j0rdan, get on AIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6df0rha_Opw
― chairfuckers union (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 8 May 2011 03:32 (fifteen years ago)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AxBvyEAebkY/SjgY_3AvAYI/AAAAAAAAAFY/VN4uH7vScLU/s320/salute.jpg
― n/as (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 8 May 2011 03:36 (fifteen years ago)
also, lol @ lupe fiasco's racial harmony "fantasy" song where eminem inspires a black MC to start rapping
― chairfuckers union (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 8 May 2011 03:42 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTkhBqvuLHM
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 May 2011 05:05 (fifteen years ago)
what the fuck happened in this thread
i dont think ttdeej is a dope dn or anything but it made me lightweight chuckle when i thought of it
― TTDeej (D-40), Sunday, 8 May 2011 08:07 (fifteen years ago)
thread got funny
― my other username is a finest (cozen), Sunday, 8 May 2011 09:33 (fifteen years ago)
the same fucking thing that happens on every thread where you whiney and some dude start stressing about each others relative dick sizes
― gr8080, Sunday, 8 May 2011 11:38 (fifteen years ago)
"my dn is honestly playing in a different league than both of yours, no shots"
new board description
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 May 2011 12:19 (fifteen years ago)
I would like to point out my dn has been awesome in this thread
― don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Sunday, 8 May 2011 12:42 (fifteen years ago)
― gr8080, Sunday, May 8, 2011 7:38 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
hey in my defense i packed up my dick and left when i saw the ruler
― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Sunday, 8 May 2011 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1id5hBksf9M
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 May 2011 16:08 (fifteen years ago)
I'll get me dick
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 May 2011 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
― gr8080, Sunday, May 8, 2011 11:38 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
wtf i wasnt even in that argument
― TTDeej (D-40), Sunday, 8 May 2011 18:04 (fifteen years ago)
...
― markers, Sunday, 8 May 2011 18:15 (fifteen years ago)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5069/5700535016_d06d024199.jpg
saw this in the med school bathroom, btw
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Sunday, 8 May 2011 18:31 (fifteen years ago)
Btw whiney I got the chair kickers union joke right away, what do I win?
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:28 (fifteen years ago)
one hour with a chippendale dancer
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:37 (fifteen years ago)
NICE
― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
Words from the Lex:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/may/09/hip-hop-homophobia
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 May 2011 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
What both Odd Future and Lil B are doing, at heart, is trolling their elders in the hope of provoking reaction. So why does Lil B seem so much more exciting? Perhaps because he understands that truly brave trailblazing entails trolling your own core demographic, not outsider strawmen who have no time for you anyway.
great point / good piece for the most part lex
― TTDeej (D-40), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:04 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah that's spot on Lex
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 May 2011 16:06 (fifteen years ago)
yah that is a good point
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:07 (fifteen years ago)
can't argue
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
A great followup on Twitter as well:
tomewing Tom Ewing
@alex_macpherson love the piece but if you think of OFWG's core demog as liberal music bloggers they certainly are trolling it!
alex_macpherson Alex Macpherson
@tomewing liberal music bloggers are possibly unique in that trolling them and pandering to them is often the same thing
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 May 2011 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
Lil B caused a furore
had no idea y'all spelled it this way~
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 May 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
that's p gangsta spellingwise imo
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
And with songs entitled I'm God, I Am the Ocean and I'm Paris Hilton, I'm Gay is less of a grand statement than it might appear.
this line made me lol
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 May 2011 16:45 (fifteen years ago)
i think "furore" is a britishism a'la "colour" and "football"?
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
how else would one spell "furore"?!
― lex pretend, Monday, 9 May 2011 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6tXZpSgCtE
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
i had no idea. good lord that spelling is ugly
― lex pretend, Monday, 9 May 2011 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
pip pip
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
furor - about 7,380,000 results (0.14 seconds)furore - about 5,250,000 results (0.13 seconds)
― adult music person (Jordan), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
Mein Fuhrere
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 May 2011 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
anyway lex no joke i think that's the best piece of crit i've read all year
wow thanks, appreciate that
― lex pretend, Monday, 9 May 2011 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
yah, that's a good bit of writing.the "never known a victimized woman so to them it's all comic book" made me think of s. clay wilson, whose work i read at the tender age of eight or nine when i would sneak out checkered demon comix from my dad's pile of undergrounds. that shit did me in and was TREMENDOUSLY confusing; lots of rape and murder in black and white with details that prepubescent me could barely process. It didn't leave any lasting scars though and I can't imagine that ofwg's shit will either once they get past the nihilist stage and start doing more fun adventurous stuff. the songs of theirs i like best is when they're fucking around and battling in grocery lines or just battle rapping
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:00 (fifteen years ago)
for those unfamiliar with wilson, here's a representative late era nsfw sample - http://www.sclaywilsontrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/P7290003.jpg
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
whoa lex that angel haze on the evidence of the first couple tracks sounds like exactly what I've been looking for! preemptive apologies to any ringtone crew who have already been repping her if I missed it from y'all
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:18 (fifteen years ago)
there was some discussion on the gun sounds thread (though iirc 90% of it was me talking to myself)
kinda wish she hadn't put the acoustic guitar ones right at the start, it turns a lot of people off - rest assured she goes much much harder as it goes on
― lex pretend, Monday, 9 May 2011 17:30 (fifteen years ago)
the angel haze is really really good but took me a while to get into it cos the beats she goes over are (mainly) so well known. So at first I was hearing the beat and just filling in what the verses *should* be. She can definitely rap tho. Not sure that she's really doing anything startlingly more original or exciting than OF however.
― pandemic, Monday, 9 May 2011 17:35 (fifteen years ago)
yeah people with in-house production will always somewhat justifiably have a leg up on rappers who primarily do freestyle tapes
― raggett doll, livin' in a rovi (some dude), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:40 (fifteen years ago)
Has Goblin dropped yet?
― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:44 (fifteen years ago)
lol ok it came out today.
― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:45 (fifteen years ago)
the problem is that so many "outsider" artists have affected transgression by telling the world about their dark thoughts that, wrong or right, it's become boring. Tyler doesn't transgress expectations; he follows a well-worn path of faux-rebellion trodden by everyone from the Sex Pistols to Eminem – and the alleged vulnerability Tyler reveals in rapping about his absent father is entirely part and parcel of this archetype.
OTM. though i like goblin, with reservations, i'm disappointed that it casts the crew as neither futurist nor particularly odd. everything is familiar: the lazy backpacker beats, the gleeful teen transgressions, and the macho/emo internal conflicts behind them. seems like a record that could have come out anytime in the last decade. not saying it lacks distinctive character, but it's hardly innovative. compared to the stakes-raising frank ocean mixtape, that's a real disappointment.
will say that it seems strange to take tyler to task for his thoughtless homophobia, because, especially on this LP, it's a punch forever pulled. he even (weakly) subverts it with talk of his dad's dick and dancing around in all-over print panties. however disappointing tyler's rationalizations in interviews may be, goblin's homophobia is tame by the standards of the genre. there's little to it beyond the fact that he likes to call both friends and haters "faggot". it's the album's misogyny that's significant and troublesome, imo.
anyway, it's funny that forks mentions s. clay wilson, cuz i keep thinking of early r. crumb. suppose goblin lies somewhere in between, combining clay's psychedelic hellscape with crumb's self-portraiture and confessional obscenity.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
OH HAY, that quote pulled from lex's excellent guardian piece, btw.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:11 (fifteen years ago)
Excellent piece Lex.
I think I noticed some casual racism mixed in with the rapeness on Fish as well although it's pretty mild: "Slip it in her drink/ in the slip of an eye/ I can make a white girl look chink."
I still think this is one of the better tracks on it though.
― PG Harpy (Doran), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:31 (fifteen years ago)
It's a great piece, Lex, though (quibble quibble) you're wrong to throw the Sex Pistols in there. Their transgression was of a different kind entirely.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
I'd say Bodies is an apt comparison.
― PG Harpy (Doran), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:43 (fifteen years ago)
Nah, Bodies came out of leftfield - there was nobody else saying things like that in rock. By comparison, Tyler's particular shock tactics are a well-trodden path by now. You couldn't call Bodies trolling.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:45 (fifteen years ago)