's a scene in that K article that explains Tyler perfectlyhe's watching an older man push a wheeled cart and yells something like "look at that motherfucker with the walker on wheels!"older guy hears him, stops and stares daggers at tylerTyler looks away and mumbles something about how if dude was fourteen he woulda had his ass kickeddude is a creative, somewhat maladjusted net kiddie looking to rile people up who backs WAY OFF when he's confrontedlike when bruno mars came back with a godhelpme BATTLE RAP, tyler was all "whoa didn't know dude could spit like that"
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:55 (fifteen years ago)
he is screaming shit out of the moving car of the internet. there is no thought. there is no message. he is an idiot.
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
and i believe the children are our future
so basically you agree he is a thoughtless, spineless bully who should really shut the fuck up, but you like his music
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
trolling occurs w/in a persona, aims only to generate a negative reaction, constitutes a childish kind of competitive play. maybe most importantly, is a product of internet culture and exists w/in its rules, aesthetics, ethics. note to lars von trier: does not work well irl.
that aside, fuck tyler
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:57 (fifteen years ago)
DJP: basically yeah!
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
1038 new answers
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
1039
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Friday, 20 May 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
whether "thoughtless, spineless bully who should really shut the fuck up" is a "persona" or not is up for grabs, but when you're being a dick like this, who cares.again, for those who missed this bit a gazillion posts up, in the NYT piece with caramanica, jon talks about tyler throwing a half finished frosty milkshake out the window at some well dressed strangers. you can't do that ironically.
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 May 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
is the irony of contenderizer's last sentence lost on him? I wonder
anyway the "sock the bitch in her mouth" thing dates as far back as he's been on twitter. He used to randomly tweet "Chris Brown Socked That Bitch In Her Mouth" which I always read as transparent trolling and not a celebration of Chris Brown beating Rihanna
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 May 2011 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
now that aside, he's a creative guy, an excellent media manipulator and a pretty interesting musicianbut he's engaging in some pointless dumbfuck behavior and lyricism no doubt
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 May 2011 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
the whole fuck 2dopeboyz war mostly comes down to him submitting tracks to them and they didn't post them cuz they went into their spam.could've just as easily have been my blog!
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 May 2011 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
a man can dream
― contenderizer, Friday, May 20, 2011 2:57 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
thing is, i bet he's not getting negative responses i bet his followers love shit like that and back him up on it
― Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2011 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
aw, gimme some credit
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 May 2011 20:08 (fifteen years ago)
given how quickly he backs down when a guy calls him on his shit, it is certain that his audience is sending him neverending kudos
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2011 20:08 (fifteen years ago)