Modern Brazil - s/d

anybody listening to the new Ceu album?

I'm curious about it, but have not heard it yet. Not that I was wowed by her prior one, but it wasn't bad.

Yeah I only felt the need to download one of the tracks from the last album. I'm 11 tracks into this one (out of 13), and it's pretty good!

Nobody here into Curumin?

i am now!

i actually have a song by Otto ona comp, it's an intensely moody tribute to Bob Marley and it really rolls, i've liked it for years.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:10 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark

^^^^
Listening to this great track, "Bob", right now: I have it on a comp too, What's Happening in Pernambuco, which is great throughout -- but I don't think this was out in 2003, so what comp do you have it on?

I had no idea it was about Marley.

I believe Curumin is still to make his best album, but I really like the other two

Curumin was appearing in Central Park (summerstage) NYC with Juana Molina Wednesday night. Alas, I'm in DC and no gig here

Has anyone listened to the new Céu album? Sounds to me like a dub version of a Brightblack Morning Light record with some Brazilian textures - obviously. I think sometimes her music lacks punch, but it's a good album overall.

ed mottas that bad?

No, but I can't say he does outstanding work.

You're so 2 weeks ago, Shin

hahaha, I really am.

this guy in NYT wrote nice things about her
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/arts/music/23ceu.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=c%C3%A9u&st=cse

Orquestra Contemporânea de Olinda,from Northeast Brazil is touring the US now with its rock meets frevo(Brazilian brass band) meets ska sound

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/arts/music/03atrium.html

,Apr 1 2010 8:00P
LINCOLN CENTER - NEW YORK New York, New York
Apr 3 2010 10:00P
SOB´S - NEW YORK NEW YORK, New York
Apr 5 2010 6:00P
KENNEDY CENTER - WASHINGTON Washington, Washington
Apr 6 2010 8:00P
RUMBA - CHICAGO Chicago, Illinois
Apr 7 2010 8:00P
PERCUSSION AND BRASS WORKSHOP IN NEW ORLEANS New Orleans, Louisiana
Apr 8 2010 8:00P
workshop Maciel Salú, Tiné and SHOW in New Orleans New Orleans, Louisiana
Apr 9 2010 8:00P
HEINEKEN TRANSATLANTIC Miami, Florida
Apr 16 2010 9:00P
AUDITÓRIO IBIRAPUERA - SP São Paulo, São Paulo
Apr 17 2010 9:00P
Teatro - OI FUTURO IPANEMA Rio de janeiro, Rio de Janeiro
Apr 18 2010 8:00P
Teatro - OI FUTURO IPANEMA Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro

Here's a youtube of 'em. The Washington DC show Monday night is actually from 6 to 7 and is free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXMj4VQ3-_E

I'm looking forward to seeing them tonight.

http://festivalbrazil.southbankcentre.co.uk/

Anybody see anything in this fest?

I want to again mention that Maria Rita is great. I don't quite get the neglect. Maybe she's too simple? Anyway, she's certainly not in the tropicalia vein, and she's not doing crazy electronic/metal/atonal mashups, so that may contribute to a lack of interest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/06/arts/music/06latin.html?ref=music

I confess that I have never previously heard of Ivete Sangalo, Brazil's biggest pop star, who just sold out a show at Madison Square Garden in NYC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PMRrt8Wwbw&feature=fvsr

I'm trusting the word of Jon Pareles, from the NY Times, that she's the biggest current Brazilian pop star.

The encore part must have been great.

I liked that more than I expected to. Why haven't any of our local Brazilian experts mentioned this person before (or have they)?

Sangalo is definitely "not my beach" as they say in Brazil. Her tinny rhythms and shrill voice used to get right on my nerves when I was over there.

I did an ILX search of posts with "Sangalo" and the only mentions that came up were when someone posted a list of Latin Grammy nominees (they have a Brazilian category).

I Like Margareth Menezes who appeared onstage for the encore part.Below is how Pareles described it in the NY Times:

She brought her whole staff onstage along with Margareth Menezes and Netinho, fellow Bahian singers. With her band somehow picking up cues amid the crowd, she vaulted through a half-dozen carnival songs, full of references to the streets and neighborhoods of Bahia’s capital, Salvador, with the whole arena singing along. Even in New York she was playing to a home crowd.

Why haven't any of our local Brazilian experts mentioned this person before (or have they)?

because she's crap. I really don't see anything interesting in her, musically speaking

I only listened to two songs. I don't hear how her voice is shrill, it sounds fine to me. I somehow didn't really feel drawn in to the songs rhythmically, but couldn't put my finger on why. She seems fine to me, but nothing to get excited about, although now that I know there is local hate for her I want to hear more to see if I actually like her. I don't think she's more boring than Céu.

now that I know there is local hate for her I want to hear more to see if I actually like her

good luck

I don't think she's more boring than Céu

Céu is not boring. She's got a fantastic 2nd album. And I think it's hard to compare her to Ivete since they're very different from each other apart from the fact both are Brazilians

Tulipa Ruiz - Do Amor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCz3Qrl2n8g

Luisa Maita is touring the US. She's got a bossa-pop vocal style

Both are from a new wave of female singers from São Paulo which also includes Céu

That Tulipa Ruiz song is nice. I like her voice and the minimal accompaniement. Thanks

Luisa Maita did a nice show in DC the other night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Wfrtzkolc&feature=youtu.be&a

Anybody else but me here see her on her US tour? She was impressive

New record from one of my favorite contemporary Brazilian artists: Romulo Fróes. Free and legal download: http://www.4shared.com/file/_jKJVKTc/Um_Labirinto_Em_Cada_Pe.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Kn_32Ddio

that's awesome. has a classic ECM vibe

Yeah, thank you, this is great! Track with Arnaldo Antunes reminded me to seek out some of his earlier stuff too. Any other suggestions?

Cool...title means "A labyrinth in each foot"

Track with Arnaldo Antunes reminded me to seek out some of his earlier stuff too.

Froes' ou Antunes's?

*or... of course

Didn't switch properly to English yet

Do you have suggestions for earlier material from either?

Sorry, meant Antunes. But yes ^^^ would love both.

Jaxon, dumb question from me--what classic ECM stuff has a samba flavor like this?

hmm. it wasn't nec the samba flavor that struck me as ecm. it was a bit of the production and iciness. some of the sax in the background plays melodies i associate w/the label.

as far as brazilian stuff, i don't know TONS of his material, but check out Nana Vasconcelos. i know he has some records on the label. the stuff of his i do know is CoDoNa with don cherry and Collin Walcott. pretty amazing and kinda just mashes all sorts of different cultures music together.

something like this i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKijsVbOxlU

Romulo Fróes' previous album 'No Chão Sem o Chão' is great. Way more interesting than 'Um Labirinto em Cada Pé'. And it was also available for free download (it's kind of sad; he knows hardly anyone would buy his record. but I bought this one).

Arnaldo Antunes is much more popular than Fróes. He was part of a very succesful rock band in the 80s (Titãs) and he approached a more Brazilian sound when he went solo. Excerpts of all of his solo work are available in his official site: http://www.arnaldoantunes.com.br/sec_discografia_list.php

I love this song (although I prefer the studio version).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie7KJrgyiUk

Wow, will have to check out Froes prior one .

https://g1.globo.com/pop-arte/musica/blog/mauro-ferreira/post/2019/04/28/paulo-cesar-pinheiro-festeja-70-anos-de-vida-com-uma-das-maiores-obras-da-musica-brasileira.ghtml

This article lists 70 songs of his that they think folks should know. He's known for his poetic lyrics

His allmusic bio is interesting too

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/paulo-c%C3%A9sar-pinheiro-mn0000028375#biography

xp holy shit is right. you've hit paulo cesar's juice with that one, really. cdb's an anthology if i ever heard one

beeing obvious now, from there maybe try his collab w baden os cantores da lapinha, much more samba than capoeira, mind you

thanks y'all

i've been so incredibly busy but hope to have time to share what i've discovered at some point

for now: the baden powell collab from '70 is great. my fav discovery so far though is the s/t from 1974.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXSzHpKbZtU

^ "pesadelo"

Anitta’s 2025 GRAMMYs submissions:

• “Funk Generation” — Album of the Year, Best Latin Pop Album
• “Mil Veces” — Record of the Year, Song of the Year, Best Pop Solo Performance, Best Music Video
• “BELLAKEO” — Record of the Year
• “Bota Niña” — Best Global Music Performance, Best Music Video

critic Joshua Minsoo Kim who writes for the Wire, Pitchfork, & Tone Glow submitted as his number 1 album to The Wire-

Caxtrinho - "Queda Livre" which is Brazilian samba and out there /avante-garde jazz

Doh! I discovered vocalist Luiza Brina album -Prece too late to nominate for ilx poll. Classic samba mostly with some idiosyncratic touches though

That Milton Nascimento w/ Esperanza Spaulding album is more abrasive and out there than I expected

And no one else on this board thought of adding Luiza Brina to the 2024 list . Hmmm. She was on Lars G of NPR’s best of list

Luiza Brina got a B + on this just released list of top 2024 Brazilian albums. I need to check out more of the A ones

https://brazilbeatblog.wordpress.com/2025/02/12/favorite-albums-of-2024/

Best of 2024 Brazil albums just posted

One of the A albums on the list —Thalin, Cravinhos & VCR Slim, Maria Esmeralda (A)

Doesn’t quite wow me as much as a B+ one Luiza Brina - Prece. Admittedly her album is more retro traditional than the other one but I still like it better.

I skimmed this thread from the start, and back in 2002-2006 I'd have said Cordel do Fogo Encantado were by far my favourite current Brazilian band. I still love the first three albums, but the 2018 reunion one didn't grab my attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xYpDxi4s_g

That video has some wild elements- the rolling fireball and the carnival animal. The carnival chanted vocals and percussion are good enough there. Reminds me of a little of what I heard on my one visit to Brazil when we went to carnival in both Bahia/ Salvador and Rio de Janeiro

I'd say their music takes inspiration from coco (which, like samba, has afro-indigenous roots, but is distinct from the music you'd hear in Bahia or Rio), but they are very much their own thing. They also draw from "cordel" literature (folk lit hanging on a line in a street market). You can hear that type of music during carnival in the Northeast, but I think the video depicts one of their many other folk/religious festivities.

This song specifically is about the rain after a long drought: "The thrush of backlands moves me when it sings / For three months it goes on singing, but without singing it goes for nine / because it has the duty only to sing when it rains".

"My folks, don't depart on the Itapemirim ["narrow stone path" in Tupi-Guarani] / Because even nearing the end, there is improvement in our backlands / The skies are silent now, but there will be such thunder / that shakes clumps off a mud hut"

"When it rains in the backlands, the sun lies down and the water rolls on / the toad coughs up foam / wherever it treads, the cow gets bogged down / and abundance hides the bag that hunger begs with"

And it ends like this:

"Mr Drover, it rained over here / Mr Drover, it rained over here / it rained to pelt us down / it was so much water my ox swam"

The thrush of *the backlands

Literatura de cordel is the equivalent of pulp, in spirit if not in actual means of production, right?

no, cordel is not the equivalent of pulp

Cordel is a much more direct descendent of early modern European chapbooks, both in terms of format and themes - you find poetry, songs, stories about folk heroes and religious figures, etc. Think Lampião and his band of bandits, Padre Cícero, Antônio Conselheiro and the War of Canudos, or other archetypical characters in the popular imagination

https://i0.wp.com/memoriasdapoesiapopular.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/o-fazendeiro-que-castrou-o-rapaz-porque-namorou-a-sua-filha.jpg?ssl=1

"The farmer who castrated the young man because he went out with his daughter" - not sure a translation conveys how specific and grounded in a very specific time and place this sounds. It's quite funny if you're familiar with it.

Live, Cordel do Fogo Encantado would often recite verses from this tradition between songs. I remember getting a kick out of a story about a small town's yearly re-enactment of the Passion of Christ - one particularly year, one of the guys playing a centurion had a little too much to drink and got carried away. Jesus kept trying to tell him to take it easy with the whipping, but that only encouraged him. "What sort of Jesus is this, who cries in front of everyone? I didn't know Christ was such a wimp!" Jesus ended up dropping the cross and charging him with kicks and punches, which quickly turned into a brawl with all sorts of biblical characters. The sheriff eventually intervened, and that was the first time Jesus went to jail instead of being crucified. The original verses in Portuguese are of course much funnier than this recap.

The music was also great live, very intense, very theatrical. I've lived in the UK for a very long time now, so I've had the chance to see most living artists I love several times, and Cordel do Fogo Encantado are still up there in the top 5-10 performances I've ever seen.

that's hilarious, and also so interesting

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/03/g-s1-2528/8-tracks-brazil-luiza-brina-milton-nascimento-esperanza-spalding

Lars Gotrich of NPR was writing about vocalist Luiza Brina last year, and other Brazilian albums last year . There's a Brina video on the link also

https://selokirecords.bandcamp.com/album/inteira

Nina Maia - Inteira is a neat female vocalist effort

The new Marina Sena (Coisas naturais) gives off Amaarae vibes but I don't know, it's not really interesting. Still think there's potential in what she's trying to do.

I'm listening to trad mpb vocalist Luciane Dom

Dom is singing in a small DC place the Hill Center tonight

Luciane Dom and the band put on a good show of samba and funky material and a re-arranged Stevie Wonder cover. They're at Creative Alliance in Baltimore tonight, then on to NY and elsewhere including some west US dates