the juke/bmore/bloghouse frankenstein dance music they play at clubs

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Tiga and Zombie Nation do apparently, it definitely splits the difference between 2004 and 2008 though.

DJ Ecchi (Siah Alan), Friday, 12 December 2008 04:46 (seventeen years ago)

3. don't see the appeal of this. there's gotta be much better baltimore club music than blaqstarr. why is he so popular?

dude is a genius and changed the game in so many ways, but yeah he's not very representative or the best per se, and "Bang" is not really a club song and also one of his worst songs.

Anne Dwutt (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 04:57 (seventeen years ago)

what are the good songs

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 12 December 2008 05:10 (seventeen years ago)

Tote It, Get My Gun, Hands Up Thumbs Down, Ryda Gyrl, Slyde, Supastarr, In The Air, Stop, Check Me Out Like, Crazy Leg Wit It, Rockstarrz, Automatic Lover, Put Ya Gun In Da Air, Get Your Hands Up

Anne Dwutt (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 05:24 (seventeen years ago)

and how did he change the game

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 12 December 2008 05:47 (seventeen years ago)

mostly in the vocals (creepy falsetto leads and super-layered wordless chants) but also the way he used drums (really innovated as far as Baltimore club with all kicks and hi-hats, no snares or breakbeats) and synths, he basically flipped the scene on its ear around '05-'06.

Anne Dwutt (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 05:54 (seventeen years ago)

"tim you need to send me some CDs again!"

Okay! Will try to make actual delivery more prompt than last time.

Tim F, Friday, 12 December 2008 07:13 (seventeen years ago)

hay ill take cds from tim but feel free to send them in sendshare form

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:04 (seventeen years ago)

And this is what I ride for.

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1618&Itemid=28

1. Karizma - Broken Beats
2. Rapid - Report To The Dancefloor
3. DJ Mystery - Changes
4. Lil Silva - Funky Flex
5. Conan Liquid - One Time (For Your Mind)
6. Geeneus - Yellowtail
7. D1 - Ongie Bongie
8. D Malice - Monopoly
9. L-Vis & Bok Bok - Bongo Jam Refix
10. Crazy Cousinz - Infiltration
11. L-Vis 1990 - Flux
12. Rod Lee - Let The Horns Go
13. Moves!! - All Skate
14. Silverlink - The Message Is Love (L-Vis 1990 Dub)
15. DJ Zinc - Ghosttrain
16. Bok Bok - No Need To Front 2009
17. Ikonika - Please
18. Kode 9 vs LD - Bad
19. Hunger Pains - In Middle (DJ Slugo Remix)
20. Drop The Lime - Hear Me (Buraka Som Sistema Remix)
21. L-Vis 1990 - The Night Slug

DJ Ecchi (Siah Alan), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:53 (seventeen years ago)

D1 had a joint i loved earlier this year -- lemme see if i can find it

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

there it go

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

havent checked yr mix yet but this D1

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:55 (seventeen years ago)

...oops

this D1 is not frankendance

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:55 (seventeen years ago)

btw DJ Slugo is 'real schitt' club music here in chicago -- real well known dude who plays 'actual' juke shit -- i guess sorta like rod lee?

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

i dunno that mix looks kinda interesting just from the tracklist dude -- but including funky house even suggests this isnt typical frankendance stuff

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

Well Bok Bok has got no use for fidget.

But its kind of the vibe that I find exceptable, mostly purist with a smattering of awareness of other genres thrown in. I just don't live in London or Chicago or Baltimore so I'm not quite sure how to approach it myslef.

DJ Ecchi (Siah Alan), Friday, 12 December 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)

xpost. you're talking about the same D1 as is in the mix, which looks to me like mainly UK tings/dubstep etc, not really very frankensteiny if i'm not mistaken?

I'm loving is maybe my 12" of the year.

what U cry 4 (jim), Friday, 12 December 2008 22:03 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, its mostly a funky mix with some other stuff thrown in for flavor.

DJ Ecchi (Siah Alan), Friday, 12 December 2008 22:42 (seventeen years ago)

is 'i'm lovin' really dubstep?? i must have a weird misconception of dubstep

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)

Its dubstep in a perfect world, D1 has always been on his own tip really.

His early beats were really heavily techno influence (way before it was the in thing).

And recently he's had a huge fun house side to him.

DJ Ecchi (Siah Alan), Friday, 12 December 2008 22:46 (seventeen years ago)

well the ideal for dubstep is that it's anything at around 140 bpm with a big sub and a bit of swing but yeah, obviously most of it doesn't sound like "i'm loving" which is a lot more like funky and house etc.

what U cry 4 (jim), Friday, 12 December 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

or what siah said.

what U cry 4 (jim), Friday, 12 December 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

'I'm Loving' sounds like classic house music to me. It has a lot of 88-92 touches to it (strings and other keys, bongos, the rhythm of the bass, not to mention the vocals). I really like it.

dubmill, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:03 (seventeen years ago)

you almost had me with

"i hate to validate disco nihilist / tombot style grousing about production technology but i am sort of coming around to their take on software vs hardware

why bother concentrating on programming rhythm when you can just take an mp3s and chop them to bits on your laptop? then it just becomes a matter of showing off your taste in your "productions" rather than, i dunno, musicality or something. no surprise then, that this music is like the domain of blogger dudes who check turntablelab every day?

― moonship journey to baja"

but then you had to go all

"seriously, though, it's been a pretty bad year for dance music."

and

"i guess that explains why i've spent the year either listening non-populist stuff like space disco or balearic revival or edits, and blatantly non-dance music like dub techno and the dubby end of dubstep. and tons of old, old, old music.

― moonship journey to baja"

and i realised that we are not on the same page at all.

pipecock, Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:32 (seventeen years ago)

pretty sure he killfiled you, dude

what is my attitude (gbx), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:52 (seventeen years ago)

"pretty sure he killfiled you, dude

― what is my attitude (gbx)"

i'll send you a memo when i give a fuck

pipecock, Saturday, 13 December 2008 07:27 (seventeen years ago)

Unfortunately you are both on the same page.

also^ redundant.

Pipecock doesn't give a fuck about anything except hearing his own voice bounced off others opinions. That much is obvious.

fandango, Saturday, 13 December 2008 12:47 (seventeen years ago)

i dont think they were on the same page at any pt.

moonship is saying its bland how little 'musicality' (which i take to be a sorta-myopic term that talks about how the tracks are constructed?) these guys are trying to incorporate where pipecock is arguing the same bland position as the hipster djs but from the other side, that the ONLY interestin thing about dance artists is a focus on this 'musicality'/craft etc

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

took that night slug mix out running today and thought it was sorta ruthless and boring.

what is my attitude (gbx), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:38 (seventeen years ago)

yah i started listening to it and it was feeling pretty same-y to me too -- but not offensive in the same way frankendance is

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

more like tasteful "check out how they sequenced these drum patterns - pretty cool huh" -- not v. populist which frankenhouse aims for

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)

I think Tim would feel some level of vindication regarding that mix.

I like it, but it does represent a more macho (and outsider) take on UK Funky compared to say what Footloose is DJing. It shares a lot of Marcus Nasty's approach to the genre.

DJ Ecchi (Siah Alan), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:47 (seventeen years ago)

But the big distorted basslines in parts are straight out of bloghouse so I thought it was appropriate, even if the guys who made it would disavow any influence from that direction.

DJ Ecchi (Siah Alan), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:51 (seventeen years ago)

I meant a HTML page deej. It was meant to be a funny.

fandango, Sunday, 14 December 2008 05:58 (seventeen years ago)

"Pipecock doesn't give a fuck about anything except hearing his own voice bounced off others opinions. That much is obvious.

― fandango"

i'm interested in people having ideas that are a little less moronic than whether a music is populist or not. there's a difference between populist and bullshit, this music doesnt seem to recognize that. people actually like good things when they hear them instead of just hearing the same old same old that every hip joker likes to toss out there. is listening to dubstep and the non-dance genre of dub techno (?!?!) really someone's reaction to how terrible shit like this is? there's no middle ground of people making music that is actually good and fun to dance to without being completely retarded?

"pipecock is arguing the same bland position as the hipster djs but from the other side, that the ONLY interestin thing about dance artists is a focus on this 'musicality'/craft etc"

is that really what i'm saying? how does my love of Dance Mania to the point of near obsession jive with this theory of yours?

"more like tasteful "check out how they sequenced these drum patterns - pretty cool huh" -- not v. populist which frankenhouse aims for

― ohhhh we pop champagne (deej)"

if cool drum patterns are not populist, how was jungle or 2-step ever chart music in the UK? who invented this line of thinking that for dance to be populist it must be as bad as possible?

pipecock, Sunday, 14 December 2008 08:55 (seventeen years ago)

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Local Garda, Sunday, 14 December 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

no one has answers to my questions. somehow i'm not surprised.

pipecock, Monday, 15 December 2008 01:50 (seventeen years ago)

Nobody cares what you have to say. Somehow I'm not surprised.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 December 2008 01:50 (seventeen years ago)

"Nobody cares what you have to say. Somehow I'm not surprised.

― Matt DC"

except for the thousands of visitors to my blog and the people who pay me to write for them.

pipecock, Monday, 15 December 2008 03:10 (seventeen years ago)

FACE

beyonc'e (max), Monday, 15 December 2008 03:11 (seventeen years ago)

omg

what is my attitude (gbx), Monday, 15 December 2008 03:54 (seventeen years ago)

was that a pic of your mom giving me a hummer?

pipecock, Monday, 15 December 2008 04:07 (seventeen years ago)

ew evan why do you have a pic of your mom blowing pipecock

beyonc'e (max), Monday, 15 December 2008 04:10 (seventeen years ago)

no u dummy it's a pic of when my mom bought him an suv

what is my attitude (gbx), Monday, 15 December 2008 04:12 (seventeen years ago)

oh haha your mom is so nice!!!

beyonc'e (max), Monday, 15 December 2008 04:12 (seventeen years ago)

should've given him a hybrid

808s & heartdrake (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 December 2008 04:13 (seventeen years ago)

which was then hosted by the web information company, alexa.com

what is my attitude (gbx), Monday, 15 December 2008 04:14 (seventeen years ago)

"should've given him a hybrid

― 808s & heartdrake (J0rdan S.)"

is that what you call it when she sticks her finger up your butt while giving you a hummer?

pipecock, Monday, 15 December 2008 04:14 (seventeen years ago)

she did it as payment for some stuff pipecock wrote about dance music for her

what is my attitude (gbx), Monday, 15 December 2008 04:15 (seventeen years ago)


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