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like a rock

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

wow that sucks

― corey c (shock of daylight), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

>Chuck to thread. Even though I know he hates that phrase. <

Um, I was here. I think people kinda already know what I think (same thing lots of others here might think): It's great that some of the stuff is resurfacing, but Seger will not be able to claim the Greatest Rock'n'Roll Album in the History of the Universe Award until all his early mid '60s to mid '70s punk rock singles are compiled in one place (and probably some tracks like "Lucifer" or "U.M.C." that may never have been actual singles per se'; I dunno, I'm too lazy to check now.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ps) The couple Underdogs tracks I've heard on compilations were really good. And that second Romantics LP (with "Tomboy" and "Stone Pony" and "21 and Over") is great; up there with *Outburst* by the Nomads as one of the best '60s-garage-style album of the '80s, and head and tails above the Romantics' other albums (which aren't bad.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I know Lucifer was a single bcz I own it. What a great track - rocking, soulful, impassioned and supercatchy like all the best Seger. 2+2= is my fave though (and it has diff. mono/stereo mixes with extra gtr dubs on one of them.)

Someone was telling me about a clip they'd seen of Seger doing Ramblin' Gamblin' Man on TV w/him switching between gtr and organ on the verses and choruses. I'd love to see that.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I just bought Mongrel on GEMM. Is my world going to be ROCKED or what?

― Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, there was the briefest -- five seconds, maybe -- of early Seger clips in his Hall of Fame induction film last year. VH1 Classic to thread!

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

but what about "hollywood nights" (a lovely guitar progression from which is currently looped in a country radio hit by somebody, but i haven't figured out who yet), "still the same," and "feel like a number," rickey? i agree *night moves* is better than *stranger in town,* but not *that* much better...the slippage is pretty slight!

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

oops; wrong seger thread - meant to post that here (and, redundantly, i will):

Bob Seger's "Night Moves": C or D

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I went on an early out-of-print Seger download spree last night, managed to find 3 or 4 of the first 7. I was surprised that I knew a number of the songs, I guess living in Michigan in the 70s they'd play occasional "regional hits" on the radio. Bob was really pushing his voice to the limit in those days.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I will buy this. Is there any other artist of Seger's stature whose catalog is in such disarray?

― brianiac (briania), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone got $150 for a sealed CD of "Mongrel" still in the long box?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4723111324&rd=1

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Seger will not be able to claim the Greatest Rock'n'Roll Album in the History of the Universe Award until all his early mid '60s to mid '70s punk rock singles are compiled in one place

Would something like this qualify?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4726135862&rd=1

It seems to be a pretty obvious boot. Is there really a "Hall of Fame" records in Europe?

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone got $5 for a nice vinyl copy of "Mongrel"?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4725110613&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

screw CDs.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but I can't listen to records in the car, and that's where I do most of my listening these days, thanks to a 2hr/day commute.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

But still $5 for a nice vinyl copy seems like a great deal.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

That's how much I paid for a nice vinyl copy of the "Ramblin Gamblin Man" LP at the WFMU record fair.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

You can always find cheap vinyl copies of mongrel, and ramblin' gmablin on vinyl cuz they made them into the 80's. Noah is hard to find though. and pricier. same with brand new morning.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was gonna say, why the fuck would somebody pay $150 for a CD reissue of an early '70s album that you could find a used copy for a few bucks if you just went to a few flea markets or used record stores? Because the CD is, like, "the real" reissue or something? That's completely moronic....it makes no sense at all.

(xp)

The Hall of Fame comp that o.nate linked to looks great, but is missing a lot of tracks that i'd consider mandatory (lucifer, back in '72, u.m.c., ramblin gamblin man, rosalie, etc). A couple times on this board I've mentioned a vinyl bootleg best of seger's early years album i passed up at sam's jams in ferndale (which had a big pile of them) sometime in the early '80s, because i was to cheap to shell out 15 bucks or whatever. easily the dumbest missed record purchase of my life, and the last few times i checked, there was no evidence on the internet that such a record had ever even existed (assuming i didn't dream it in the first place, which is seeming more and more like a possibility, the older i get.) (i think it *may* have been on "seeds and stems records," also responsible for the legedary *michigan rocks* compilation, but maybe not.)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

holy crap, cameo/parkway reissues! pigs do fly!

time to sell off those ? and the mysterians boots!!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(my point isn't just vinyl vs. CD; it's original vs. reissue. i mean, i'm no record collector, and i hardly pay more than a couple bucks for any record, ever, but if i were to pay a ton, i think getting a reissue of an old album would make me feel completely ripped off!)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

was it this one, chuck:

http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=2597702098

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Super-Cool Cover

well hell, that *is* a super-cool cover! why did he ever grow a beard?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe! that actually looks pretty familiar, scott!! (though in my rose-colored memory it has more early '70s stuff on it, of course!)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

That's weird. If you search for "mongrel seger" on ebay, that LP scott points to above doesn't come back in the results. Stupid computers.

― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

(i don't understand buying "sealed" old records, either, though! i mean, how long is it gonna stay sealed? two minutes after i get it?)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Buying "sealed" means it "should be" in good shape when you opened it.

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

oh okay...but then two minutes after my shitty-ass dusty-garage-sale-vinyl-readied stylus gets to it, the "good shape" is kinda of a moot point, too!

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear ya on that. On the other hand, sealed rekkids are most useful to collectors, who'll never break the sacred shrink wrap just so they can brag about having a mint "No New York" or "Back In '72."

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the only possible reason I can think of that someone would pay $150 for a CD in a sealed long box. Once you open the long box, the value is going to drop by about $140.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

chuck, why don't you get a nice new record player with a new needle? you're a music critic, right?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

people pay a lot of money for out of print CDs. It's crazy to me, but what the hell. That recent thread on this very topic was funny. $300 on Ebay for music from the Airwolf t.v. show on cd! But i guess if you think you can't find it and really need it... the idea of CD "collectors" is weird to me.Cuz all they have to do is put the damn thing IN PRINT again and your friggin' CD is worthless. There are only so many first pressings of records.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I am very clueless anyway about how much my vinyl is worth; I even always forget *No New York* (or modern dance or germ free adolescents or those rhythim is rhythm 12-inchs etc) is hard to find, since to me it's just been on my shelf for decades. A No NY copy at ebay is at $20 now; will it go much higher? (eventually i may have to think about this kinda thing, now that kids' college tuition is an issue.)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4726134005&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i only end up with valuable lps and cds by accident. i sold a john cage thing on folkways for like $200 but i got it for $2 and had no idea how much it was worth.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

>chuck, why don't you get a nice new record player with a new needle? <

I did, late last year, when my old turntable completely stopped working! But all I play on it is used vinyl I find, usually, so the needle doesn't stay "new" long. And that sounds perfectly fine to me! I'm not gonna replace it every couple months; I have better things to spend money on, and it wouldn't make a difference to me anyway. I've never been an audiophile at all. Audiophiles are nuts.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

This copy of "No New York" went for $35, and it seems to be in worse condition than the one currently at $20:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4719563460&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

the idea of CD "collectors" is weird to me.Cuz all they have to do is put the damn thing IN PRINT again and your friggin' CD is worthless

That's true, but if you're talking about something like the Airwolf soundtrack, the chance of that coming back into print must be pretty close to nil, so it's a pretty safe investment for a collector.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, I guess I should look at that CD-collector thread, but one question I have about CD collecting is whether promo versions of CDs are worth a lot more than the actual CDs if the promos are in not in plain white covers with black lettering, but rather, in actual full-colored covers that are *different* from the ones on the CDs. My copy of the first Hanson CD is like that -- it has a cover, but it looks nothing like the one in the stores. (This only happened *very* rarely in vinyl days, as I recall -- like, I think there was a Herman Brood album once or something. Unless you count those Skynyrd/GnR things where covers *changed.*) The new Deana Carter and Shelly Fairchild promos are like that too (and come to think of it, my copy of the *first* Deana Carter has a *hologram* cover! I wonder if that is rare!) Plus there are all those weird, thin, SST promo versions in odd black and white covers with photos on them. Will those be worth lots of $$$ someday? Or does nobody give a shit? I'm slightly curious.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually $300 is awfully cheap for that Airwolf soundtrack, according to this webpage:

http://www.airwolfthemes.com/awtworldrecord.html

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

But on the other hand, with vinyl albums, aren't there lots of them where the copies where it says "promo" on the label (Metal Machine Music for instance, I think somebody told me once) are worth way less than actual store-released versions, just because way more promos were sent out than copies that wound up in stores? Collectors probably take this stuff for granted, but like I said, I am clueless.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

what the hell is "airwolf"?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a bad '80s TV show - a rip off of the movie "Blue Thunder".

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

was the soundtrack especially interesting??

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, is Seger's early stuff on the Airwolf soundtrack?

― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

was the soundtrack especially interesting??

I don't recall it being anything special, but that was a long time ago.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost -
Haha- sorry for the thread derail.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I never even heard of Blue Thunder! (But Bob Seger did sing about thunder in "Night Moves," so there you go.)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Airwolf vs. Blue Thunder

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.fullofwishes.info/galaxie/dbimages/g500_bluethunder.jpg

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the coolest promos i have is a vinyl radio promo from 1978 on orange vinyl of live elvis costello, nick lowe & rockpile, and mink deville. one side is capitol with the capitol label and one side is columbia with the columbia label! i've never heard of that happening again. a split 12 inch with two big labels like that. my brother had one when i was a kid and i found one in a thrift store years ago.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

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lol I ask b/c I bought the 45, I also have the Heavy Music 45, happy to send over rips to compare

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 6 July 2023 04:38 (two years ago)

in that case, you have the real deal

― mookieproof, Thursday, 6 July 2023 04:44 (two years ago)

btw I listened to this thing today and yr version totally rules, I think there are extra tracks? love it

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 6 July 2023 04:46 (two years ago)

was just listening to the original version a few days ago, so seeing this revival with an upgraded version is a very welcome treat.
ta muchly for this mookieproof.

― mark e, Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

It truly is amazing that this thread is arguably the center of the best actual 'reissuing' of this period of his work, given his stature. Though per unperson's post seems like it's being partially redressed, but what are the sources they're using?

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:37 (two years ago)

I've only bought one of their releases, but their reputation is pretty solid, I think. They do a lot of obscure late 60s/early 70s titles from major labels' catalogs, kinda like what Wounded Bird used to do but with much nicer packaging.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:40 (two years ago)

Seems like whenever Seger is asked in interviews why his early stuff isn't more widely available, he says something like "Punch doesn't think it's that important, and whatever Punch says, goes."

― henry s, Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:53 (two years ago)

xxxpost dear birdistheword: a helpless friend (not me, I swear) really digs the mono "RGM" except tone arm x dead air don't suit playlist he's making, wants to know if you or anybody can rec. a transfer on YouTube w/o dead air (cos he can't be arsed to find it himself, so I'm enabling/passing along request, thanks for your consideration and the link above, which is fine with me).

― dow, Friday, 7 July 2023 02:56 (two years ago)

How about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jniips1Icxo

― birdistheword, Friday, 7 July 2023 03:46 (two years ago)

Great, thanks again bird!

― dow, Friday, 7 July 2023 17:53 (two years ago)

You're welcome!

― birdistheword, Friday, 7 July 2023 19:48 (two years ago)

I am listening to this again, it still rules

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 7 July 2023 19:49 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Bob Seger live at the John Sinclair Freedom Rally December 10th 1971, Crisler Arena Ann Arbor, Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgmVG28t2ps

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 09:11 (one year ago)

six months pass...

all this Seger talk makes me want this mystical comp.

― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Monday, 27 October 2025 01:47 (seven months ago)

there’s a youtube version of the playlist here

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYAuZTf3j7nWixvtaqbZne-g8mMtOPODk&si=ZnzB9TI2TzY-ptQb

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 October 2025 03:03 (seven months ago)

I heard "Hollywood Nights" (one of my favorites by anyone) at a pizza / taproom place tonight and was admiring how it took Seger out of his usual mode of storytelling (blue collar, man-to-man) and put a guy way in over his head in a new place.

― the way out of (Eazy), Monday, 27 October 2025 04:44 (seven months ago)

re-up of the 'updated' version posted here

― mookieproof, Monday, 27 October 2025 22:57 (seven months ago)

RIP to beloved ilxor Myonga Von Bontee :(

― sleeve, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 01:48 (seven months ago)

indeed

― mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 01:53 (seven months ago)

Loved that guy, even though I only knew him from this borad. RIP.

― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 01:56 (seven months ago)

RIP and then some, what a good sort and what an impact!

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 19:51 (seven months ago)

damn, so sorry to hear of myonga's passing — did not know him except for here, but he always seemed like a great person.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 20:20 (seven months ago)

oh no. so sorry to hear :(

― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 21:11 (seven months ago)

rip mvb :'(

― budo jeru, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 21:14 (seven months ago)

Through the Kim Mitchell thread, I just found out that MVB was from Owen Sound, Ontario, where I had a truly profound drug experience as a teenager and have always wanted to return to as a result.

― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 November 2025 13:44 (seven months ago)

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