Wilco - The Whole Love

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The finished album may be one of the group's most adventurous yet. "I do think it's a little bit more obnoxious and irreverent of a pop record than people have heard from us, maybe, ever," he says. "And that's exciting. But I have no doubt that the second this record becomes available there's somebody sitting in a basement at their computer with the word 'meh' already typed up, waiting to post a review."

markers, Saturday, 23 April 2011 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

If it were actual whining, I'd agree with you; Tweedy's comment seems much more playful to me, like he just said it because he wanted to make fun of the word "meh."

clemenza, Saturday, 23 April 2011 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

yeah what's going on in this thread is closer to 'whining' than what he actually said

iatee, Saturday, 23 April 2011 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

get well soon everybody

markers, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

Considering the first few responses in this thread were kind of in that dismissive vein, I think Tweedy makes a valid point.

Binjominia, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

ok not whining per se, but it's definitely preemptive snark. like, everyone says they're excited about the new album they're working on and that they hope people will love it, of course they know not everyone will but what's even the point of going "oh some loser already decided to pan the record before he's heard it"

some dude, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

I think we should get Tweedy to post on ILM. We could talk about Wilco; maybe he'll poll their oeuvre; but I bet he has a killer archive of Floyd bootlegs & it would be cool to get access to that.

Euler, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

also butthurt is kinda Tweedy's thing, like going back to Uncle Tupelo days ("Watch Me Fall", "We've Been Had") & continues into Wilco days.

Euler, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1809188793

buzza, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

lol

markers, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

Their previous album should have been titled "Meh"

Beggar On A Beach Of Shite. (PaulTMA), Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

Wilco (Meh Album)

some dude, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

Being Butthurt

markers, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

Wilco (The Album) was my favorite Wilco release in many years, so meh to you. xps

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 23 April 2011 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

this is a pretty blatant misreading of his quote. he's not taking a shot at dudes who download music in their basements, he's taking a shot at people who have prejudged the album before even hearing it.

I was referring to his use of the by now cliched designation of critics as guys in basements.

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 April 2011 22:13 (fifteen years ago)

http://westkanye.info/obrazki/mixtape/GetWellSoon.jpg

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 23 April 2011 22:19 (fifteen years ago)

Does Kanye ever wear skinny jeans?

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 April 2011 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

I don't really ever feel like listening to a who;e Wilco album but I like a bunch of individual tracks

" experimental-leaning rock and "cinematic-sounding country music…you know, folk music. "
^sounds good to me

"jesus etc." is chamber folk and if that is what they're going for then good for them. i'd tell them to lean in towards chamber stuff and lean away from country stuff though

poplocking nazis from space (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 23 April 2011 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

Man, Jesus etc. is so good.

She Got the Shakes, Saturday, 23 April 2011 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

^^^ my favorite Wilco song.

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 April 2011 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

The fact that Jay Bennett is no longer alive continues to bother me. It would have nice to think that one day they could eventually work together again - Jay said as much himself.

Beggar On A Beach Of Shite. (PaulTMA), Saturday, 23 April 2011 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

that pic is from like 10 years ago before skinny jeans really existed in rap

some dude, Sunday, 24 April 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)

haha -- I was musing aloud.

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 April 2011 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

(it had nothing to do with the pic)

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 April 2011 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

I can't wait to completely ignore this album

calstars, Sunday, 24 April 2011 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

I can't wait to read 1000 posts about this album but never listen to it

wewetyourpants.com (rip van wanko), Sunday, 24 April 2011 00:48 (fifteen years ago)

I can't wait to ask markers if there's any songs with prominent Nels Cline bits I should check out

some dude, Sunday, 24 April 2011 00:53 (fifteen years ago)

i can't wait to read 1000 posts about this album by people who never listen to it.

the felonious against the corrective (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 April 2011 01:16 (fifteen years ago)

there was a pink floyd record store day thing?

tylerw, Sunday, 24 April 2011 01:32 (fifteen years ago)

I can't wait to read 1000 posts on this thread before anybody's heard the album!

some dude, Sunday, 24 April 2011 01:32 (fifteen years ago)

I can't wait to visit those busy basements!

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 April 2011 01:34 (fifteen years ago)

Has there ever been much excitement about a new Wilco album on ILM before? Unless we go ~m~e~t~a~ I don't see it happening for this one (unless maybe they cover "Wish You Were Here")

Euler, Sunday, 24 April 2011 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

tyler - the RSD Floyd thing was the 1966/67 live thing on vinyl. I don't think Floyd has any control over those couple of recordings.

back on topic: I'll be excited if this sounds builds on the sound of Summer Teeth. If it sounds like anything they've made in the past decade I don't care.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 April 2011 01:52 (fifteen years ago)

unless the new wilco is an album of grateful dead covers i ain't listening.

scott seward, Sunday, 24 April 2011 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

It's a Phish tribute in your honor.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 April 2011 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

I can't wait to ask markers if there's any songs with prominent Nels Cline bits I should check out

― some dude, Sunday, 24 April 2011 00:53

ask me again when the record comes out and i'll let you know!

markers, Sunday, 24 April 2011 02:06 (fifteen years ago)

this might be interesting, Nels-wise:

Tweedy is being modest. One new song, "Art of Almost," has an experimental feel, like 2009's "Bull Black Nova" and 2004's "Spiders (Kidsmoke)." It's a seven-minute, two-parter that starts as a free-form jam, punctuated with burbling synths, mellotrons, and tribal drums. It swells into a punk-ish coda, with virtuosic, fuzzed-out guitar shredding courtesy of Cline, the band's secret weapon. Tweedy says the inspiration for the track came from Neil Young. "It's a sort of atmospheric song you might hear on Tonight's the Night," he says. "I don't know what happened to that song, to be honest. It just sort of morphed over time into something that's a lot more interesting to us now."

markers, Sunday, 24 April 2011 02:07 (fifteen years ago)

That right there takes away what little interest I had.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 April 2011 02:08 (fifteen years ago)

the only wilko i will ever need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rViBFgjChH0

scott seward, Sunday, 24 April 2011 02:09 (fifteen years ago)

oh man my hero. nels who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yimn3Y19R-A&feature=related

scott seward, Sunday, 24 April 2011 02:13 (fifteen years ago)

back on topic: I'll be excited if this sounds builds on the sound of Summer Teeth. If it sounds like anything they've made in the past decade I don't care.

pretty much works for me.

the felonious against the corrective (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 April 2011 02:18 (fifteen years ago)

i've heard tweedy play a pretty nice version of "ripple"

tylerw, Sunday, 24 April 2011 03:19 (fifteen years ago)

There's a new song floating around with a lyric that sounds like Tweedy trying to bed a straight dude. "Open Up Your Mind" or some such. It's a good song, in that John Lennon-y kinda way Tweedy writes sometimes.

I haven't cared about Wilco in a long time (my wife is the resident Wilco fan in her house, though even she tuned out after Sky Blue Sky), but I think, to counter Tweedy's claim, there are some of us who really WANT To like a new Wilco album. I really hope this album is amazing. But if it isn't, my feeling won't be 'meh,' my feeling will be "thank God there's still a band of this caliber selling records and making rock and roll in 2011, even if I don't dig what they're doing right now."

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

Well said, Airport! That's the best response yet. I feel the same way, too, as I'm not into the jam band direction though I'm down with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

why have yr record titled something rad like get well soon everybody when you can have it titled

THE WHOLE LOVE

markers, Monday, 27 June 2011 07:38 (fourteen years ago)

http://pitchfork.com/news/42991-new-wilco-i-might/

markers, Monday, 27 June 2011 07:39 (fourteen years ago)

why have yr record titled something rad like get well soon everybody when you can have it titled

THE WHOLE LOVE

― markers, Monday, June 27, 2011 3:38 AM

http://i53.tinypic.com/eslve0.jpg

markers, Monday, 27 June 2011 07:41 (fourteen years ago)

The Whole Love >>>>> Get Well Soon Everybody.

In fact, I was thinking about finding this thread and remarking on how Wilco is really good with the record titles.

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 June 2011 07:47 (fourteen years ago)

not feeling it

markers, Monday, 27 June 2011 07:58 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.badmovieplanet.com/unknownmovies/pictures/thunderpants2.jpg

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 June 2011 08:00 (fourteen years ago)

It was OK. Ticket window seemed a bit overwhelmed, and traffic was predictably slow getting in, but the vibe was nice even if the band's bro contingent was in beyond full effect. Posters sucked, surprisingly.

I just don't like Nels in this context. Don't like his tone, don't like his solos, don't like "Impossible Germany" ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

They can do better than this:

http://c961031.r31.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/07.08.12-Geneva-Nate-Duval-350x466.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Yes they can, decent idea with horrible execution. Heh, I love "Impossible Germany" and his tone.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

does tweedy play much lead these days? i kinda dug it when he started stretching out on guitar in the pre-Nels days.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

I just don't like Nels in this context. Don't like his tone, don't like his solos, don't like "Impossible Germany" ...

lol that's prob my favorite Wilco song

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

It might be my favorite Wilco song ... title.

Not a lot of Jeff skronk, though I dig it when he does.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

eight months pass...

this album is really good, which is surprising as ive never really liked any of their post-YHF stuff which i found boring and meandering. this is the wilco sound i missed listening to.

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Saturday, 16 March 2013 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

It's because they started doing power pop again. They were good at that. Wish they would do more of it

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Saturday, 16 March 2013 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

I wish they will do more of One Sunday Morning.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 16 March 2013 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

^^^this

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Saturday, 16 March 2013 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

i wish Jim O'rourke will rejoin them

nostormo, Saturday, 16 March 2013 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

This is their best album since YHF.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

It's because they started doing power pop again

its not just power pop though, the mellow songs really hit the spot. "whole love" and "one sunday morning" make a great ending to the album.

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Saturday, 16 March 2013 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

eight years pass...

if someone told me this was their favorite wilco record i'd be like yeah that's legit

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:36 (four years ago)

the title track is SO good

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:36 (four years ago)

it's my favorite post-YHF one at least

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:38 (four years ago)

Not my favourite Wilco record, but the bookends are probably my two favourite Wilco songs. I don't think they could ever top One Sunday Morning

imago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:38 (four years ago)

They're the well-publicised tracks though. I wonder how the tracks in between hold up

imago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:39 (four years ago)

the bookend epics are fantastic yeah, some of their very best. the rest is a step in the right direction generally - it's nice to hear them in a more power-pop mood again - but a bit inconsistent.

just realised what "born alone" reminds me of is the horse race music from ocarina of time of all things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am6FTMRa_M4

ufo, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:47 (four years ago)

my second favorite wilco album. besides the consensus highlights, i've always really liked "black moon." eerie david crosby-esque mood on that one. really good.

get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:57 (four years ago)

This is probably my favorite album from their current/latter day line-up. It really feels underrated. I already said this in another thread, but xxxp "One Sunday Morning" is indeed amazing, and the more I think about it, the more impressive it seems: a low-key song (not a jam or improvisation) that goes on for twelve minutes. It has ONE real hook, a very simple and modest melody, and yet it's more than enough to carry the whole thing.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 00:39 (four years ago)

Still can't remember how the four gentle songs that appear every other song in the middle go, despite being at a show where a fight broke out during Red Rising Lung

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 01:26 (four years ago)

DAD FIGHT!

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 01:35 (four years ago)

three years pass...

recent expanded issue adds demos and radio sessions. i love this album.

"Don't ask me, I just work here." (Austin), Friday, 23 May 2025 03:56 (one year ago)


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