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has anyone heard the françois k remixes of "disco inflitrator" yet?

tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yup. they pretty much suck.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

eek. i guess i'm not too surprised, but it's still a disappointment. i thought he was a weird choice for a remixer.

tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

did he body-and-soul-ify the track or try something else?

tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i would like to hear what alan braxe and fred falke or (gasp!) daft punk would do with it.

tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

or wolfgang voight just to make this thread recurse upon itself into infinity.

tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

if he'd body and soulified it it might have been quite interesting but he electrofied it, made it sound totally bog standard and left me wondering where his talents went to. i don't really think fk has done anything that great since his 'fk' ep in the mid 90's.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

the fk remix listed in the opening post to this thread was quite good i thought. i don't know where that sits in relation to the fk ep. i was hoping for great things with the last kraftwerk remix, but it was just a bit ehhh from what i remember.

tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I didnt know mu were on DFA
hmm...

vanessa novaeris (novaeris), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

yup, that green velvet is pretty great. that one slipped my mind.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

well i loved the Moloko one (but i never heard the original)

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah the Moloko one is amazing, alot better than the overblown original.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...
http://www.juno.co.uk/covers/194638-01-front.htm http://images.juno.co.uk/full/CS194638-01B-BIG.jpg

hadn't heard anything about this so was quite surprised to see it on the racks and even more surprised to see that it was going for the princely figure of £3 (for 50 minutes of music).

granted the tracklisting does, at first glance, look a little unadventurous (lots of mixes from a specific artist grouped together) but it works unbelievably well . hearing the great (new?) cute/psychedelic delia and gavin track "5" mixed into tiga's mix of "tribulations" has got to be a musical moment of the year. after 2 plays i prefer this to any other dfa mix so far. put it this way it just made cleaning my oven and fridge out a hell of a lot more fun.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

Also, there is supposed to be a two-disc set with all (or most) of the DFA remixes coming out soon.

van igloo (van smack), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

I heard about this holiday mix but assumed it was just a promo thing.

the lack of rhythm machine (haitch), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

it just made cleaning my oven and fridge out a hell of a lot more fun.

This should be printed on a label and stuck on the packaging.

F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=33660765&blogID=55230912

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

The other bonus is that it retails for the price of a CD single and it will also be available for download (as 1 long track) in the states on November 22.

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I this mix was fun - I was surprised at the delia & gavin track, wondered if it was itself a DFA remix (as the Black Dice "ABA" is definitely a remix)

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Are these - http://www.dfarecords.com/radiomixes/ - new?

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 9 January 2006 04:13 (twenty years ago)

yes. (they were on a YSI thread a couple of weeks back though.)

pompe vers le haut du volume (haitch), Monday, 9 January 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)

they're available from the page linked to if you click download!

biz, Monday, 9 January 2006 07:20 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Nine Inch Nails remix coming up, hopefully sounding more interesting than that Blues Explosion remix from last month...
-- JoB (jobdewi...), May 6th, 2005.

you've got it wrong - that BX remix is the jam!
-- rajeev (rajeev...), May 6th, 2005.

Right now listening to The DFA Remixes Chapter One and you're right. I got it wrong. Too bad the NIN remix coudn't make this compilation though.

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:47 (twenty years ago)

I love the DFA remix of Goldfrapp's "Slide In", it's got that same kraut-disco vibe as the "Rise" remix but more unashamedly joyful and beautiful.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:50 (twenty years ago)

The new Tiga remix is also great. It starts with a quite sinister Suicide vibe, picks up a glorious organ riff and ends in two minutes of feedbacking whoooosshhh.

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeah that one's great too! I really feel like they're hitting a new peak in terms of synthesising all of their current influences into something that still sounds very er unstudied and immediate, and oddly very current sounding! I feel bad for having doubted their ability to stay abreast with the rest of dance music...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:56 (twenty years ago)

I don't know much about this german band shit robot, but the DFA mix of their "triumph" track is pretty good too.

wu-tang clan analogue (haitch), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 12:15 (twenty years ago)

Am I the only one who thinks it's all so polite at this point that it's just boring? I mean does anyone really need studied extended disco versions of whatever new single. The remixes are so bland and safe, they're all starting to sound like b-sides from "Come With Us".

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 13:41 (twenty years ago)

I mean it's not that I think they are irredeemably bad remixes, just kinda dull and pointless.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Ronan! Come With Us is a great underrated record (with even better B Sides) and they beat us at the Grammys - twice!

here are some more electronic battle weapons due later this year:

The DFA - Remixes Chapter Two

01. Far From Home - Tiga
02. Shake Your Coconuts - Junior Senior
03. She Wants To Move - N.E.R.D.
04. Colours - Hot Chip
05. Hand That Feeds - Nine Inch Nails
06. Slide In - Goldfrapp
07. Destination Overdrive - Chromeo
08. In A State - UNKLE


GALKIN (GALKIN), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:07 (twenty years ago)

ugh

lf (lfam), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)

I think Come With Us is their best album!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)

perhaps the DFA are missing a Richard Ashcroft type figure, haha.

no seriously tho I think I would like the mixes better with vocals or twisted remnants of the originals.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:22 (twenty years ago)

that is why that record is good, cause there is none of that revolving door brit-pop guest star shit on there. it was just straight up dance. I like it, anyway. It is just loud and dumb and fun. Richard Ashcroft is basically the reason Tim G quit UNKLE so I doubt that will be happening! Which mixes exactly dont have the vocals or remnants of the original (maybe the UNKLE remix?)

GALKIN (GALKIN), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Richard Ashcroft is basically the reason Tim G quit UNKLE

The whole vocal collaborations thing, or Ashcroft in particular? Spill it, Galkin!

mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

no the idea of the collabs etc was just silly to him, so I can gather. i think he wanted to make a "The Time Has Come Today / Berry Meditation" type LP, but other people had other ideas.....so he split. Skylab #1 was probably closer to what he wanted at that time....he worked a lot on what became the major force west album "93-97", so that gives you an idea of where he was at....

GALKIN (GALKIN), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

speaking of DFA, Joakim's latest single "I Wish You Were Gone" has a remix that sounds like he basically wanted to make "Beat Connection" again. It seems too close to be a coincidence. Is it a rip, or was someone at the DFA involved in this somehow?

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

no, my lips are sealed, but through my sealed lips you can hear me say "couldnotagreewithyoumore".

GALKIN (GALKIN), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I agree with Ronan.

Elvis Cocker, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Oh I wasn't seriously praising Ashcroft don't worry.

I guess the Tiga and the Unkle one are both vocal-less. I found the Tiga one pretty disappointing. I dunno, as I say, there's nothing about the remixes that I think sucks particularly just it feels a bit like the sort of work that would be much better on a full length album and not in a remix coming out every 2 months.

The Unkle one is odd, it should be amazing but it just feels kind of flat to me, maybe not raw enough I dunno, just something about it reminds me of Josh Wink or someone where massive suspenseful buildup does not necessarily equal lots of fun.

I guess I'm cursed in that I listen to these releases with a view to playing them at our night and alot of the DFA ones, even the ones I like like the Hot Chip, are kind of unplayable, they do sound different and fresh but they are not really club music to my ears, and as a result I kind of wonder at their purpose.

I know they don't need a purpose but then the DFA are held in very high esteem by alot of people so I guess it's ok to expect a high standard. (maybe I just feel nothing since the first few LCD releases has ever come close to that initial excitement, and in many ways could some of these "DFA" remixes be any further from "Yeah" or "Losing My Edge"? I often wonder what level of involvement Murphy has in the DFA remixes, maybe Galkin can shed some light)

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

what else are you playing, ronan? i play mostly older disco and electro stuff, but with newer, dirtier things mixed in, and dfa stuff often gets the best response from the crowd. especially the john spencer remix and the gorillaz remix, to name just 2 recent-ish ones.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I think that's the difference between where you guys live. Americans only really like Rock music because they think dance music is too gay and it makes them uncomfortable. DFA tracks are clearly rock. People in Erp do not have this same problem and wonder what all the racket is about.

Elvis Cocker, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:13 (twenty years ago)

i do agree that there is an implicit homophobia in america's aversion to certain kinds of dance music, but to be honest, some of the other stuff i'm playing is pretty gay sounding. so i wonder where the divide is? whether we're talking about skatt brothers and "walk the night" or tiga's update of "you gonna want me", there is an undeniable gay quality to so much dance music that exists outside traditional american notions of what constitutes "gay music" (i.e., "cheesey" house, hi-nrg, etc.)

not to get too divergent.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

I know you guys know this stuff (do the DFA?), but it always bears repeating. "You Gonna Want Me" is an interesting example. The original is gay-ish, but still has a rocking, post-punk edge that I think makes it "OK" to many American ears. My girlfriend would still call it "gay" and tell me to play some hip-hop, however, I think hipsters would be ok with it, as long as it wasn't part of a continuous house mix.

Elvis Chow, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:32 (twenty years ago)

I mainly agree with Ronan (found both the Goldfrapp and NIN remixes fairly bland) but I don't think DFA stuff has ever fit in very well with traditional club mixes--or, at least, I tried to do a mix that incorporated the "Shake Your Coconuts" remix and couldn't find a place for it. Not that I actually know what I'm talking about, of course.

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

(I think the divide lies pretty much 100% in the drums on DFA remixes, incidentally, but maybe my ears are too attuned to that.)

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:41 (twenty years ago)

I agree that it is definitely production nuances and not song forms that makes the difference in the way people perceive the tracks. The drums and the bass in DFA productions and remixes are almost always brutally masculine in a somehow apparent
heterosexual sounding way. This sometimes seems like it must be a conscious decision when you put their productions next to one of James Murphy's dj mixes, which often feature a lot of "gay" music.

I haven't cared much for most of the DFA mixes of more mainstream artists like NIN or N.E.R.D., mostly because they seem unwilling to engage the songs on any more interesting terms than to make a DFA version of the track. Which is exactly what they're being asked to do, of course, so it's not as if that's any big offense or surprise. It's just that when they remix pop songs, it makes me wonder to what extent there is a DFA REMIX MACHINE, because they come out, usually, sounding more or like their other remixes-- rmxs made from songs that were rarely too far from speaking the same languages as the DFA's original productions, so the lack of huge noteworthy differences seems somehow much more acceptable. It just seems like a wasted opportunity or a cashed check (and maybe that's all it is, and that's probably totally fine).

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:53 (twenty years ago)

I think the Goldfrapp mix is a thing of rare splendor though.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I need to listen to it more.

I think you are maybe equating "masculine" with "rock" a little too much. I guarantee you a lot of my more rock-oriented friends would not view such tight disco drumming as particularly masculine (or necessarily gay, but still). The issue seems more "live" v. "electronic." Even though I know DFA drums are heavily (and masterfully) edited, there's still that little bit of swing and difference in mixing that makes them sound different even from sampled live drums.

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Maybe you're right, but if that's the case then I genuinely can't see the distinction.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 20:08 (twenty years ago)


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