The sound of Nirvana

http://www.sendspace.com/file/o3n61w

if you want to A/B vig and albini, here's versions of "sappy" recorded before remix/remastering, supposedly.
(to be honest, the only real difference I hear is vig likes the vocal doubling more)

http://www.spin.com/articles/nirvana-unheard-concert-satyricon-dale-crover

nevermind is not really butch vig's best work imo

don't remember what this meant, probably 8 way santa

a bad quality Nirvana boot on Youtube is news?

new one I just heard on sports talk radio: the beginning drum fill in “teen spirit” was ripped off from the gap band’s “early in the morning”

I don't buy it, the kick drum is totally different

dave grohl said it himself on his tv show episode with Pharrell

video here, cant figure out how to link wout linking to rando’s tweet

Super dope. Respect to artists that give their inspirations a shout. Pharrell is really big on that so it's dope that he got the exclusive. lol pic.twitter.com/3N3POZ9Sg2

— Factions2BetaTester (@CR00K__Gaming) June 30, 2021

the Gap Band DNA is probably in that drum fill, but the sheer number of outraged people on Twitter complaining that no one ever gave disco the credit it deserved for influencing Nirvana is a little silly.

Dave Grohl is deluding himself idc

I was foot tapping that “likes to shoot his gun” one earlier

finally, disco gets the credit it deserves for dave grohl's drumming

dave grohl does dodge ram commercials

it's times likes these you learn to lease a dodge ram!!
it's times likes these you learn to lease a dodge ram!!, i said,
it's times likes these you learn to lease a dodge ram!!
it's times likes these you learn to lease a dodge ram!!, i said, whoa-oh-oh!

imagine kurdt cobain leasing a dodge ram. gtfo

Has Grohl ever mentioned a disco influence before?

Atm I think I agree with Jordan that shifting the kick to the "e" and "a" instead of the "&" seems like a significant difference.

Could imagine long grey haired grizzled kurt

but that chorus beat is straight Madchester...

xp i think it would be like "you know you're right" crossed with modern day dave grohl. on the + side, grohl would be the drummer instead of the front man in this scenario

Has Grohl ever mentioned a disco influence before?

not the same thing but he was vocally stanning for electronic music on the first Foo Fighters promo stuff, iirc. his TV show, which I think was pretty good and entertaining, made it clear he has a broad palate.

The gap band is more funk than disco

Funkmaster Dave Grohl

That drum break is also close to « Funky Cold Medina » with its Funkadelic sample

But yeah the Nirvana one is obviously different on the kick

not the same thing but he was vocally stanning for electronic music on the first Foo Fighters promo stuff, iirc. his TV show, which I think was pretty good and entertaining, made it clear he has a broad palate.

I mean, there's having a broad palate and there's drawing deeply on Gap Band, Cameo, and Chic for the rhythms of every song on Nevermind? Just seems quite possible that his 30yo memory is being coloured a tad by the lens of the person he's talking to, the current trends, and his most recent project. It's not like people failed to make the connection wrt RHCP's funk influences or NIN's disco and synthpop influences.

he does a variation on the kick pattern but that doesn’t make it not a homage

The most disco-ish beat on “Nevermind,” and it’s not even particularly disco, is “In Bloom,” and Chad Channing wrote that drum part.

On the other hand I can believe Grohl listened to Tony Thompson - one of the things that initially drew me to Chic’s sound, before I was much of a funk or disco fan, was that the drummer grooves with the best of them but also hits the skins like he’s playing for Led Zeppelin (which he eventually did, of course). Grohl rarely essays a great groove, but that combination of muscle and precision is right there in his playing.

It’s also like the beginning of “hopscotch” by Gwen Guthrie

as grohl played the smells like teen spirit beat, it used up his last remaining store of coolness. he's been post-cool ever since

the drum intro to teen spirit always vaguely remind me of a syncopated version of motown, a la “ain’t too proud to beg”

maybe that’s what the gap band was doing too, idk

Grohl's best drumming is on Songs for the Deaf by QOTSA

that was also one of his favorite albums to drum on iirc

lol, Gap Band. He could have just as easily said, like, Not Just Knee Deep or something.

Gap Band rule

Grohl's best drumming is on Songs for the Deaf by QOTSA

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, July 3, 2021 8:48 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^^^^^^

I'm sort of confused, so Grohl said he adapted a little drum fill from a Gap Band song and this is bad or a big deal why??

Skimmed this revive, but I think the answer is that it means ... nothing.

Skimmed this revive, but

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:14 AM (eleven minutes ago)

lol, Gap Band.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, July 4, 2021 5:51 AM (thirty-three minutes ago)

i just like calling him uncool because of his longtime cool guy standing

xp

xpost I skimmed the revive while out and about, saw Grohl cited the Gap Band for "Smells," and made fun of that. But I didn't read any further, per UMS, to see if this was a big deal or bad. You nerd.

I’m bloom riff drummage would have been a good follow up to the argument but as wufs points out above , it’s not grohls

I'm sort of confused, so Grohl said he adapted a little drum fill from a Gap Band song and this is bad or a big deal why??

Bc he is using his white male privilege to perpetrate epistemic violence through cultural appropriation.

Seriously, the Gap Band fill was one example he gave of what he was describing as a broader influence throughout at least that album - this isn't a bad thing in any way but I think it's also fair for listeners to discuss the extent to which we hear this.

So where else can we hear it on the album

EVERY ONE OF THOSE SONGS

I’m really sorry for this revive, I didn’t know it was an internet memey thing, I honestly just thought was two guys on the radio riffin on a Friday afternoon

Nah, it was fun to think about.

Honestly, had Cobain lived they should have done a remix album.

A taste of what could have been...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Deconstructed.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98O3osLqZ74

Interesting exchange at 37", hard not to read something into Kurt's look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqlocVZrKyw