Max B The Thread

im not asking him to agree at all though

like, his opinion on the jacka is irrelevant, he can listen to sheek louch lps til the day he dies for all i care -- its a basic level of Not Being A Dick where he assumes im just fanboyishly referring to artists i like that feels particularly condescending which is weird coming from someone i 'socialize' with on a daily basis.

i mean, if that was his intent, which he claims it wasnt, now, so theres nothing to argue about

i guess jokes on me for taking him seriously

lol @ you latching onto the lox and freeway as the artists i supposedly bump all day every day and talk about constantly

lol @ you getting defensive about liking sheek louch

i'm not! that shit's aight but i mean, i know WAY more about your taste in rap and the stuff you listen to than vice versa, you can pretend you know exactly where i'm coming from but it's just a bunch of bullshit shots in the dark because i don't treat ilm as my personal last.fm listening diary.

ok? the point wasnt that i know what you like. nice job turning this into more zings & meanspiritedness though -- if you were trying to suggest im reading animosity into this you're prob not helping your case

is it to like sheek louch now? i still like him and i like freeway a lot, actually i love freeway

shh m@tt some dude doesnt want to read you last.fm

*your

hey, m@tt, tread lightly, the "keep it real" police are out in full force today

deej i'm saying that people here read your writing and respect your opinions and take your recommendations and understand your taste probably more than you'll ever know but because they also having a rapport of giving each other shit in a relatively harmless way and you don't know how to take a joke you'll forever have a ridiculous chip on your shoulder about the "animosity" i or whiney or aero has toward you.

GO LISTEN TO SKEEK LOUCHC RETRADE

some dude whiney & aero are the only ppl i have this problem with, though. i mean, aero came through to post a big paragraph to scare me from mentioning rappers i like in reviews. is that this famous witty rapport you're talking about?

ps: whiney way to miss the pt -- i like both sheek louch & freeway

"look, i would be fine if it wasn't for some dude, whiney, aero, flops, matt, frogbs, Princess TamTam, Dan P [continued forever]"

i mean, aero came through to post a big paragraph to scare me from mentioning rappers i like in reviews.

your delusions of persecution & your inability to discern intent in other people's posts is fucking breathtaking

shame on me for thinking talking to you with respect was a workable strategy, it's like obvious that you're not stupid but you sure do play a stupid person on ilm

I POSTED A PARAGRAPH TO PARTICIPATE IN A CONVERSATION YOU HOPELESSLY DUMB SHIT, is what I want to say

argh aero it wasnt about you its about some dude arguing that this is just abt 'joeks bruv' when we were in fact having 'serious discussions'

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aero came through to post a big paragraph to scare me from mentioning rappers i like in reviews. is that this famous witty rapport you're talking about?

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argh aero it wasnt about you

yeah dude this

i mean, aero came through to post a big paragraph to scare me from mentioning rappers i like in reviews.

fucking pisses me off

like that's all I have to say about it is why bother trying to talk music with a guy who takes this from a reasoned paragraph? just clown that dude all day til he gets banned seems like a saner strategy, 'cause a dude who goes from what I wrote to yr read on it is a dude with zero reading comprehension

or actual interest in talking about music or criticism

deej's shaky reading comprehension (or refusal to respond to anything anyone says in anything but the most reductive point he can disagree with) is definitely the elephant in the room here

wow

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speaking of reading comprehension --

sorry for being troll-y when quoting aero -- the point was that he wasnt actually partaking of witty repartee but was engaging in a serious argument that you cosigned -- which contradicted your assertion that u were simply busting my balls.

man whiney you are incredibly annoying

sorry for ruining this great thread

like, i get aero's point wasnt per se about me in this instance, but why were we even discussing it? what did it have to do w/ the matter at hand if you were just joking around? it was brought up because you were criticizing something id written -- pretend it was in jest if you want but that makes no sense. we were, in fact, discussing the writing -- so, was i overreacting to 'jokes' or not? cuz i thought we were having a serious discussion

some dude i get a total 'have your cake and eat it too' vibe from this whole thing -- you get to be critical, but can back away when i take offense because you're just joking. i mean, you can claim its a 'persecution complex' but that doesnt explain why it doesnt bother me when flopson or j0rdan say it, but when u do it comes across like criticism.

aero's post had a friendly and familial air that, obviously, left the building soon after. your manner is can be extremely severe, especially when other people are trying to keep the mood light or contribute some levity or just say anything other than "deej otm" without you taking offense.

like, you may notice that when you call me a dick or whatever i don't spend my next 10 posts explaining why i'm not and never have been a dick and you started it. me being less squeamish than you about being the bad guy or just being wrong or overstepping a line doesn't actually mean that you by default are right.

yes & i apologize for characterizing his post the way i did because it confused my primary pt which was that this wasnt just a series of jibes but had crossed into a 'serious' discussion.

whatever. i guess i just need to learn to ignore your posts like that -- obv im taking them 'too seriously'.

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hey ignore me or don't, it's all good, obviously you should be able to defend yourself if you think someone's being unfair, even jokingly. i'm just saying the earnest 700 word response to a one-liner kind of inherently raises things beyond "jokes bruv" in a way that i find kind of impossible to take seriously.

c'mon guys you are all nice ppl why are you fighting?

i believe the term is not fighting but 'lol sparring'

lolsparrer is one of best oi bands

its not 'a one liner' its a series of passive aggressive zings directed my way that are kind of your stock in trade

& whiney id appreciate if you kept shit like calling me 'paranoid' to the board and not twitter, thnx

its not v professional imo

how much more clearly do i have to express myself to stop being sneaky and 'passive aggressive'? i really feel like i've laid all my cards on the table.

i didnt have to write 700 words to make that argument, i did because its ilx & its just off the top of the dome shit, conversational or whatever.

heres a short version.

'yeah i figured you guys would get a kick out of that but i did it anyway cuz i think there is a connection between the artists -- i can go into detail if you like but it wasn't just a cataloging of the artists i like'

now you wouldnt be able to make jokes about how much i wrote, as if that was an indicator of something. would this convo have turned out differently? would i be overreacting? am i taking a 'joke' too seriously bcuz i take issue w/ you saying that i did that 'out of nowhere'? am i not allowed to take issue w/ that? are all zings hands-off because they're just jokes, even when its sorta implied that you mean some of the shit behind it?

my main takeaway from this convo is that you'd be totally fine with someone disagreeing with or making fun of something you said IF you said something wrong and/or unintentionally funny, which in your opinion has never happened and probably never will.

well, then read better

like literally everything you've said just amounts to a haughty "how dare you!"

you felt obligated to explain that you dont even love sheek louch like that in this thread -- how is that any different

cause i said it once briefly and moved on?

because i didnt then continue to argue with you about it because im sure you're right, as i dont happen to be in your head, like you were when you determined i was listing my favorite artists instead of making some wider point

there is no relationship between jacka & max b, none, and if deej says there is, ill argue with him or troll him for the next 200 posts