The Geir Hongro listening club

the famous neolithic composer?

the poor sap could never fathom playing parallel fifths on an ARP2600

As for the 12 tone composers, they were really something of their own. Their fixation on dissonance was an intellectually interesting idea that sadly couldn't ever sound anything but shit. And musical skills is partly about learning how to avoid music sounding like shit, so there...

thanks, I can now save years of my time by skipping music school since I already know half of what entails musical skill.

The other half is "being middle class" so you're probably pretty much done.

just for reference, which chords should I avoid in order to not sound like shit?

half-diminished 7ths are OK but aug9s are right out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyGe6tD9Vfw

NO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21kpcD3pXfQ

OK

just for reference, which chords should I avoid in order to not sound like shit?

The ones that don't have a name.

They all have names!

cool, so I can use this and this

Generally, perfect pitch makes notation obsolete though.

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Does perfect pitch also imply perfect timing?

lol headexploding xpost

also according to Geir everybody with steady-tone tinnitus is a genius, because guess what, if you've got an F# whistling away in you ear 24/7, you have perfect pitch

stop stop i'm already dead

Oh shit if I can just sing a C# above it I've got an act I can take on the road.

They all have names!

So, if you play C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, B Flat and B at the same time, what is that chord called?

Berg uses a 12-note chord in the Altenberg Lieder iirc

xpost craptastic

xpost to geir's chord well, I don't know! But there will be some sort of "C diminished 9th augmented 10th etc etc"

Well.. Still it was very much that kind of chord I was thinking of, and typically, Berg used it.

Generally, chords that were not used by Debussy, Strauss, Ravel nor Mahler probably should have remained unused.

Not very quickly, but I can. Generally, perfect pitch makes notation obsolete though. The most genius musicians always have perfect pitch.

― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:23 PM (35 minutes ago)

not to continue the geir pile on, but as a guy who knows some stuff, that bolded part is uh completely insane and actually makes no sense.

like so if an orchestra was trying to learn a piece you would i dont know have a different orchestra play it for them or hum it at them individually or

No see because as long as the composer is also the conductor, he just hums the entire score simultaneously for the orchestra, who also have perfect pitch and can match him in real time.

hahahah xp

oh, Strauss?

this thread is entertaining because it shows how someone can be so ill-aligned with truth

so basically we need a whole bunch of tuvan throat singing composers to get this ball rolling, i am all for it

I doubt there has ever been an orchestra where all members had a perfect pitch. But then, with today's technology, you have the one man band. So there.

"so there"

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re: The entire notion is simply preposterous. It's not even ridicule-able, it's just fucking stupid.

You mean the notion of perfect pitch? Or Geir's notion that all great musicians have it?

well perfect pitch def exists, but it is super rare - perfect relative pitch is more common. the bigger ridiculous thing here is the idea that it somehow replaces musical notation because again the two things are not actually related.

The latter xp

guys I have been telling you for years that Geir on classical is like me on chemistry i.e. I do not know jack shit about chemistry. I can name some chemicals but do not let me near your beakers and burners I will just break shit & do not argue with Geir about classical he has some vague ideas he copped in school 20 years ago and didn't fully grasp.

should stick w/ prefab sprout imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQnHtHonavU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lk8pUeLCwQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpgaEFmdFcM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzZMhAM2SqU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGov3KG1JCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y5ctKvDJVk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGXRyc7xJP4

God fucking damn it I wish I hadn't stopped studying piano just when it was starting to get good but young dudes are gonna draw their dumbass lines of independence where they're gonna draw 'em I guess

^^

probably wouldn't have the few gray hairs that I do now (I'm 24) if I'd stuck with trumpet (or maybe not, my struggles would have been simply transposed onto something else).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SCHLUeGGD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeL7pAXgaaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lJziJbu97w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1lFpyMYDhs

i'd like to make a special commendazione for luigi dalla p, the quaderno is a shining emerald even w/in the radiant and fecund pastures of the GHLC