Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

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crossposting this from lil b thread cause relevant: http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/04/lil_b_on_im_gay_sartorial_regr.html

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Friday, 22 April 2011 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

good interview, based god. kudos

O da Huge Manatee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 April 2011 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

I’m an ally to the people, and yes, I am an ally. I am a man that loves women, but I am an ally.

some dude, Friday, 22 April 2011 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

lil' mcbeal

O da Huge Manatee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 April 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

people may not like me making fun of Lil B, but the important thing is that I'm so brave and people will remember me in 100 years.

some dude, Friday, 22 April 2011 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

makes this flaming faggot want to say thank you based god

the tune is space, Friday, 22 April 2011 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

he should point out that he's straight a few more times in the interview

fauxmarc, Friday, 22 April 2011 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

then he wouldn't have space to talk about how important and brave he is

some dude, Friday, 22 April 2011 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

this is the most elaborate "if I act sensitive, girls will sleep with me" plot I've ever seen

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Friday, 22 April 2011 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

hoes on my dick cause i look like marc loi

some dude, Friday, 22 April 2011 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

lmao

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Friday, 22 April 2011 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

i had no idea this was the Vans guy

plax (ico), Saturday, 23 April 2011 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

DJP I don't think the based god is exactly hurting for dates these days

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 23 April 2011 01:44 (fifteen years ago)

I'm honestly a little weirded out by this whole thing

I think I understand it... but I'm still weirded out

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 01:47 (fifteen years ago)

remember this is a dude who once dropped the lyric:

like Waka Flocka... WE ON THE WAY!
all my bitches... ACT GAY!

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

(not that I think Lil B is on some crass cynicism or anything... but he is definitely a hustler, and he knows how to work an angle, even when he didn't pick the angle. if that makes sense?)

((which, again, is not at all to hate on what is unquestionably a gutsy and positive move))

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

i dunno i mean it's sort of a surprising development but it's totally in character.

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:04 (fifteen years ago)

is it really gutsy?

fauxmarc, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:17 (fifteen years ago)

xp I think what people are (not incorrectly) taking issue with is the fact that a casual (or non-)fan could easily be misled into thinking that Lil B is, y'know, an openly gay rapper

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:17 (fifteen years ago)

fauxmarc: I say yes; even if in this case "I am gay" is really code for "I am against homophobia and identify with gay people rather than their oppressors", that is an unusually strong and explicit position for a rapper to take

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

XP

i think he knows that and doesnt give a fuck

dude has a song called "i'm miley cyrus"

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:30 (fifteen years ago)

I say yes; even if in this case "I am gay" is really code for "I am against homophobia and identify with gay people rather than their oppressors", that is an unusually strong and explicit position for a rapper to take

i know zero about this guy other than "commercially sustainable young independent rapper in 2011", correct me if i'm wrong - if that is the case i don't really see his speaking against homophobia as any sort of career-breaking move vs generating press like it is. also while he's cool with the gays under the broader scope of being anti-violence i don't really feel that's exactly the same as indentifying with them, especially when he goes out of his way to point out his status as our hetero hetero i like women hetero messiah or what the fuck ever that is all about. would like to see if there really is anything explicit in the lyrics.

I think what people are (not incorrectly) taking issue with is the fact that a casual (or non-)fan could easily be misled into thinking that Lil B is, y'know, an openly gay rapper

wasn't under the impression anyone was thinking any of this, like the the second i saw a thread about it it screams "jokey press campaign about words" if anything, which hey he sort of made it out to be anyway.

fauxmarc, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/921/capture81.jpg

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:58 (fifteen years ago)

yeah this is someone we need speaking for oppressed people.

fauxmarc, Saturday, 23 April 2011 03:01 (fifteen years ago)

Dude's been visibly speaking against homophobia and playing with hiphop's taboos about sexuality for a good couple years now tho. It's not like some random rapper who's never addressed this kind of stuff in the past just suddenly said "I'm naming my next album 'I'm Gay'" just for controversy's sake (although sure, Lil B does like to stir the pot, no questions there). Like Gr80 said, this is kind of a surprising move, but completely in character.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 23 April 2011 05:37 (fifteen years ago)

yeah and obviously its inevitable that its going to be met with skepticism and misunderstanding but that's totally his style

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 05:40 (fifteen years ago)

Yep.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 23 April 2011 05:40 (fifteen years ago)

if only he could focus that energy on improving his hit/miss ratio, but it's an imperfect world

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 05:49 (fifteen years ago)

lil b comes off like he's motivated more by a) being a massive hippie (~only positive vibes~) b) attention-whoring/shit-stirring than being particularly invested in gay rights, but he also seems genuine, and willing to be an ally who says smart things alongside all of that, so it's ok.

his stating that he's str8 is ok too, assuming he actually is - one of the most pernicious ideas i've noticed is that gay rights is something only for gays to concern themselves with (and, connected, the amount of comments i've seen stating that they're ok with gay people as long as they don't come near me!!!1111). str8 people should also be concerned with gay rights, dudes should be concerned with feminism, all of this should go without saying.

countdown to compare-and-contrast with odd future starting now!

lex pretend, Saturday, 23 April 2011 07:48 (fifteen years ago)

^my man

(no homo)

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 07:52 (fifteen years ago)

countdown to compare-and-contrast with odd future starting now!

they performed lil b's "i'm a pretty bitch" together at coachella

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 07:58 (fifteen years ago)

a) being a massive hippie (~only positive vibes~) b) attention-whoring/shit-stirring than being particularly invested in gay rights, but he also seems genuine, and willing to be an ally who says smart things alongside all of that, so it's ok.

very well-said

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

(whoops I cut off the first part of that sentence but you get the picture)

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

fucking awesome post lex.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 23 April 2011 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

his stating that he's str8 is ok too, assuming he actually is - one of the most pernicious ideas i've noticed is that gay rights is something only for gays to concern themselves with

two different things. the latter, his concerning himself, that's fine. the former, his stating his str8ness (specifically: needlessly over-stating) sets up subcontext placing the gays as this alien other thing he is definitely not a part of and does not identify with (but he's cool with them). it's the original no homo.

fauxmarc, Saturday, 23 April 2011 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

hey guys, naming my new album "I'm Gay" NO HOMO

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

Drake's new album: I'm Goy

some dude, Saturday, 23 April 2011 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

I'm 'Ye

J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 April 2011 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

not usually into Funny or Die stuff, but this is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4VZcQU55CM

eating california rolls of a dude's taint (the table is the table), Saturday, 23 April 2011 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPcZz0skcTw

The Law Firm of Eaton Beaver, PLLC (Eisbaer), Saturday, 23 April 2011 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

also, i hung out with Lil B a few months ago when he played in my neighborhood (literally— he played at this old theatre a few blocks from me in the Lower Bottoms area of Oakland), and he really is a sweetheart. he's paranoid as fuck, but definitely a standup motherfucker.

eating california rolls of a dude's taint (the table is the table), Saturday, 23 April 2011 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

that was such a weird show!!!

sarahel, Saturday, 23 April 2011 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

Been thinking about a poll based on which rapper comes out first. Based God v. 'Ye v. Lil Fame v. Freddie Foxx v. Chamillionaire v. Sauce Money v. Other

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 April 2011 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

this was one of the first ILM threads i remember, i think i first read it when it got bumped in 2006 for the NYT story on Caushun

just checked his wiki and woah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caushun

๑۩۩...۩۩๑ (gr8080), Saturday, 23 April 2011 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

hey tabes if you're still peepin this thread i sent u a webmail

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 06:17 (fifteen years ago)

hey hoos, got it, i'll email ya when i'm not too stoned to furbish a propz response

eating california rolls of a dude's taint (the table is the table), Sunday, 24 April 2011 08:36 (fifteen years ago)

rad

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 08:56 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/05/15/051511-arts-music-rap-homophobia-1-4/

k3vin k., Sunday, 15 May 2011 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

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the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Sunday, 15 May 2011 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

ur computer is broken

k3vin k., Sunday, 15 May 2011 16:32 (fifteen years ago)


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