ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

so is this swag? (obv I never heard of these guys til the last Sunday Times)

anyway, the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets, so this should be fun:

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/05/will-music-press-yawn-about-tyler.html

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets

i mean, are smiths fans to be faulted for praising the intelligence of morrissey's lyrics?

yes

imo the whole "this is the start of SOMETHING NEW!!11111" line is often misplaced and kinda overblown, as though being a new artist needs to be a ~gamechanger~ in order to be seen as legit. OFWGKTA or whoever could be the best thing ever and change nothing. (hiya electrik red.)

(yeah i know the headline of my own piece hinged on that but the headline was honestly quite bizarre and unexpected, i didn't think i was arguing that.)

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets, so this should be fun

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i didn't say you didn't know anything about hip hop...JBs were out first, but native tongues was basically a single aethetic, though i think de la was more explictly different.

you can't say three years then is the same as three years now. it all moved so fast.

de la soul didn't really talk about africa.

prince paul's production on in full gear is way different than it was with 3 feet high and rising. their early shit like on fire is straight run-dmc, it's the same guy but stestasonic did not have the same flow or same vibe as native tongues.

they were perceived as different they were different at the time and that is a fact. when they first got on MTV raps it was like what IS this?

a good natured lol at matt getting heated at kids these days

i don't know anything about rap but i enjoy reading goon threads

forks how about you just go with "so is this swag?"

"by god i didn't buy buhloone mindstate so that you kids could lionize lil b!"

So Is This Swag: The Collected OFWGKTA Tweets
^whiney i found yr next tumblr-to-prinit idea

this conversation is stupid by the way. my argument against the og post was they didn't subscribe to the quote, even if they once had a video loling at people in kangols. they were different but not that different. their records were still built on james brown and sly stone samples.

imo the whole "this is the start of SOMETHING NEW!!11111" line is often misplaced and kinda overblown, as though being a new artist needs to be a ~gamechanger~ in order to be seen as legit.

seriously. nobody knows what the future holds and that should be a reason for critics to focus on the past and present, not a free license to break out the crystal ball at every opportunity.

i did some on-the-field reporting for y'all

http://www.spin.com/articles/bruno-mars-responds-tyler-creators-dis

their records were still built on james brown and sly stone samples.

― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and oddfuture is misogyny and shit talk over weird ominous electronic sounds and drum machines so different from, say, the last 10 years of hip hop

"by god i didn't buy buhloone mindstate so that you kids could lionize lil b!"

― Special Fleshlights for their Patriotism (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:50 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

NO SHIT! :)

ah it's "all good" as today's rap slangsters would say.

i think lil' b is way weirder than OF actually

i seriously tho need to retire from paying attention to hip hop, i should just get on those blogs and download crazy old albums and shit and just listen to all the stuff i missed the first time around

i am with tyler w/r/t his comments on bruno mars

"Tyler has to wait in line if he wants to stab me"

and oddfuture is misogyny and shit talk over weird ominous electronic sounds and drum machines so different from, say, the last 10 years of hip hop

ok? I didn't write the og quote?

imo the whole "this is the start of SOMETHING NEW!!11111" line is often misplaced and kinda overblown, as though being a new artist needs to be a ~gamechanger~ in order to be seen as legit.

― lex pretend, Tuesday, May 10, 2011 1:47 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah OTM. but that more down-to-earth POV overlooks the excitement and joy that accompanies the emergence of SOMETHING NEW!! i assume that the thrill of discovery is a big part of why we're all here.

matt, can i strongly recommend you subscribe to this dude's youtube channel?
http://www.youtube.com/user/ticoinjapan

Who will drop a dis track next? Or does the beef stop here?

does the beef stop here reminds me of that scene is 30 rock where alec baldwin is pumping himself up before a speech by looking at a mirror and going JUST DO IT IS IT IN YOU IM LOVING IT

i don't really see oddfuture as the start of something new, more like the most marketable and now manifestation of something that's been bubbling under the surface for a minute now
right on to whoever was calling goblin "an installment"; i could see where it would be hella :/ taken out of context.

in 30 rock xp

Whiney how could you interview Bruno Mars about "Yonkers" without also getting a response from him on my ilx display name "men are from mars, bruno has no penis"?

You guys.

Odd Future is made of a bunch of different elements that you can trace back to different subsets of hip-hop for many years. The fact that they are coalescing in this fashion is what's new.

http://h-6.abload.de/img/0371_s7wp.gif

ime most gamechangers aren't nec seen as such at the time b/c gamechanging is often a matter of slight, sometimes accidental shifting, not always totally abandoning what preceded it, rather than HI THIS IS SOMETHING TOTALLY NEW; and other times gamechangers are regional scenes that have been going on for a while and just happened to break through.

ie, its not that Nirvana invented "quiet verse, loud chorus"

who DID invent "quiet verse, loud chorus"?

::checks a box on the 'times Whiney mentions Nirvana on the Odd Future thread' tally sheet, takes shot::

He stole it from the Pixies iirc

::checks a box every time some dude makes a shitty post, takes shot, quickly dies of alcohol poisoning::

who'd the pixies steal it from? that probably goes back to gospel/classical music i'd guess.

yes, the idea of "dynamics" is as old as ears, forks, but it would be interesting to find its proper antecedent in pop music

it came from odd future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey7DERJTTvU&feature=related

probably started with the doors then.

(i can do this all day, it's fun)

i dont think its always wrong to identify when artists are doing something new, i just think it tends to overemphasize critically acclaimed but otherwise unpopular artists when in reality the artists that tend to drive the direction of pop music are much more populist / 'cheesy' etc. i.e., there's nothing new about weeknd, they're just incorporating ideas already innovated in mainstream R&B. nb ive stolen this idea from simon reynolds who used squarepusher as his example of someone taking the innovations of grassroots while the press gives him credit for 'innovating' when all hes doing is making rave safe for 'serious listeners'

^^^^before ppl start coming w/ counterexamples, this is more a tendency than a rule or law

i just think it tends to overemphasize critically acclaimed but otherwise unpopular artists

i just think PEOPLE tend to do this, on ilx & in critical circles

basically, critics tend to be late to innovation

and only observe it when it surfaces in their circles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=horRWtbAJoI

Cringing big time over some of those comments in the blog that Morbs linked to. Lots of speculation that Tyler must be a closet case that beats his partner.

are you reading an Odd Future post or a Solar post?

kind of lol mostly sad :(

^^

i still get horrible indie rap in the mail - like, you know, backpacker indie stuff although people don't call it that anymore - and it often sounds like it was made a million years ago and its all so deadly boring. and thats why i like the odd future stuff. cuz its not that stuff. i think of them as being "indie". anyone who isn't friends with talib kweli is a friend of mine.

playing the troubadour tonight

i still get horrible indie rap in the mail

There's a whole movie script hidden in just this one brilliant sentence

haha truth