Has Led Zeppelin Dated Poorly?

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it all depends on what you call punk, eventually...

AleXTC, Friday, 29 February 2008 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

They only made eight.

-- Hadrian VIII, Friday, 29 February 2008 14:33 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Including "Coda"? (like I care)

Yeah.... Queen were supposedly going to make an album that sounded like the Dammned as well. Only, they actually made that one (NOTW) with "Sheer heart attack" the song. I.e. no.

Mark G, Friday, 29 February 2008 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Coda wasn't a studio album of new material, was it?

I'd say something interesting but I feel like I've said most of what I have to say on many other LZ threads and this question doesn't really inspire me to wax eloquent.

Sundar, Friday, 29 February 2008 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

I think Coda was all outtakes.

"Wearing & Tearing" = pretty punk

will, Friday, 29 February 2008 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

"Wearing & Tearing" = pretty punk

Nah. "Wearing & Tearing" is Zep's sour grapes at Punk.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

"ok. by the way, I don't think the stones were punk at all. except keith"

o hai stones career and music 1962 - 1970

Frogman Henry, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'll say it again:

"I wanna be your man" as by the Stones is about the most DERANGED sounding hit single ever!

Mark G, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Alex, Plant has said they weren't taking the piss, that they were energized by what they were hearing at the time & that W&T was indicative of their new direction had they kept on...

Hadrian VIII, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

Alright, fair enough. It has been documented that Page & Plant attended the odd Damned gig. I don't deny that they appreciated Punk (Plant has gone on record saying that Big Black's Songs About Fucking is one of his all time faves), but that doesn't mean that "Wearng & Tearing" suddenly turned them into punks any more than "Sheer Heart Attack" (the song, not the album) turned Queen into punks.

The `Stones were closer to the mark, however choreographed it might've been.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

the fact that often noone really can say anything interesting about lz proves why they endure...to most they just rock or are just awesome...that vague value will endear more believers than a concrete value. (xactly why we get the critical vs popular acclaim split so often)...nothing new or complicated

bb, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

will always(/already) endear
^

previous poast

bb, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Can a music matter if its fans don't especially want to read about it?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

to click or not to click?

(i do want to do some damned writing this am)

bb, Friday, 29 February 2008 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

Amount-of-stuff-written / Interstingness-of-stuff-written

In Zeppelin's case, it's about a million to one. Not my favorite band in the world, but I like 'em, and I can't think of a band that I'm less interested in reading about.

contenderizer, Friday, 29 February 2008 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

five years pass...

So, finally I get a Zep albums box set (it even has all the InThrough alternate sleeves, finickity bunch..)

And the first is dull, the second has good bits but all were done better by the Small Faces..

The third is getting there, the fourth has the big ones and I can appreciate it if not love it.

Houses of the Holy. Now, then. This is the one where it all works! I know it has the two tracks the zep afich love to hate, but the whole thing works!

Phys Graf I have already, and about half of it I like. It seems those tracks are the "old" ones..

Anyway, I did Presence today, it's ok I guess but I won't be returning to it..

So, I have, um, SongRemains and InThrough and Coda to go.

I dunno, it seems like a slog. Are there riches ahead?

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:14 (twelve years ago)

you've been through the best, InThrough is boring, SongRemains = meh live recording, Coda I haven't heard.

Houses of the Holy is my fav, but man seeing "first is dull" and "second has good bit" makes me wanna ;_;

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:16 (twelve years ago)

Their only good song is All of my Love

Treeship, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:19 (twelve years ago)

I think I speak for everyone when I say that

Treeship, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:19 (twelve years ago)

*All my Love. I always mess up that title.

Treeship, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:24 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9XSDoHSsTg

Zachary Taylor, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:26 (twelve years ago)

InThrough is boring

lol waht

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:40 (twelve years ago)

it is! I fuck with Presence but Out Door can succ it

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:45 (twelve years ago)

And the first is dull, the second has good bits but all were done better by the Small Faces..

RONG

the late great, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:03 (twelve years ago)

soo wrong that I cannot even begin to explain why

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:06 (twelve years ago)

except just ;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:07 (twelve years ago)

Led Zep 2 is my fav of the first four. "Lemon Song" is the shit

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:15 (twelve years ago)

The studio version of 'We're Gonna Groove' on Coda is great. But even better is the live version on the DVD.

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:19 (twelve years ago)

Led Zeppelin through Houses of the Holy are all 5 star albums. it just takes a while to get to that point but it usually happens.

Bee OK, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:20 (twelve years ago)

and than you get the double Physical Graffiti.

Bee OK, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:24 (twelve years ago)

SongRemains = meh live recording

The original version, maybe, but the Rhino reissue is amazingly well remastered and includes a bunch of bonus tracks, and the whole thing is re-sequenced - now it's an amazing live album. Highly recommended, in fact.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:26 (twelve years ago)

will have to check it out. I actually only had a beat-up vinyl copy of it!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:30 (twelve years ago)

I : Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
II : Ramble On
III : Tangerine / Immigrant Song
IV : When The Leeve Breaks
Houses of the Holy : over the hills / rain song

Those songs alone give the albums at least 4 stars for containing them.

Moka, Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:09 (twelve years ago)

Let's Talk About The Led Zeppelin Epic Track- "Carouselambra"

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:15 (twelve years ago)

moka otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:54 (twelve years ago)

over the hills is my fave led zep, on certain days

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:55 (twelve years ago)

SongRemains = meh live recording

The original version, maybe, but the Rhino reissue is amazingly well remastered and includes a bunch of bonus tracks, and the whole thing is re-sequenced - now it's an amazing live album. Highly recommended, in fact.

― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:26 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I believe this is the version in the box..

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:09 (twelve years ago)

And the first is dull, the second has good bits but all were done better by the Small Faces..

Agree with this mostly fwiw. Led Zep I to me is just Communication Breakdown + a load of boring hippy crap. It's not that I hate Led Zep, I like a lot of stuff from II-Physical Graffiti.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:15 (twelve years ago)

:((((((((

my super-power is to turn into a bowling ball (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:30 (twelve years ago)

I do think you have to be picky with most of them tbh. I and II have filler. PG *might* but I've never quite got my head round the whole thing. Presence I used to feel, but it's a slog for me now (oddly, the two ten-minuters fly by). Coda you only need to flick through once.

But III, IV, HOTH and on a good day ITTOD are straight-through grand.

Intrigued about this SRTS edit though. It's always had good bits, but no way did I think there was a great album in there busting to get out.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:39 (twelve years ago)

I did presume "InThru" to be the last 'jewel' in the box, do have to 'slog' through SomgRemains (hey, that's a Stump song!) as rules is rules..

PhysGraf, I do consider one of the all time "great double album, but needs lots of playing before you know it" like the Beatles' white album, and "Sandinista" (I know,etc)

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 09:50 (twelve years ago)

"Good Times, Bad Times" is one of the greatest Album 1, Side 1, Track 1s of all time. OF ALL TIME.

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 July 2013 12:16 (twelve years ago)

I'd skip Song Remains The Same and pay attention instead to the BBC Sessions

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 4 July 2013 12:37 (twelve years ago)

"Good Times, Bad Times" is one of the greatest Album 1, Side 1, Track 1s of all time. OF ALL TIME.

― This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, July 4, 2013 8:16 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:09 (twelve years ago)

Besides the opening vocal on "Bring It On Home" (II)- one of the few Plant vocals that I really dislike - the power of that track is ALL TIME.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:25 (twelve years ago)

A good place as any to post Marcello's outstanding review of Presence: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/led-zeppelin-presence.html

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:27 (twelve years ago)

I'd skip Song Remains The Same and pay attention instead to the BBC Sessions

Is not in't box.

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:31 (twelve years ago)

What does the box look like?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:32 (twelve years ago)

A cube (I mean each side the same size), black, inside slides out..

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:34 (twelve years ago)

http://www.toymania.com/columns/spotlight/images/s1hellraiserbox.jpg

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:41 (twelve years ago)


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