Henry Rollins/Black Flag

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I almost bought that record so many times and now I'm real curious about what it sounds like

maybe age has transformed it into some unheralded classic

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

If you need some background.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

i must've just seen it in record stores a lot in the early 90s, and thought that "Live From Van Nuys" was a great name for a record. kind of doubt it's a classic but ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h5xuNVuVE

tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

was just about to post that!

man ppl were really jamming out to painted willie

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

guy wearing his own band's shirt NAGL

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

maybe if like you'd never heard...like...any hard rock band ever or something they would be good?

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

lol, yeah, maybe not an unheralded classic. something impressively unspectacular about them though. like kind of archetypal mid-80s socal garage band.

tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

maybe after you've heard every hard rock band ever, and your great all-knowing mind tires, maybe that's when you turn to painted willie

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

we should do a poll for worst second wave SST band, DC3, painted willie, tom troccoli's dog, october faction, etc

painted willie might win and that would be something

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

maybe ginn made them keep all the weed in the painted willie van?

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Painted Willie then embarked on a six-month national tour opening for Gone and Black Flag in 1986, which would be Black Flag's last tour. The band recorded and released the Live from Van Nuys EP during that tour live EP during the tour titled simply Live From Van Nuys. Dave filmed eight years of footage for an eventual documentary of the tour that would be called Reality 86'd but Ginn didn't want it to be released. Black Flag singer Henry Rollins tried to have it released in 1994 through a distribution deal he struck with Time Warner but Ginn still refused.[3][5]

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

8 years of footage! I had no idea 1986 lasted that long

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

ginn's weed made things seem crazy long back then.

tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

there's a good band name: Ginn's Weed

tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

don't overlook how terrible gone sounds in that video, made my ears pinch my nose and say "p.u."

am0n, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nnxeaxhfJ5w/TYfh1RO66eI/AAAAAAAAFTI/5yjZJJzNGgM/s400/no-age.jpg
downloaded this a month or so ago thinking it'd be so rad, but it is kind of terrible! see for yourself: http://luckypsychichut.blogspot.com/2011/03/no-age-compilation-of-sst-instrumental.html

tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

"this is awful. you've got to try it"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

totally shitty. yr gonna love it.

tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

the food is terrible, and such small portions

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

The Food Is Terrible, and Such Small Portions: The Best of Painted Willie

tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

This milk's gone sour, smell it.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

wnkiw these people/bands

(lol @ the punk rock drum circle though)

adult music person (Jordan), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, ""Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey" was deleted at 1:49:29 Mon May 23, 2011. Vimeo has removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by Greg Ginn claiming that this material is infringing: "Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey. We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere.

am0n, Monday, 23 May 2011 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

how long before it gets yanked or does ginn not care anymore

― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:49 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

2 weeks apparently

oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

I just read an interview with markey, like, last week about this, c/r where it was

oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

oh here it is

http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/2011/05/20/rettsounds-reality-86d/

oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

that ibanez he played during that period sounded horrible

am0n, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere, nothing came up on search.

Black Face - Dukowski teams up with Eugene Robinson to play some unreleased Chuck-written BF material and choice Flag tunes, Ginn nearly involved at one point, I'm excited!

http://www.viceland.com/music/2011/08/chuck-dukowski-from-black-flag-has-a-new-band-with-eugene-robinson/

solfege made me schizophrenic (MaresNest), Friday, 5 August 2011 10:53 (fourteen years ago)

Eugene posted this on the Supersonic FB page yesterday. I'm hoping there's a reason why.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Saturday, 6 August 2011 14:23 (fourteen years ago)

four years pass...

So Kira won an oscar for sound mixing Mad Max last night. I had no idea:

http://www.stereogum.com/1862449/former-black-flag-bassist-wins-an-oscar-for-mad-max-fury-road/news/?utm_source=sc-fb&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign

Darin, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 00:02 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

http://i.imgur.com/hcjnZrV.jpg

calstars, Friday, 8 April 2016 22:52 (ten years ago)

I just saw that picture being used in an ad for Vans shoes the other day. Maybe this is also part of that campaign.

JRN, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:02 (ten years ago)

of course it is

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:06 (ten years ago)

Just performing my dirty duty as a consumer

calstars, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:42 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

anyway reason i was searching for rollins is bc i was wondering if anyone has more info on this

According to Rolling Stone magazine, after Cole's death, hundreds of hours of interviews Cole had taped with "flamboyant street characters" in Venice Beach were edited into an hour of "primo footage" that the magazine described as "an unflinching look at the American dream gone amok."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Joe_Cole

rly interested in listening to those interviews by joe cole but cldnt find anything on the web

infinity (∞), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:06 (eight years ago)

search 'god's movie'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhGxVfh9lag

how's life, Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:13 (eight years ago)

from the vid description

A few segments from Joe Cole's "God's Movie", an unfinished documentary series documenting the street people of Venice Beach. This was shot in 1990 by Joe and myself, and I help out with the some of the interviews. This was originally released in a longer form as "God's Movie Volume 1" on VHS by Henry Rollins' 2-13-61, and has been long out of print. I am more than glad to share a few moments of this work with you here. Joe was shot and killed in a robbery a little more than a year after this. I miss him to this day and it is great to hear his voice here. If you like this I suggest searching for "How Much Longer" posted on Google Video, a video documentary I did with Joe all about the Desert Storm Victory Parade in Hollywood, 1991.

how's life, Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:15 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

Amazing anecdote on the newest Henry & Heidi podcast about Hank being pressed into service by Sharon Osbourne at the famous Sabbath reunion gigs.

She asked him to help with an EPK and interview people backstage, so he goes over to interview Brian May and after they film the segment May says to him "by the way, I just want you to know, Freddie loved Black Flag"!!!!

https://youtu.be/G1hx4Ajnhiw?t=42m4s

MaresNest, Monday, 21 January 2019 18:22 (seven years ago)

Bullshit

everything, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:16 (seven years ago)

five years pass...

I see "Black Flag" is playing in Baltimore in August. Is this Greg Ginn and 3 to 4 others? There's a mention of "First 4 years" 1983 comp that included pre-Henry stuff , on the Ottobar website. Will that be the musical focus?

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 March 2024 17:58 (two years ago)

https://x.com/hearinladotcom/status/1746282064192884916?s=46&t=u2ZSlsY3trRV36IPP6jNDQ

Black Flag’s 2024 lineup consists of founding guitarist Greg Ginn, singer Mike Vallely, who first appeared with the band as a guest in 2003 and became the band’s fifth vocalist in 2014,

and a rhythm section of Harley Duggan and Charles Wiley (both from Seattle band DARKHORSE RISING).

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 March 2024 18:03 (two years ago)

That would be a nice subtle bit of graffiti if someone added quotation marks on the posters for that show.

birdistheword, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:04 (two years ago)

I've seen some youtube footage of recent Black Flag, and I would steer pretty clear of that tbh

Colonel Poo, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:23 (two years ago)

Gonna skip it.

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 March 2024 20:21 (two years ago)

EVERYONE SHOULD LSITEN TO RAY PETTIBONE'S NEW BAND ITS SO GOOD

https://surdrone.bandcamp.com/album/full-length-2

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 8 March 2024 21:07 (two years ago)

sitting at the bar at a restaurant near my neighborhood and it’s crowded on a monday. realize the music venue across the street has the Black Flag (“black flag”?) show in an hour and, outside of two tables of people obviously going to it, I am trying to puzzle out the rest of the people in here

are the dudes in their 50s waiting around in the entryway here for the band? is there another event nearby? a mystery

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:09 (two years ago)

seven months pass...

I wrote about why the final Black Flag albums are the best Black Flag albums. (No, I don't mean that 2013 thing.)

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 15:40 (one year ago)

I really enjoyed that write-up, thanks. I agree, those are the albums I'm most drawn to (though I'd really like Ginn to fuck off so these could be properly reissued so I could have copies of my own).

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 16:35 (one year ago)

SST has been doing a fairly ok job of repressing its wares of late, tbh

Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 17:10 (one year ago)


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