Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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On the bright side, she'll probably win the Mercury Music Prize this year and that will kill her career stone dead.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:42 (twenty years ago)

I misread that as "kill her carer stone dead".

Which is a little severe...

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad you guys are here to turn everything into sarcasm and "here's a 60 page thesis on why she's bad" type politics, but I still like her songs.

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:51 (twenty years ago)

Write a 60-page thesis on why you like her songs.

(that's generous - if you were working on an Ang Lee film he'd make you do 75 pages!)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:52 (twenty years ago)

"i don't like the way she sounds" != "politics"

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:54 (twenty years ago)

Well, that was how Nazi Germany started.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:56 (twenty years ago)

Munich: "i don't like the way she sounds"
Hitler: "I AM NOT A SHE!!! RIGHT, GET ZER TANKS!!"

― freddie starr (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:58 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, carry on :-)

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:59 (twenty years ago)

you know how Lady Sovereign's singles have gone in this fairly steep downward trajectory from "ace and exciting and wow!" to "a bit boring and quite beneath her" to the point that she's now willingly collaborating with the Ordinary Boys? Lily Allen is what would happen if this trajectory continued for another couple of years.

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), June 2nd, 2006.

NEW CONTENT PLZ

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 2 June 2006 08:09 (twenty years ago)

Alex you know I have a lot of time for your opinions on music and will happily defer to you on most musical issues, so I hope you don't think I'm being unnecessarily contrary when I ask "where on earth is the Britpop in Lily Allen's music?"

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:04 (twenty years ago)

ethan youre so full of shit i saw your ras kass paper doll it was glued grinding up behind the one of t-rock

― karri miback (cruisy), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Well that's certainly an improvement on any of Lily Allen's lyrics.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Lex is to pop as George Galloway is to liberalism.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:31 (twenty years ago)

Lex is to pop as Geir is to rock.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Lex is to Pop as of all that suppression.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:44 (twenty years ago)

at the end of the day she's probably the most lex-y pop act ever, so of *course* he can't like her.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:47 (twenty years ago)

Lex is to Pop as Pop was to U2.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:48 (twenty years ago)

I thought Lady Sovereign was collaborating with the Ordinary Boys out of record company desperation?

The Nipper's Betty Boo point makes no sense other than the fact they are both girls who make summery pop music, and the argument doesn't really wash given the rabid Girls Aloud love on here.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Lady Sovereign "collaborating" with the Ordinary Boys - probably at the point of a record company bayonet.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:02 (twenty years ago)

well i can imagine another Lily Allen track being a lot like 'Let Me Take You There'

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:04 (twenty years ago)

So those of us who already have the Four Tops Greatest Hits won't need to bother...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Lily Allen is not pop she is indie. Lex is to indie what lions are to Christians.

I think Chuck Tatum hit it on the nail upthread when he likened Allen to a Britpop novelty act - that horrid jaunty ska beat, those chuggachugga guitars, the voice which is basically a female Allbran Mockney voice...

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:21 (twenty years ago)

I think Lex has a mockney on his back

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Personally, I can't wait for Marcello to write up a 50,000 essay on Lily Allen only for the girl herself to laugh at it in an upcoming interview.

That's always fun.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Lily Allen is to Lex as MIA was to Grimin' Simon.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Well no, I'd have to like her music first... (xpost)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:24 (twenty years ago)

well, yes, britpop was all about the ska.

just listen to pulp, suede, or elastica -- you can't miss it.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Lily Allen is to Lex as MIA was to Grimin' Simon.

except simon had no actual valid reasons for disliking MIA! whereas I have the entirely valid reason that no one should be making music with ska rhythms or guitars in at all in 2006.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:25 (twenty years ago)

What, like Desmond Dekker isn't?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:27 (twenty years ago)

precisely!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:27 (twenty years ago)

(xpost, holmes)

That shouldn't stop you writing that 50,000 essay on a blog that nobody will ever read, Carlin.

Try linking her to Blair, neo-liberalism and Mind Your Language for bonus Carmodism hit points.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Enrique OTM. Menswear's version of 'Lip Up Fatty' has to be heard to be believed.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:35 (twenty years ago)

I thought lots of people read Church Of Me?

And some people read Esteban's Live Journal?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:37 (twenty years ago)

No Buts It's Got to Be Buttez

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:40 (twenty years ago)

any thread that has lex talking bollocks about guitars *and* esteban trying to start some trouble with marcello has got to be worth bookmarking.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:43 (twenty years ago)

esteban has a livejournal!?!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Ah well, yet another enjoyable thread ruined by a career troll.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 11:05 (twenty years ago)

I better get out this thread while the going's good, guys!

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 2 June 2006 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Especially now it's being ruined by a "career troll".

Whoever that is.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 2 June 2006 11:28 (twenty years ago)

i think he means lex.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 2 June 2006 11:29 (twenty years ago)

Oh, of course.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 2 June 2006 11:31 (twenty years ago)

By the way, here is some nice new pictures of Miss Allen looking cute ^__^

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 2 June 2006 11:36 (twenty years ago)

i can't believe i fell for that!

― yuengling participle (rotten03), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Cod-reggae =! pop

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Nor does it equal Kylie or Betty Boo or whatever else. MIA's pop was forward-looking; Lily's is pretty distinctly not. Backwards-looking music is fine but I think ILM likes its pop futurist.

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:10 (twenty years ago)

The album often sounds like the Sugababes.

― snowballing (snowballing), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:32 (twenty years ago)

TS: "LDN" vs. "Steal My Sunshine"

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

I think ILM likes its pop futurist.

People talk about [ILM], like it's some giant living in the hillside, coming down to visit the townspeople. We are [ILM]. Me, you, everybody.

We are [ILM], so [ILM] is going where we going. So the next time you ask yourself where [ILM] is going, ask yourself: ‘where am I going? How am I doin?’

― yuengling participle (rotten03), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

In that case, right now, ILM is waiting to see if it received a job offer from Dairy Queen.

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

It's a bit like Arthur O'Shaughnessy said in "Ode" from his book I Love Music and Moonlight (1874):

"Everybody are the music makers, and ILM are the writers about the dream. Wandering by lone sea breakers, and sitting by desolate streams. World losers and world forsakers, for whom the pale moon gleams. Yet ILM are movers and the shakers of the world forever it seems.”

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

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