ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

lex i love u for getting lil b on the front page of the guardian website <3

flopson OTM, but it works differently for people (critics & fans) who've been engaged with OF for some time, and that's where most of the hype has come from. kind of surprised that anyone who hasn't been following OF would be blown away goblin taken in isolation.

i mean, it's an installment, and makes the most sense that way

on the radio yesterday afternoon, DJ ran "yonkers" into immortal technique's "bin laden", kinda funny

OF is 2011's chillwave -- a forced non-event that vaporized during its inception

WASHED OUT. WHAT HAPPENED?

if you say so

i bet its the same critics who praised 'glo-fi' praising this. even if the artists are still doing things, the excitement is completely gone

actually there's quite some buzz around the washed out album that's dropping soon

even if the artists are still doing things, the excitement is completely gone

there's a difference between what's going on in your head and what's going on outside it

is there? go on

cuteforce who are you you sound familiar

i'm new here. who are you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW_LD1IdUKQ

he is steven tyler

really was disappointed gr80's yt wasn't "dude looks like a lady"

this washed out song is good!

still not heard this. but odd future are starting to appear like the new d12.

http://thequietus.com/articles/06232-tyler-the-creator-goblin-review

He later called his interrogator a "faggot" on Twitter. Most people should be able to judge whether Tyler The Creator is for them or not based solely on this information, thus side-stepping the whole "rape" and "faggots" "controversy".

does not compute

"limpid-Plaid style electronica"

"The person who Tyler The Creator reminds me of the most is not Eminem at his Relapse-era most amoral; certainly not the educationally subnormal Geto Boys, Nekro, 2LiveCrew, Cannibal Corpse, or Whitehouse. Neither is it Anal Cunt, XXXManiak, GG Alin, or Gorerotted. Instead, its Charles Bukowski"

oh fuck off really fuck you fuck off thanks fuck off thanks fuck off bye

yeah the bukowski thing was 'wtf lol WRONG'

tho i dont get why just for calling a journo a faggot, as opposed to all the other people tyler has called faggot, that should make us decide how we feel about tyler. rappers acting like immature prima donnas who dont like interviews shockah.

anyway, necro>>>tyler

oh fuck off really fuck you fuck off thanks fuck off thanks fuck off bye

I've put one of these unexpected and slightly daft (but potentially illuminating at the same time) comparisons in about 90% of the reviews I've done over the last decade and it never fails to amaze me that it's only ever provincial, English middle class hip hop fans who get so upset by them. While I'd be lying if I said I didn't realise each time how much upset it's going to cause, it's not the primary or even secondary motivation. I just get bored of reviews that solely consist of, "Well it's ok and it's not that much different from some other OFWGKTA albums, like Peter Sutcliffe fronting Company Flow".

That said, I didn't mean to upset you this much. I'm sure with CBT and medication you will finally get some semblance of your life back after this outrage. You'll probably want to avoid reading my Waka FF piece next week tbh.

to be fair it's probably only provincial middle class english people reading your reviews, so?

provincial, English middle class hip hop fans

hahahahaha provincial?

Using "provincial" and "English" in the same sentence is kinda redundant in my experience.

oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh

to be fair it's probably only provincial middle class english people reading your reviews, so?

and probably not hip hop fans at that

I've put one of these comparisons in about 90% of the reviews I've done over the last decade

well, well done you.

that's a great review john.

Jim In Glasgow: You're probably right but it's not me with galloping status anxiety. I'm just happy that a lot of people read my site, even if a lot of them think I'm a bellend.

Thanks Jamie.

Unperson: Actual LOL

Oh Oscar, with these bon mots, you are really spoiling us.

hahaha, is this like the "plop plop fizz fizz" of britain?

"educationally subnormal Geto Boys"

Bit harsh, no? I wouldn't use that phrase about anyone but even if you want to then Scarface doesn't fit. He's smart as hell.

It's not really that harsh but it was pointless and I wish I hadn't written it now.

Language use change is inevitable and organic. My participation in these processes isn't.

This is the kind of double-meaning review-ender I'm always amazed someone would actually write.

loool

I do like the review, aside from the Geto Boys line. Not sure that a call from the GZA in 2011 represents the siren call of mainstream hip hop though.

that geto boys line fucking pisses me off so much

i don't want to join ppl baggin on a fellow ilxor, but this line

"Our friend and writer for The Stool Pigeon and this organ Kev Kharas recently went to interview Tyler The Creator."

Makes me think that D0ran is just calling Kev "a total organ"

i think the review is p good doran but i think the educational subnormal thing is pretty offensive esp because scarface is so much more insightful and poignant and just better than tyler on every single level and bushwick and willie d are frequently funny and gonzo and in bushwick's case occaissionally sad in a way

this thread is a right pain to open in any browser, let alone keep up with, much as i've been trying to. is there any chance of a Pt 2 thread? or maybe separate threads for each of the artists/ albums or whatever?

Odd future is not competing with the ghetto boys on any level

^this basically

and you guys are totally ok with calling first amendment champion and mayoral candidate Luther Campbell "educationally subnormal" in the same sentence?

Nope, not OK, and I said so upthread.

"Compared Odd Future to the Geto Boys/My mind is playing tricks on me"

the educationally subnormal Geto Boys, Nekro, 2LiveCrew, Cannibal Corpse, or Whitehouse

fyi, i would say everyone in this list besides Necro [sic] is totally smart

Haven't read a whole lot about OF, even in this thread, and I'm wary of being baited or repeating stuff that's already said, but what seems fresh about Tyler's brand of adolescent hive-baiting is that there aren't many new artists causing this kind of controversy in recent memory. Purposefully upsetting people seemed par for the course when I was a teen in the mid-90s what with Necro, Anal Cunt etc fuelling our Beavis & Buttheaded guffawing. And then suddenly this all became kind of unacceptable or at least the joke had worn thin by the turn of the century. We suddenly expected a certain amount of, i dunno, civility from our recording artists. Being a malicious little prick was no longer seen as cool or funny or subversive - it was just dumb, fratty ignorance.

Or maybe I just grew up, but I don't remember having been exposed to subversive/adolescent lyrical content of this kind post-Eminem/Tom Green.

So yeah, it's not that original or new, but in a way enough time has passed so someone writing these kinds of lyrics has the power to cause controversy all over again - this is amplified by general culture having supposedly matured in its outlook and sensibilities in the last decade.

xpost Now I'm trying to think of a genuinely stupid rapper.