with a constant stream of artists released songs
^^^meaning Kanye's GOOD Friday songs.
― lilsoulbrother, Thursday, 21 April 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
it's not like there wasn't a similar dogpile of opinions the day "Power" leaked
― some dude, Thursday, 21 April 2011 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link
personally i find the incessant delay culture of major label music really tedious. if the album is ready, put out the single and stick to your release date, instead of nervously pushing it back and trying to make more hits if the first thing you realize isn't an instant smash.
― some dude, Thursday, 21 April 2011 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
"girls (run the world)" was co-written by terius? i didn't see that one coming
― lex pretend, Thursday, 21 April 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link
and is apparently called "run the world (girls)"
http://static.popdash.com/gallery/6923068_run-the-world-girls.jpg
well at least she can make a better cover than gaga
here's the final version & it's on itunes in an hour.
― PΓ☼LΞG☼ (prolego), Thursday, 21 April 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link
okay YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
― I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Thursday, 21 April 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link
"Pon De Floor" has some serious instant-appeal-to-lizard-brain effect on me, I'd probably like a Bieber song with this a the foundation
― I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Thursday, 21 April 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link
haha i give it 6 months til that theory is tested
― some dude, Thursday, 21 April 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
okay those comments are the best
I particularly like the one deriding this as a horrible trend-chasing ego trip that contains the sentence "In the famous words of Aretha Franklin 'Who’s Zooming Who?'"
― I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Thursday, 21 April 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i will eventually get sick of this but it's pretty cool right now
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 April 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link
putting the original synth line back in is a VERY GOOD LOOK
"Pon De Floor" has some serious instant-appeal-to-lizard-brain effect on me
same here - this works exactly like the best sort of mixtape beat-jacking track. i don't think that's mutually exclusive with a lead pop single, either.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 21 April 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
yup
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 21 April 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay this to me just sounds like Beyonce singing over "Pon De Floor", which I've sort of always heard as this goofy Tim-and-Ericy type thing and can't really take "seriously" or whatever. This just reminds me of that one LFO song ("Shove Piggy Shove") that Bjork just sang vocals over top of and released as her own ("I Go Humble"). Like, this isn't a Beyonce song.
― ToeJam & Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 April 2011 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link
"I Go Humble" was great! There is nothing in principle wrong about turning someone else's instrumental into a song.
― Tim F, Friday, 22 April 2011 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
more than anything i guess it just seems strange that with her infinite resources and infinite collaborators they couldn't come up with anything more compelling than...this?
― Jacques_Lamure, Friday, 22 April 2011 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
No I mean I LOVE "I Go Humble" but, like, it's not really her song... I mean this song is fine and everything but it just feels like some Beyonce acapella mashup. I mean, it IS just a Beyonce acapella mashup.
― ToeJam & Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 April 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link
brb, looking up "I Go Humble"
― I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Friday, 22 April 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link
also in technical terms, a song is a piece of music performed by the voice, so there is no way that these COULDN'T be Beyonce's/Bjork's songs since the vocal lines are what make them songs
― I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Friday, 22 April 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i had no idea that "i go humble" was an lfo track! all these years!
― lex pretend, Friday, 22 April 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Whoa that is cheap! Yeah
what?
― ToeJam & Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
A song is defined as a piece of music performed by the voice. Bjork's and Beyonce's vocal additions are what make these songs, so it doesn't actually make sense to say "it's not really her song".
Basically I'm just being annoying.
― I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, jesus, I never realized the term "song" was voice-specific. Or maybe I did and I forgot?
― ToeJam & Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it definitely throws a monkey wrench in how people her or perceive a song if it contains prominent elements of a song they've heard before. It's almost like you're being invited into the creative process and thinking about X + Y whereas you might otherwise just take it all as a package deal.
― some dude, Friday, 22 April 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
the only thing I'm objecting to here is misuse of the word "song"
― I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Right, I figured as much, but I feel totes sonned now :(
― ToeJam & Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Album is to be called 4... which is better than Bidet and that Sasha Fierce thing I guess.
Whatever, this video is gonna be insanehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3x_yiRm9K4&feature=player_embedded
― PΓ☼LΞG☼ (prolego), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
!
― al b. surly! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
anticipating
A brief questionnaire from Billboard:
http://bit.ly/la9g2K
It doesn't sound like it will be on the album but I would've at least like to hear the sessions of this:
I started off being inspired by [Afrobeat music pioneer] Fela Kuti. I actually worked with the band from "Fela!" [the hit Broadway musical based on his life] for a couple of days, just to get the feel for the soul and heart of his music; it's so sexy, and has a great groove you get lost in. I loved his drums, all the horns, how everything was on the one. What I learned most from Fela was artistic freedom: he just felt the spirit.
― Trying to Find Every Nicole Wray Song Is A Bitch (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, she was talking about her love for Kuti in the same article where she posed "blacked-up".
― ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
At 0:28 in the video when the horse kicks up on his hind legs...that should be the lp cover!!
or not.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a cool bit, though.
haha this always happens with pop artists, you hear their new album title/see the new cover and your immediate reaction is THAT IS SO AWFUL, WHYYYY, and then you remember how bad all their previous titles and covers were
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm really not sure how i feel about this run the world song
― j lol (surm), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
like i'm not offended by it but
― j lol (surm), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it sort of came and went without any impact.. extremely forgettable
if I was her I'd just scrap it and make it a "bonus track" or whatever... NO ONE likes it
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
it's just like was that a comeback
― j lol (surm), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i like it!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link
imo it's kind of sad when people run from their own singles at the first sign of resistance -- good song or bad, if she put it out in the first place she should stand by it, work it for at least a month or two before moving on to something more radio-friendly
― contenderoni (some dude), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I actually like it. I was lukewarm on the demo but since they added the synth line from the original "Pon De Floor" it has improved the song big time. Plus, a lot of people hated Deja Vu and the accompanying video but I thin it's been accepted by as a solid song in her catalog.
How can you call this a comeback when she has been working consistently since 1997? I'm not trying to act like a devoted fan but I feel like using hyperbole language like that doesn't base discussion of music in reality or context. Plus, since she has worked since 1997 the girl can be excused if she wants to experiment or a song doesn't hit right away.
― Trying to Find Every Nicole Wray Song Is A Bitch (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
*but I think it's been accepted...
I don't hate this song but Deja Vu >>>>
― al b. surly! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
imo it's kind of sad when people run from their own singles at the first sign of resistance -- good song or bad
I still hate Nicki for bailing on "Massive Attack." It wasn't perfect but god damn it was the best Missy Elliot song that wasn't Missy Elliot in a long time.
As a former bass player, that Deja Vu fucking owns!!! Darkchild should've kept that sound around before going all electro a la "Telephone."
― Trying to Find Every Nicole Wray Song Is A Bitch (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
If people still released albums every calendar year, comeback talk would hopefully go away and each new album would feel like less of a make-or-break event. That'd be good for pop music, imo.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link
xp both those songs are great tho
― al b. surly! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link
jf otm
I still hate Nicki for bailing on "Massive Attack."
SERIOUSLY
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
what would have made it perfect: kick sean garrett off the chorus, get busy signal on
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
This is the exact reason why I went through a 60s/70s Motown phase after college. I was so impressed that a label could steadily churn out albums and singles that were innovative and listenable. Even if the song or album didn't hit, they just went ahead released the next one with no big public crisis.
Even during the 80s/90s, when pop was really making money, a pop star could take 2-4 years between albums and not have the public (the media/industry is a different story of course) wait to see them fail or "comeback harder" (whatever the fuck that means).
― Trying to Find Every Nicole Wray Song Is A Bitch (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link