Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

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young girls?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 15 May 2011 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

that too actually

that's my hair no horses up there (lex pretend), Sunday, 15 May 2011 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

i think her importance isn't whatever her sexuality is, it's about the audience she actively courts and welcomes into hip-hop

― that's my hair no horses up there (lex pretend), Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:53 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah

please banhammer, don't hurt 'em (The Reverend), Sunday, 15 May 2011 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

you still see dinosaurs out there who try to argue that hip-hop is innately a masculine, male space, and to defend it as such, so to have a rapper specifically pull gay men and girly girls (ie not just eye candy or "one of the boys") into it seems pretty important

that's my hair no horses up there (lex pretend), Sunday, 15 May 2011 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

otm

please banhammer, don't hurt 'em (The Reverend), Sunday, 15 May 2011 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

it's pretty much the opposite of odd future's rejection of anyone who isn't a (specific type of) teenage boy

that's my hair no horses up there (lex pretend), Sunday, 15 May 2011 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

i think it's because despite what she says she portrays herself as 100% straight therefore ppl forget that she claims to be bi

― J0rdan S., Sunday, May 15, 2011 3:52 PM (1 hour ago)

she has multiple verses on hit songs about taking girls home or having a ménage with a male collaborator plus a chick etc. though

suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

also she's pretty openly a kink fest.

whenever the vein was to throb (the table is the table), Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

she has multiple verses on hit songs about taking girls home or having a ménage with a male collaborator plus a chick etc. though

― suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:00 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah but all this does is cement the (straight male) notion that (hot) girls want to mess around w/ each other when she has tons of songs & videos centered around 100% hetero relationships

J0rdan S., Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

thought the same thing initially, but the kind of outreach lex was praising isn't necessarily a contest to be the most straight-male-unfriendly. "it's about the audience she actively courts and welcomes into hip-hop."

contenderizer, Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

i'm not arguing lex's point

J0rdan S., Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but all this does is cement the (straight male) notion that (hot) girls want to mess around w/ each other when she has tons of songs & videos centered around 100% hetero relationships

― J0rdan S., Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

that just sounds like a catch 22 where no matter what she says, you're going to say it plays into what straight people believe or want to believe about bisexuals (or whether they exist etc.). i mean she raps to a chick in the "Lil Freak" video the same way she raps to guys in her other videos.

suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

not that i'm saying she needs to be hailed as a groundbreaker or anything, but it seems like you're just downplaying any small ways she inarguably has broken out of typical female rapper gender roles/sexuality

suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

i'm not arguing lex's point

okay, saw his argument as the hinge around which this was revolving. like, she's relevant to this discussion because...

contenderizer, Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

you still see dinosaurs out there who try to argue that hip-hop is innately a masculine, male space, and to defend it as such, so to have a rapper specifically pull gay men and girly girls (ie not just eye candy or "one of the boys") into it seems pretty important

Missy was the pioneer for this

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 May 2011 00:12 (fifteen years ago)

in my world lots of girly girls loved Missy.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 May 2011 00:12 (fifteen years ago)

lots of girly girls love macho man rap too though

suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Monday, 16 May 2011 00:16 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

I can't make out a word of this shit, but it is amazing.

http://soundcloud.com/le1f/omega

Apparently, he's queer, from New York, and some of his shit (not this track) is produced by Nguzunguzu.

The Reverend, Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

^ amazing is the word. love the seasick worz of beats, like crazy wisdom masters or something. the other self-produced track, "☥ + ☥", is kinda cool, too, but nowhere near as mind-blowing. nguzunguzu & boody b tracks are sick, though. fuckin love this guy.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Sunday, 12 June 2011 23:43 (fourteen years ago)

Loving this.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 13 June 2011 00:11 (fourteen years ago)

I guess kreayshawn belongs in here? "gucci gucci" vid contains hints about her orientation that get explicit in some of her other vids.

or does it not count if she hangs w/ OF dudes

hey, we're dropping it like it is hot! (Edward III), Monday, 13 June 2011 00:16 (fourteen years ago)

His twitter is amazing, also.

http://twitter.com/#!/l31f

"Why couldn't I have been born as Amerie? Not fair"
"if it's about cooking, why isn't it baste god?"
"if i had a pussy i would take it out and clit on em"

he's also producing some tracks on the new spank rock

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 13 June 2011 00:17 (fourteen years ago)

xp http://www.afterellen.com/people/kreayshawn-is-not-a-raging-lesbian-is-an-occasional-lesbian

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 13 June 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

I like "☥ + ☥"'s Gyptian flip.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 13 June 2011 00:20 (fourteen years ago)

wow, totally missed that the fist time through!

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Monday, 13 June 2011 00:33 (fourteen years ago)

those tracks with the symbols for titles aren't gelling for me but i'm really feeling the other stuff

badtz-maruizm (donna rouge), Monday, 13 June 2011 01:18 (fourteen years ago)

freudian slip

xp

hey, we're dropping it like it is hot! (Edward III), Monday, 13 June 2011 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

well yeah, i had other things on my mind

(lol)

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Monday, 13 June 2011 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

L31F Le1f
i'm a top unless he puts on swv.

51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

tweet of the year imo

badtz-maruizm (donna rouge), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ZeYslcGNg&feature=player_embedded

Btw this tumblr is grrrrrrrrreeaat (also where I discovered L1ef from): http://roughdiamondmtl.tumblr.com/

51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 June 2011 07:02 (fourteen years ago)

Katey herself is terrible as a rapper, but everything else about that tracks and video is fantastic

underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have pwned (sic), Saturday, 25 June 2011 08:47 (fourteen years ago)

It's bounce music, it ain't goddamn Rakim.

51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 June 2011 09:07 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah she's on treme I think

the beta banned (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 June 2011 14:40 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah. Rough Diamond are awesome. Glad we have them. Need to find out who they are IRL.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 25 June 2011 21:44 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

i was interviewed briefly for this radio programme that's on 1xtra tonight (9pm british time, which is in three hours) if anyone fancies tuning in: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012kllk

No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Today, 21:00 on BBC 1Xtra

Hip Hop is constantly evolving. Eminem made it possible to be a credible white rapper, Kanye achieved global success despite his privileged background and Nicki Minaj has played on her sexuality to become one of hip hop's biggest stars. But there's still one boundary the genre is struggling to cross. Where are the gay rappers?

Georgia Lewis-Anderson attempts to uncover the truth, following openly gay spoken-word poet Dean Atta as he takes the first steps to becoming an accepted and respected player on the UK hip hop scene, heading into the studio, performing live and getting that all important first play on national radio.

But are fans ready for an openly gay rapper? And will the industry support him?

Georgia also speaks with Plan B, Example, Estelle, Bashy, Mark Ronson and industry insiders from the UK and US to find out why the prospect of there being a gay rapper is such a taboo.

lex pretend, Sunday, 10 July 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

i like that you got the last word! 'go hard; be good'

pity the dean atta track sounded kind of... dull.

do the hypnic jerk (c sharp major), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:50 (fourteen years ago)

L31F Le1f
i'm not getting gay married until i find a twink that likes soulja boy.
8 Jul

bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 11 July 2011 11:11 (fourteen years ago)

L31F Le1f
i want pointe shoes that are also guns.
28 Jun

bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 11 July 2011 11:16 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

what's the status on ab soto. combo quirky street fashion / comedy / rap, cazwellish like from most of what i've heard it's generally too much (or too bad) (because i hate fun) but then i can't hate on for example this. kid's having fun and not the worst beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvGVvGa4cBw

fauxmarc, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:17 (fourteen years ago)

oh, so this is what alfred does in his spare time?

swagliacci (The Reverend), Saturday, 3 September 2011 04:37 (fourteen years ago)

did l31f delete his twitter acct?

zsa zsa and digweed (donna rouge), Saturday, 3 September 2011 07:23 (fourteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/#!/LE1FNY

swagliacci (The Reverend), Saturday, 3 September 2011 07:44 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90V7p0wh5nY

this been posted? pretty stupid to think that gays are the only ones spreading hiv/aids

jaxon, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

can't watch that right now but yeah, duh, that's a long-ago debunked talking point wrt hiv transmission

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:35 (fourteen years ago)

haha yeah i was with him till then

 (gr8080), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:47 (fourteen years ago)

well actually i was with him till he added the red star to his face tat

 (gr8080), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:47 (fourteen years ago)

Better than butterfly face tat imo

jaxon, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:58 (fourteen years ago)

there's no such thing as a "good" face tat

all shitley chess club (some dude), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

oh, so this is what alfred does in his spare time?

not only do I get down, I wash dishes.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 00:02 (fourteen years ago)


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