Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

fucking awesome post lex.

his stating that he's str8 is ok too, assuming he actually is - one of the most pernicious ideas i've noticed is that gay rights is something only for gays to concern themselves with

two different things. the latter, his concerning himself, that's fine. the former, his stating his str8ness (specifically: needlessly over-stating) sets up subcontext placing the gays as this alien other thing he is definitely not a part of and does not identify with (but he's cool with them). it's the original no homo.

hey guys, naming my new album "I'm Gay" NO HOMO

Drake's new album: I'm Goy

I'm 'Ye

not usually into Funny or Die stuff, but this is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4VZcQU55CM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPcZz0skcTw

also, i hung out with Lil B a few months ago when he played in my neighborhood (literally— he played at this old theatre a few blocks from me in the Lower Bottoms area of Oakland), and he really is a sweetheart. he's paranoid as fuck, but definitely a standup motherfucker.

that was such a weird show!!!

Been thinking about a poll based on which rapper comes out first. Based God v. 'Ye v. Lil Fame v. Freddie Foxx v. Chamillionaire v. Sauce Money v. Other

this was one of the first ILM threads i remember, i think i first read it when it got bumped in 2006 for the NYT story on Caushun

just checked his wiki and woah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caushun

hey tabes if you're still peepin this thread i sent u a webmail

hey hoos, got it, i'll email ya when i'm not too stoned to furbish a propz response

rad

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/05/15/051511-arts-music-rap-homophobia-1-4/

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No mention of Nicki Minaj? She seems pretty important to that narrative.

haven't seen her mentioned in many of these pieces, i'm getting the vague impression that hip-hop writers would rather put her into the pop box and not acknowledge that she might be important to rap

i think it's because despite what she says she portrays herself as 100% straight therefore ppl forget that she claims to be bi

i think her importance isn't whatever her sexuality is, it's about the audience she actively courts and welcomes into hip-hop

young girls?

that too actually

i think her importance isn't whatever her sexuality is, it's about the audience she actively courts and welcomes into hip-hop

― that's my hair no horses up there (lex pretend), Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:53 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah

you still see dinosaurs out there who try to argue that hip-hop is innately a masculine, male space, and to defend it as such, so to have a rapper specifically pull gay men and girly girls (ie not just eye candy or "one of the boys") into it seems pretty important

otm

it's pretty much the opposite of odd future's rejection of anyone who isn't a (specific type of) teenage boy

i think it's because despite what she says she portrays herself as 100% straight therefore ppl forget that she claims to be bi

― J0rdan S., Sunday, May 15, 2011 3:52 PM (1 hour ago)

she has multiple verses on hit songs about taking girls home or having a ménage with a male collaborator plus a chick etc. though

also she's pretty openly a kink fest.

she has multiple verses on hit songs about taking girls home or having a ménage with a male collaborator plus a chick etc. though

― suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:00 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah but all this does is cement the (straight male) notion that (hot) girls want to mess around w/ each other when she has tons of songs & videos centered around 100% hetero relationships

thought the same thing initially, but the kind of outreach lex was praising isn't necessarily a contest to be the most straight-male-unfriendly. "it's about the audience she actively courts and welcomes into hip-hop."

i'm not arguing lex's point

yeah but all this does is cement the (straight male) notion that (hot) girls want to mess around w/ each other when she has tons of songs & videos centered around 100% hetero relationships

― J0rdan S., Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

that just sounds like a catch 22 where no matter what she says, you're going to say it plays into what straight people believe or want to believe about bisexuals (or whether they exist etc.). i mean she raps to a chick in the "Lil Freak" video the same way she raps to guys in her other videos.

not that i'm saying she needs to be hailed as a groundbreaker or anything, but it seems like you're just downplaying any small ways she inarguably has broken out of typical female rapper gender roles/sexuality

i'm not arguing lex's point

okay, saw his argument as the hinge around which this was revolving. like, she's relevant to this discussion because...

you still see dinosaurs out there who try to argue that hip-hop is innately a masculine, male space, and to defend it as such, so to have a rapper specifically pull gay men and girly girls (ie not just eye candy or "one of the boys") into it seems pretty important

Missy was the pioneer for this

in my world lots of girly girls loved Missy.

lots of girly girls love macho man rap too though

I can't make out a word of this shit, but it is amazing.

http://soundcloud.com/le1f/omega

Apparently, he's queer, from New York, and some of his shit (not this track) is produced by Nguzunguzu.

^ amazing is the word. love the seasick worz of beats, like crazy wisdom masters or something. the other self-produced track, "☥ + ☥", is kinda cool, too, but nowhere near as mind-blowing. nguzunguzu & boody b tracks are sick, though. fuckin love this guy.

Loving this.

I guess kreayshawn belongs in here? "gucci gucci" vid contains hints about her orientation that get explicit in some of her other vids.

or does it not count if she hangs w/ OF dudes

His twitter is amazing, also.

http://twitter.com/#!/l31f

"Why couldn't I have been born as Amerie? Not fair"
"if it's about cooking, why isn't it baste god?"
"if i had a pussy i would take it out and clit on em"

he's also producing some tracks on the new spank rock

xp http://www.afterellen.com/people/kreayshawn-is-not-a-raging-lesbian-is-an-occasional-lesbian

I like "☥ + ☥"'s Gyptian flip.

wow, totally missed that the fist time through!