i was a sucker and ordered from Volcanic Tongue as soon as I saw the post above, even though they were like a billion dollars each. And even then, I just received this message:
Apologies for the delay getting back to you, we've been overwhelmed with Grouper orders. Sorry but the Grouper LPs have sold out, the demand far outweighed what Grouper could supply, we’re very sorry you missed out.
― god is your co-god (Z S), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Same here, tried it at two places now (FE, Reckless) as in actually placing an order and a while later hearing the demand was too high. Does it even exist on vinyl?
― My life with the thrill kill McNult (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 22 April 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Tried FE, VT and Weird Forest, no luck. So i bought the ones on Discogs. Thankfully the exchange rate is in my favour...
― bove, Friday, 22 April 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
just fyi this is gone-gone, i think, now: sold out on fusetron, & at boomkat too, boomkat who were charging twenty-pounds-each for the lps.
― sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Thursday, 28 April 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I want to buy these records. Please make more of these records.
― kraudive, Sunday, 1 May 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, vinyl unavailability aside, Dream Loss is killing me. Haven't even spent any time with Alien Observer yet.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 1 May 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I prefer 'Alien Observer'..had a bit of an epiphany with the title track, on a still, sunny evening waiting for a train with blossom in the air. Need to spend more time with 'Dream Loss' tbh.
― Craiger Lazer (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 1 May 2011 10:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Here's a little bit/interview with Liz. Her part starts around the 4:15 markhttp://www.wk.com/wke/show/dont_move_here/episode/3
― last updated 2 minutes ago by 1 minute ago (van smack), Monday, 2 May 2011 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Norman Records had some yesterday but all gone now:http://twitter.com/#!/normanrecords/status/65078711191470080
― plazzTT, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Listened to Alien Observer last night and it's astonishingly beautiful.
― Matt DC, Friday, 6 May 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link
^^yeah, no kidding. I still haven't listened to dream loss yet, but wow, alien observer is a stunner.
― original bgm, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
and man, the gauzy, low-fi thing just works so well for her sound. the electric piano (is that what it is?) on here sounds gorgeous.
― original bgm, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it's a wurlitzer
― Number None, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
ah, that does sound like a better fit.
― original bgm, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i kinda think alien obsrvr is formless garbage honestly /no whiney
― funperson (Lamp), Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
^Been waiting for someone to say that, really.I don't think it's garbage, necessarily, but there isn't much for me to hold onto.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link
sure, I can see that. not necessarily a negative on a grouper record, tho. (imo)
― original bgm, Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha, that's what everybody I have played any Grouper at all for says. "what is this crap? that's not even music."
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Just play them some Stars Of The Lid and tell them to STFU
― Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I was similarly somewhat disappointed. It's not like she screwed up or anything, either. She just wasn't aiming for the same kind of sound as on dragging a dead deer up a hill. But that for me is her standout release, so while I enjoy this new material for what it is, i've ended up listening through these about as much as I listened to her earliest releases - 3-4 times each - rather than the many dozens of timed I've listened to DDD.
― Z S, Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I love SotL more than just about anything on this shitty planet, btw!
― Z S, Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i can't decide whether it's crap or beautiful. there's something about 'dead deer' that's really moving.
i think with the excess of shitwavegazebrochillwitchhouse or whatever the fuck it is you kids do these days, its hard to tell whether stuff in this circle of drone music has been well crafted, or is just plain no-effort-let-the-pedals-do-the-work garbage
― jumpskins, Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
actually no it's not hard to tell at all, it's either shit or not, but uh, it's changed the way people approach and appreciate stuff.
― jumpskins, Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
The early stuff esp 'Wide' and 'Way Their Crept' is still awesome to me.. 'DDD' was shocking to hear at first, and is less of a straight ambient record than the others.. 'AIA' seems halfway, but less dense than the pre-'DDD' material.
think with the excess of shitwavegazebrochillwitchhouse or whatever the fuck it is you kids do these days, its hard to tell whether stuff in this circle of drone music has been well crafted, or is just plain no-effort-let-the-pedals-do-the-work garbage
It doesn't matter if it sounds good
― Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
'dead deer' is ok, ive never been all that impressed w/ her music but im really not sure what the point of her 'music' even is, it seem p bereft of any ideas, also its not really enjoyable to listen to so
― funperson (Lamp), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
That's a shame
― Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
you can post that twice
― funperson (Lamp), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I think the idea here is taking a lo-fi, indie sound as a starting point and then blur the edges and stretch everything out (in some cases more radically than others). not exactly novel but I think she pulls it off and I wouldn't say the music is bereft of ideas even if it isn't heavily conceptual.
― original bgm, Friday, 13 May 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Just wait until her MTV Unplugged CD comes out.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 13 May 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link
backed by the roots
― sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link
"Slow Walkers is a new collaborative project between Australian sound artist Lawrence English and ambient pop artist Liz Harris, aka Grouper. It's a multi-media project about zombies that will take the form of an album, video installations and a live audio-visual concert." (http://p4k.in/trPvwA)
http://vimeo.com/30846604
Pretty stoked for this. Lawrence English's The Peregrine LP is one of my highlights of the year.
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Monday, 31 October 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
Lawrence English's The Peregrine LP is one of my highlights of the year.
oh really? what's it like? i think he's real interesting but haven't really heard any of his solo stuff. the tenniscoats lp he recorded is special.
― Local Christian Blues (schlump), Monday, 31 October 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
Here's a sample http://bit.ly/sbtPOM and a great piece on The Liminal http://bit.ly/ulpeYw.
I've been a fan since the two Digitalis vinyl reissues of A Colour For Autumn and Kiri No Oto so was primed for a new one.
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 08:26 (twelve years ago) link
A Colour For Autumn is fantastic, pretty excited to hear this news.
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link
Great interview with Liz in the new Wire, I was totally clueless on the biographical stuff. Mostly about her upbringing as a member of a cult-ish commune called The Group and the influence of that on her music.
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
the peregrine is indeed beautiful
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
OOH tell me more about the cult
― the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 November 2011 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
Okay, from what I can remember, it was a commune based at a large estate in the Sonoran mountains that was into Fourth Way spirituality. Children were encouraged to think of the group as one big family and consequently were persistenly moved around between different sets of parents. They were given a lot of freedom to roam around the estate and so spent a lot of time outdoors, but apparently Liz Harris didn't mix with anyone from outside the community until she was eleven when she got sent off to public school, where obviously she was a complete outsider. This was when I think the commune was collapsing anyway.
Meanwhile, her father had left the commune previous to this and as a result Liz didn't feel wholly a part of the group but was instead was in this limbo between that and the outside world. The article then goes on to talk about this theme of inbetween states as a central part of her work. It was useful!
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link
(also Manuel Göttsching is on the cover, it's a nice issue!)
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link
i wish that magazine weren't so expensive! is the Göttsching article long? worth reading?
also wow, what a mess of words here:
is never without some task around which and in connection with which it can alone exist. When this work is finished, that is to say, when the aim set before it has been accomplished, the fourth way disappears, that is, it disappears from the given place, disappears in its given form, continuing perhaps in another place in another form. Schools of the fourth way exist for the needs of the work which is being carried out in connection with the proposed undertaking. They never exist by themselves as schools for the purpose of education and instruction.
cults are so interesting
― the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah I'm not sure I completely understand that wiki entry, it's still about as clear as mud to me.
The Göttsching piece is pretty much focussed entirely on E2-E4 btw. Haven't read it yet though.
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
^^ That makes me want to buy it even more
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
there's also a piece about sandwell district
― sisilafami, Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
The Visitor 12" by Grouper & Ilyas Ahmed is available from http://littleaxerecords.com, under distributed titles.
I'd been looking for it for a while.
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 09:17 (twelve years ago) link
“Spent the last two weeks writing sketches/demos for forthcoming collaboration between me and Grouper for the upcoming Ninja Tune Bug album.”
http://www.factmag.com/2012/01/11/the-bug-working-with-grouper-on-new-album/
― Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, very interested in how that's going to turn out
― Chris S, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:28 (twelve years ago) link
Me too! Maybe like a droney lo-fi, dubbed out version of Liz Frasier with Massive Attack?
― Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:30 (twelve years ago) link
err, Liz Fraser obv
― Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:33 (twelve years ago) link
totally, in a general sense, although hopefully very much its own thing as well
it's nice seeing this new Ethereal/Witchy Girls + Beats sound happening in a lot of places, as that's prob one of my fav combinations ever
― Chris S, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:45 (twelve years ago) link