How deluded am I that I find this album (mostly) remarkably beautiful and more essential than "Aerial"?
― Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 15 May 2011 08:46 (thirteen years ago) link
It's pretty and all, but I really hoped for more dramatic changes. I mean, This Woman's Work has almost become an entirely new song, which might even surpass the original. But all the other tracks stay so close to home that I wonder why she went through all the trouble. They remind me so much of the originals that I can't help comparing and they lose on all accounts. I always hated Rubberband Girl and hoped for a slow impression on solo piano or another acoustic instrument, because that might've improved the song. Now we end up with the exact same monstrosity (well, a little bit more Stones like).
All in all I'm looking more forward to the remaster of the Red Shoes album.
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Sunday, 15 May 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
new version of Moments Of Pleasure = astonishing. although some of the names originally listed (Maureen and Bill) have fallen by the wayside. MOJO has a long piece all about Director's Cut by Keith Cameron and it's bloody great. she says "if people don't like this and they like the old ones, then the old ones are still there aren't they?"
― piscesx, Sunday, 15 May 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I wonder if it would have been better if she had just opted for the rerecording of some old songs. That way it is a bit like what those songs might sound like nowadays if Kate would perform them live. I strongly feel that because she worked with the same recordings these new versions are too much rooted in the originals. I think the main reason why I like the new This Woman's Work so much is because I hardly hear any 'samples' taken from the original.
Regarding the above statement: every artists is entitled to create whatever they want, of course, just as the audience is entitled to think of that whatever they want.
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Sunday, 15 May 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Has anybody seen the Deeper Understanding video? Damn.
― Per Yngve's having his brain out (MaresNest), Sunday, 15 May 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, that wasn't an easy sit through.
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Sunday, 15 May 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
still can't get over how she changed the words to "And So Is Love" so the song is completely different
― katherine, Sunday, 15 May 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
pfork interview today
http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/7968-kate-bush
― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 16 May 2011 07:43 (thirteen years ago) link
it's weird she's donig so much promotion for this project and she was like completely absent when arial came out.
― akm, Friday, 13 May 2011 01:08 (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^^ so weird
― just sayin, Monday, 16 May 2011 08:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Probably because this project needs the extra push, whereas Ariel didn't.
― Mark G, Monday, 16 May 2011 08:29 (thirteen years ago) link
aerial
― wacky onassis (get bent), Monday, 16 May 2011 08:31 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.ny.starliteprincessparties.com/img/Ariel.jpg
― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 16 May 2011 08:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Oriole.
― Mark G, Monday, 16 May 2011 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link
The new 'Deeper Understanding' cut is so bad it makes me angry. And so sad that I'm completely disheartened to try this album even.
I also can't come to grips with the whole 'aura' around this album, which merely seems to be "I thought it be cool to just, y' know, try this", "There's always the old versions" etc... From a woman who's always been so forward thinking and avant-garde in terms of creativity.
I just don't know what the hell this is supposed to be. Off to read the PF interview, hope it clarifies some things...
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 May 2011 09:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I see *all* of her albums are re-released, with nary a mention of EMI on the packaging.
― Mark G, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link
are they? only The Red Shoes is being remastered though.
― piscesx, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Only The Dreaming through The Red Shoes to my knowledge; of which only the last one is remastered. Another mystery decision. There are excellent Japanese remasters available of all these albums, so why stick to those crummy eighties' editions?
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
The new 'Deeper Understanding' cut is so bad it makes me angry
Be assured that the terrible robo-voice only occurs on that track. All the other material is harmonically sound. But yeah, if she wanted to visit old stuff - most artists do it all the time on stage - why taking this road? Can you imagine some intimate live versions of these songs with only Kate on piano (or a sparse backing ensemble)? Bring it on!
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i do hate to say it but her taste is hit or miss these days it seems. deeper understanding is .... ALMOST good? but the production of her voice is not what it should be at all. and she is not helping the nasal quality in her voice. it's too bad.
the new momnts of pleasure is pretty cool though, especially the humming.
― j lol (surm), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I derive some hope from your assurance that the robo-voice is only on that track, Sebastian, so thank you for that ~ I'll give it a dedicated shot. Bang on about the rest, I could think of several ways that would make for way more interesting 're-interpretations' of her old work. Gladly that is not up to me, but I do think it's an unfortunate choice.
Psyched I most definitely am about the actual new album that is coming out.
xp
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Pitchfork actually has a fairly good interview herehttp://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/7968-kate-bush/
― Stay Puft Daddy (kelpolaris), Monday, 16 May 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
and Kate takes the slight-troll of "what was the logic behind that?", regarding removing instrumental sections, surprisingly well. I mean it's nuts to think that no matter what Kate is quite clearly proud of most anything she does... imo, I like that about her.
― Stay Puft Daddy (kelpolaris), Monday, 16 May 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
the new version of "this woman's work" is ridiculously pretty. if nothing else the project is worth it for that, still waiting for the other songs to sink in. i have no problem with the new version of deeper understanding, i like it, but don't love it.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 16 May 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I've listened to the album through three or four times now and I think that is enough, but, TWW is really good. The rest is either bad or just kind of...sits there.
― akm, Monday, 16 May 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
As one of the few stalwart defenders of The Red Shoes (not a great album but a more than respectable stab at adult contemporary; and wtf I love "Rubberband Girl"), I'm still scratching my head about the point of this project.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i love deeper understandingnot sure what you guys don't like
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Nice Irish Times interview from a couple of weeks ago, ends with this quote:
It was never my intention to go so long without touring. I have no plans to tour at the moment, but I’d like to think that I would again some day. I’ll never say never.
Also, has anyone seen the bizarre TV ad for the new record? Robbie Coltrane being smothered by CGI blobs coming out of his computer...
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 20 May 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
SFJ piece forthcoming in the newyorker i think
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 May 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:28 (2 days ago) Permalink
her voice sounds like shit on it. that song is written SO WELL - it's like, the original is pretty good, but to be given the opportunity to redo it - i expect something perfect.
― j lol (surm), Friday, 20 May 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
oh right that ad is taken from the Deeper Understanding video I see (xposts to myself).
so SFJ is still writing for the new yorker as well as doing The Daily? glad to hear it, and look forward to reading that.
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 20 May 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I may have misunderstood who he was writing the bush piece for.I had not heard this song prior and was not aware it was a remake.
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 May 2011 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link
sfj still writes for the nyer
― just sayin, Saturday, 21 May 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i know; he just did that tuneyards piece. Just not sure who the bush piece is for.
― crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 May 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Did this get linked somewhere?
Kate Bush writing new album - Singer to follow Director's Cut with first batch of original songs since 2005http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/may/27/kate-bush-writing-new-album
― immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:19 (thirteen years ago) link
It was already known, strikes me as a bit odd that the Graun is selling this as hot news.
Mad excited nonetheless
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe I'd missed it but I hadn't seen the rumours backed up by hard evidence before.
― immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Really am enjoying the remaster of The Red Shoes. I always thought that album sounded flat and unpleasantly harsh. Detonating with the layered sound Kate is known for. This new analogue remaster lifts the album straight into Kate's realm. The drums and percussion are warm and deep, and the bass is energetic and bouncy. Kate and band are really standing in your living room now. The album used to sound cluttered but now everything that's going on in the background - which is a lot; classic Kate - has room to breathe and excel. This has become an entirely new album for me.
It has also been remixed a little. For some reason Big Stripey Lie has a fadeout now; omitting the sound of a rattling drum computer coming to a halt. This is a pity. But Eat the Music seems to have gained some extra layers of background vocals, making the song better and richer (although those extra layers might've always been there, impossible to be discerned before due to the crappy production).
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Saturday, 11 June 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
The beautiful rework of "Moments Of Pleasure" still chokes me up. Especially when the humming choir comes in. Man. I still really love "Director's Cut".
― Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 27 August 2011 06:20 (twelve years ago) link
Agreed. I think it's a terrific record. Production is fabulous.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 27 August 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
New album :
http://www.katebush.com/news/kate-release-brand-new-album-50-words-snow-november
― ***** (SeekAltRoute), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.katebush.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/normal_size/wysiwyg_imageupload/1/50Small.jpg
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link
Yesssssssssss!!!
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link
“50 Words For Snow” will feature seven brand new tracks set against a background of falling snow. The total running time is 65 minutes and the track listing is:
SNOWFLAKELAKE TAHOEMISTYWILDMANSNOWED IN AT WHEELER STREET50 WORDS FOR SNOWAMONG ANGELS
Seven songs, 65 minutes... *drools*
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:56 (twelve years ago) link
Excited by the news, but eww at the cover.
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:56 (twelve years ago) link
Surely this is deserving of a new thread?
― Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link
christ: the last six years have gone fassssst
― all the small zings (history mayne), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:15 (twelve years ago) link
It's a winter album, then.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link
WILDMAN
As done by Wild Man Fischer?
― Mark G, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:34 (twelve years ago) link
No reworked version of "December Will Be Magic Again"?
― Jeff W, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link