2011 Rolling Black Metal thread

thanks!

is the Oval side tiny little micro-tracks like the thing they did last year?

Yes, all but one, which is six minutes. It's some of the dullest stuff he's done.

I used to like Oval but not heard anything recent at all.

Are they like Circle but a little flatter in the middle? (ok ok, sorry)

I don't do this that often but I thought people might be interested in this: Tony Wilson a UK/Jamaican hip hop fan who emigrated to Oslo explains his theory of parallel evolution between Mayhem and N.W.A.

De Mysteriis Dom N.W.A

I think Mayhem and NWA have similarities in the way that they both redefined their respective genres and made them synonymous with the cities they hailed from. NWA like Mayhem have their fair share of tragedy (Dead/Euronymous Vs Eazy E) and estranged members (Count Grishnackh/Ice Cube). I personally don’t think it’s a stretch to compare Ice Cube’s solo records AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted and The Predator to Burzum classics like Aske and Filosofem . Moreover Cube like Grishnackh was also accused of racism (against Koreans) and antisemitism.

all of this is stretching it quite a bit

yeah but I do think there are some legitimate parallels between Euronymous and Easy, and maybe Varg and Ice Cube...

they are male musicians

they are not cats!

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/juicyfrt/sarahel.jpg

they are both from places that they are associated with
they both made original sounding music
they are both controversial

^really isnt saying much

the racism issue is SLIIIIGHTLY different w/r/t varg don't you think?!

probably...main point was more aarseth/eazy, my impression was that both were leaders of their particular groups who exploited the sensational aspects of their chosen genres to gain notoriety...

I know v. little about Eazy-E, and even less about Aarseth, but I don't need to be told that they're not cats...

Euronymous was John, Varg was Yoko.

both were leaders of their particular groups who exploited the sensational aspects of their chosen genres to gain notoriety...

otm, just wish this was explored more as it's really the only comparison that can be drawn w/out stretching things until they disappear

the racism issue is SLIIIIGHTLY different w/r/t varg don't you think?!

Yes, because Varg hates blacks, while Cube merely hates Koreans, women, Jews, and gays (less bad) and is, lest we forget, black himself

0_O

just to be sure we're on the same page roxy, the clause "who exploited the sensational..." is meant to modify 'leaders' and not 'groups' as again the impression I got was that both were v much opportunistically pushing for their (extremely influential) respective bands to embody the transgressive/criminal/revolutionary extremes of their respective genres, and both were motivated to do this out of personal gain...

but I'll be honest and say that I got this impression from a post by username Goreshovel in the Mayhem vs. Burzum thread, who called Euronymous "a Satanist who loved money"...if there's truth to that statement, then I don't think it's too much of a stretch then to call him black metal's Eazy E...

What's wrong with a Satanist loving money? Seems pretty Satanic to me. In fact, I recall accusations of Euronymous being a communist, an allegation that would certainly fly in the face of him being a, err, capitalist.

xp but if not I'm willing to shut up and order Lords of Chaos on Melcat

(nuthin wrong, except for the obvious; w/ that logic, nuthin wrong with Eazy loving money either...)

the racism issue is SLIIIIGHTLY different w/r/t varg don't you think?!

Yes, because Varg hates blacks, while Cube merely hates Koreans, women, Jews, and gays (less bad) and is, lest we forget, black himself

0_O

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, April 18, 2011 2:23 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

lol @ the idea that varg only hates blacks, but even aside from that:
did cube actively endorse genocide and write 100s of screeds supporting it, as varg did from his prison website?

just to be sure we're on the same page roxy, the clause "who exploited the sensational..." is meant to modify 'leaders' and not 'groups' as again the impression I got was that both were v much opportunistically pushing for their (extremely influential) respective bands to embody the transgressive/criminal/revolutionary extremes of their respective genres

― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Monday, April 18, 2011 3:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

oh sure this is otm as i said above, but the other parts (the aske comparison -??, etc) come off as attempts to draw more comparison than necessary - the above is enough

if this had been it's own separate thread it could have been a clusterfuck, so thanks for doing it here lol where whiney,deej,j0rdan & the other goons are unlikely to be reading.

im sure at least two of those people search for the most recent uses of their names, so thanks

LOL. I can't believe anyone does that

im sure its tough for you to believe that people engage in such obsessive behavior about something so frivolous

;)

^^^ LOOOOOLLLL

I thought only 15 yr old girls did that... My good friends' daugter does that, and she is growing up to be quite the bitch...

only 15 yr old girls actively endorse genocide and write 100s of screeds supporting it?

genocide of williamsburg residents?

Stream of the new Krallice album here http://www.npr.org/2011/04/17/135382480/first-listen-krallice-diotima

YES!

THANK YOU AG

lmfao @ npr streaming krallice btw

don't know anything about NPR but they certainly seem to stream some good metal.

NPR:

NPR, formerly National Public Radio,[1][2] is a privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization that serves as a national syndicator to 797 public radio stations in the United States of America.

NPR produces and distributes news and cultural programming. Individual public radio stations are not required to broadcast all NPR programs that are produced. Most public radio stations broadcast a mixture of NPR programs, content from rival providers American Public Media, Public Radio International and Public Radio Exchange, and locally produced programs.

Liturgy were great and v nice dudes into the bargain fyi

no split LPs tho sorry Kerr, they're all in the States right now and the band haven't even seen them yet

ahh well, I'll see if Norman recs get any in will be a bit cheaper.

Anyone got any thoughts on the Krallice?

my thoughts are a tumultuous ocean of the darkest purple

I think Krallice - Diotoma is the best BM album I've heard yet this year! How's that for an opinion?

a very enthralling album...

but have you actually heard it yet?

check my last.fm profile if you need proof.

haha i know, was just joking. Gonna give that Cruachan album you've been listening to a go, i reckon it will be right up mordy's alley

The first half of Diotima takes a while to get going, but the second half, oh man.

if you had to pick between the new albums between Liturgy & Krallice, who would you all choose?

I think i'm siding with Krallice atm (just)

Did anyone pick up that last (as in final) Velvet Cacoon CD that's in the 7" sleeve? Or the Clair Cassis LP?

Nope, not heard either.

P aa opal Poere Pr. 33? The one that wasn't so drone-based? It wasn't bad, no Genevieve, but not bad. People really seemed to like the Clair Cassis, left me a bit cold. The last EP I liked though.