ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

reddening otm. I think mark r drew a good distinction between the kind of violent lyrics typical to rap and odd future in his piece I linked to

― D-40, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 13:03 (2 hours ago)

did you actually link to it or was yr phone giving w of again

is that a joke?

no, the last time you ref'd it I didn't see the link, maybe I just missed it

ten years from now tyler will be the star of csi:saskatoon or whatever and be beloved by millions. he just needs a good movie deal. nobody cares what you rapped about once you are a movie star. kelly ripa was just telling regis how much she loved her eminem step class the other day. eminem used to be controversial i think? foulmouthed anti-woman defiler of youth. now he's america's adorable lil' grumpy gus.

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did anyone read this
http://pitchfork.com/features/resonant-frequency/7971-resonant-frequency-79/

― D-40, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:05 (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I was just thinking about that in relation to reviewing Snoop tonight. Snoop, Ice-T, Ice Cube, Eminem - all former scourges, now national treasures.

xpost Aw bless, the Poetical Prophets.

reddening otm

scott otm, too. the other night jon stewart showed a clip of some fox commentator pillorying common quickly followed by a clip of him palling around with ice-t.

once upon a time vernon reid was on a CMJ panel to debate amerikkka's most wanted when it was released, somebody said it was a very clever album and he was like "yeah, hitler was a clever motherfucker too"

vernon reid can shred like a motherfucker

so if the tyler album or the earl album had more prosaic backing tracks, same lyrics, and was released on, i dunno, rap-a-lot, this thread wouldn't exist, right? or not in its present form anyway. might get a little interest from ilx rap dudes and then it would go away. gaining a white audience is obviously filled with the promise of riches, but also fraught with the perilous scrutiny of the media elite. nobody cares if you stay in the hood but not in my backyard fella!

there's probably a trenchant tumblr post about that already. i can't read everything! sorry nabisco!

yes, scott - when something is more popular, more people hear it & have opinions on it

if it were an album by the meatmen it also wouldn't be getting a whole lotta play

it's not really a given that a similar album released on Rap-A-Lot would sell significantly less than this is selling

so if the tyler album or the earl album had more prosaic backing tracks, same lyrics, and was released on, i dunno, rap-a-lot, this thread wouldn't exist, right? or not in its present form anyway. might get a little interest from ilx rap dudes and then it would go away. gaining a white audience is obviously filled with the promise of riches, but also fraught with the perilous scrutiny of the media elite. nobody cares if you stay in the hood but not in my backyard fella!

all of this. plus, you know, the hype machine reached a tipping point: major rap stars weighed in, pitchfork weighed in, major journalists weighed in, etc. etc., and suddenly everyone had to have an opinion.

including myself, i bought it and it's among the lesser albums i've heard this year (though several tracks are stellar, in isolation)

i'm not exactly sure what scott's point is. that if the music was different than ppl would be reacting differently? couldn't you say that about practically every artist ever

no, maybe even if the music were the same. different audiences breed different reactions and different scrutiny.

but yeah this is kinda obvious.

you can call me mr.obvious.

if it were an album by the meatmen it also wouldn't be getting a whole lotta play

BURN

i can imagine totally different reactions if the album was on an underground hip-hop label, instead of XL catering to indie kids along with their roster of Radiohead, White Stripes, Adele, Beck, Vampire Weekend, M.I.A., Sigur Rós, Basement Jaxx, Thom Yorke, Titus Andronicus, The Horrors, Gil Scott-Heron, The xx

I'm happy to report tesco vee is staying current tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fJXvgUyE1Y

xp: I can imagine totally different reactions if the album was exactly the same but all of the promo material had Gwen Stefani's harajuku backup dancers cast as the people doing the rapping/production; being able to imagine something doesn't automatically make it a scenario worth exploring.

ilxor you're basically just creating a fantasy world at that point -- if tyler everything involving odd future had played out exactly how it had except for the one difference of 'goblin' being released on anticon instead of xl, i really doubt that there would've been a discernible difference in its sales/acceptance

lol i should've just let dan's post stand

uh i think this particular boulder got pushed down the mountain a long time before tyler signed to xl

i can imagine totally different reactions if the album was on an underground hip-hop label, instead of XL catering to indie kids along with their roster of Radiohead, White Stripes, Adele, Beck, Vampire Weekend, M.I.A., Sigur Rós, Basement Jaxx, Thom Yorke, Titus Andronicus, The Horrors, Gil Scott-Heron, The xx

― solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:51 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, he signed with XL well after they'd begun to share a fanbase with those kinds of artists

four posts in a row calling your point completely idiotic = the ilx version of a grand slam. congrats, ilxor

lol i shoulda just stayed out of the odd future thread huh

http://stayout.ytmnd.com/

in fairness, so should I

so should all of us

*camera pans to the horizon; strings swell*

FIN

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/tyler_sara.jpg

i like that "walking with a ghost" song as much as any odd future song, that song is so good, but i don't know any other tegan and sara

I didn't even know they still existed

i think they've entered that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

three gold records in canada!

this rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HepnmfBkgI

last tegan and sara album in the u.s. according to wiki:

The album debuted at #21 on the Billboard 200, selling 22,665 copies in its first week.[8]

that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

this thread has become a dotty old man muttering vague non-sequiturs in the corner. i for one am glad to see it.

thank you for not calling me out by name.

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did anyone read this
http://pitchfork.com/features/resonant-frequency/7971-resonant-frequency-79/

― D-40, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:05 (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― just sayin, Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:39 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

Probably been discussed to death but wrt to the gun thing, it seems to me he's experiencing some really mild intrusive thoughts. It's definitely not new and I would be more sympathetic to that interpretation if I hadn't seen his twitter, forum posts, formspring, etc.

I think the twitter posts would come after the intrusive thoughts persons to reinforce out

that wiki entry is award winning

lol deej waht

you are a pioneer of the pocket dial posting style

did anyone read this
http://pitchfork.com/features/resonant-frequency/7971-resonant-frequency-79/

just did. fucking great.

very well written. it has to be to make me read about someone in high school. but its really well done. plus, a rock critic playing football, right there i was kinda floored.

This new phone should provide some pretty lol word choices over the next few weeks.

― D40 (D-40), Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:52 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark