"4:13 Dream" by the Cure

thank god.

4:13 dream is kind of terrible. I can't listen to it. I think it's the production. the songs I guess are alright, but it's hard to get into, and so tiring to listen to .

It is mostly the production; Robert's become kind of enamored with this muddiness that sometimes works well ("The Scream", "It's Over") and sometimes gets in the way of the song ("This. Here and Now. With You").

Basically, if the whole album was aggro freakout songs it would read much better.

crap production indeed, as well as persistent annoying vocal ticks (SHOUTING EVERYTHING!!!). But tbh at the end of teh day these songs were just alright for the most part but nothing spectacular.
'Hungry Ghost' is the one I still come back to (although it is plagued by the aforementioned problems)

I still really dig "Underneath the Stars", "The Real Snow White", "The Holy Ghost", "The Scream" and "It's Over"

There are a number of keepers for me as well -- and hell, the shows were spectacular, so no complaints!

Yeah, the shows were fantastic!

xxp The Scream and It's Over start out great but then the whole muddiness gets exhausting (compare how raw the pretty similar "Shiver & Shake" sounds in comparison)

I think exhaustion is part of the point of those songs

My problem is with the mastering, rather than the production per se.
Superloud, ultra-compressed, it worked against a sound that apparently was meant to be as hazy and, yes, muddy as possible.
There was a number of good songs: I have a soft spot for the frantic funk of Freakshow - and forgive the alliteration.

agreed on the mastering

surprised they aren't going to haul out a disintegration tour, since the remaster came out in the past year....a disintegration/wish tour would be just fine with me. because I am a nostolgist.

I think I probably meant "mastering" rather than "production"

Good if they're going to play Faith live - I just hope they dust off the version of All Cats Are Grey played back in 89 rather that the lazy one performed during the Bloodflowers one.

About the 4:13 mastering: it is a pity, because all the "atmospheric" production touches turned out sort of flat and uninspired (see an otherwise excellent song like Underneath The Stars) and, despite the in-your-face sound, took away a lot of strenght from the freak-out songs.

so here it is:

"In two nights labeled Reflections, on May 31 and June 1, the band's mainstay, songwriter and owner of the worst applied make-up in rock, Robert Smith, will be joined by Simon Gallup on bass and Jason Cooper on drums for the performance of the 1979 album Three Imaginary Boys The original drummer, Lol Tolhurst - now playing keyboards and percussion - will join in for the albums Seventeen Seconds and Faith."

what woah

Kind of a weird move, but yeah woah.

Roger is supposed to be playing as well.

but with those albums, and not Roger-era albums, I might still stay more excited for Spiritualized doing Ladies & Gentlemen in the Opera Theatre and The Crystal Ark playing in the Studio

will be slightly annoyed that the late late announcement means I got Odd Future tickets for the Wednesday when I could have got the Thursday and not clashed tho

hoping Azari & III at a queer party in the Studio will be ace too

I'm guessing this'll be recorded for DVD like Trilogy. Which I'm more than fine with.

you know what would be wau, is if they pulled together shows where they plays specific albums and had the ppl who originally recorded them play the gig

looks like that was sort of the plan? except Robert can't let go of Jason

where are these going to be though? if on the forecourt it is going to SHIT up access for all the other venues good and proper

xpost -- Must all be down to blackmail or something. He's now the longest serving drummer of the Cure by about a decade!

xxxp haha yeah - maybe Roger is scheduled to play on the third phase of that tour.
Sign me up for the Japanese Whispers/Top gigs.

Now I'm imagining what the hell a Mixed Up show would be like.

as pointed out on CoF, this will be the first live performance of "Doubt" (and probably some of the instrumentals on 17S)

I was thinking that, "Doubt" finally gets a live airing!

Right now I can only think about a live rendition of Foxy Lady!

yeah i expect a few lols from the 3IB - Meathook? Weedy Burton (or whatever that thing is called)?

If they really wanted to replicate it they should call up Paul Weller and ask for his gear.

"We know you're not doing anything much interesting with it right now."

"Well thank you I -- hey!"

Jesus fuck, it's in the Concert Hall - this is going to be the worst shitfight for tickets ever.

The Cure "Reflections"

Three Imaginary Boys (1979)
The Cure Trio: Robert Smith (voice & guitar), Simon Gallup (bass), Jason Cooper (drums)

Seventeen Seconds (1980)
The Cure Quartet: Robert Smith (voice & guitar), Simon Gallup (bass), Jason Cooper (drums), Roger O'Donnell (keys)

Faith (1981)
The Cure Quintet: Robert Smith (voice & guitar), Simon Gallup (bass), Jason Cooper (drums), Roger O'Donnell (keys & percussion), Laurence Tolhurst (keys & percussion)

oh he's Laurence now?

I guess I'll have to wait for the inevitable dvd since I'm pretty sure these gigs will turn out great.

so this thing is about to start. Feeling all tingly

From the Chain of Flowers site:

"Soundcheck (partial): Splintered in Her Head!!!, All Cats Are Grey, Primary, Jumping Someone Else's Train, Another Journey By Train!!!"

I'd really love to hear them play Splintered, it's the Cure at their most 23 Skidoo.

so they're playing all the b-sides of the era as encores. I am now truly pissed off to be missing this.

not gonna be liveblogging this but 'Descent'?! wtf!!

wait shit all the b-sides? I said no to swapping my Odd Future tickets cos they announced it was going to be completely over by 10 aaargh

final set list

1st set: 10:15 Saturday Night, Accuracy, Grinding Halt, Another Day, Object, Subway Song, Foxy Lady (RS on vocals), Meathook, So What, Fire In Cairo, It's Not You, Three Imaginary Boys (No Weedy Burton).

From Fuji: "in the olden days that was IT!!! but...see you in a few minutes!!" RSX walking off stage at the end of 3IB "

2nd set (with Roger O'Donnell): A Reflection, Play for Today, Secrets, In Your House, Forever! (instead of Three?), The Final Sound, A Forest, M, At Night, Seventeen Seconds.

3rd set (with Roger and Lol Tolhurst): The Holy Hour, Primary, Other Voices, All Cats Are Grey (Lol played the closing notes on this. Nice!), The Funeral Party, Doubt (Roger on the magical tambourine : ) ), The Drowning Man, Faith (not extended).

1st Encore: World War, I'm Cold, Plastic Passion, Boy's Don't Cry, Killing Another, Jumping Someone Else's Train (with keyboards), Another Journey By Train

2nd encore: Descent, Splintered in Her Head (RS on harmonica), Charlotte Sometimes, The Hanging Garden

3rd encore: Let's Go to Bed, The Walk, Lovecats.

Yeah, we all need a recording of this ASAP.

would have seriously lost it if they'd closed with the entire Japanese Whispers.

encores better be included on the DVD

how long did it go all up?

ANSWER ME

I turned down FIVE offers to swap tix for Thursday ;_;

"encores better be included on the DVD"

^^^^

THEY PLAYED "WORLD WAR"????????????????????????????????

WTF OMG WAU

haha i was waiting for DJP to see this

I should have pillaged my bank account for this ;_;