Steely Dan: "Steely Dan's name has been popping up as a hip musical crush. Remember, this glossy bop-pop was the indifferent aristocracy to punk rock's stone-throwing in the late 70's. People fought

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (3124 of them)

lol I don't know why I'm defending this review (well actually I do, it's more fun than actually working) but I'm guessing Brent's assertion is that the return album is just as poor as the albums released by the folks who stuck to a regular release schedule, only in the Dan's case their critical cachet and modus operandi plays into their mystique and allows for people to fall all over themselves and accept stuff that most others would consider nonsense. I don't agree with this position but I don't think it's an unreasonable one to take.

Really the opening paragraph where he's openly mocking a demographic he clearly does not understand (anyone of the generation he's talking about who was reading Pitchfork in 2000 was almost by definition a self-selecting group of tech nerds a good bit more tech-savvy than Brent himself) is the only part that's wholly indefensible/stupid.

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

The most risible paragraph for me addresses SD's "silence" during the eighties. It doesn't occur to DiC that the decision to refrain from releasing albums that embarrass their fans or legacy is itself deserving of praise.

― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:06 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

plus fagan released a perfectly awesome steely dan record in 82 called the nightfly

a fort minor forest (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

yep

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

Here, play with this shiny silver Nokia while I chat with somebody else..

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

"I know you've held silly suspicions, if just for a moment, that your ponytail was perhaps pulling back your hairline."

http://www.colum.edu/specialevents/cnfw/images/Brent_dicrescenzo_smt.jpg

omar little, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

haaaaaaaaaaaa

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

http://kidsaquariumsquotes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/1-blobfish.jpg

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

^^^^ visual illustration for "Third World Man."

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

it's hilarious that that entire review is derived from him being just outraged that members of the Dismemberment Plan and Braid were into Steely Dan

absolutely steen hooses (some dude), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

haha waht is that just hypothesizing or some real inside dirt

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

Minutemen were also into Steely Dan iirc

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

haha waht is that just hypothesizing or some real inside dirt

― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:30 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

neither, Brent was just a big stan for the Dismemberment Plan and shortly before this review there was a post on their site about their shared enthusiasm for Steely Dan w/ some other bands, which i assume was the source of the "hip musical crush" thing.

absolutely steen hooses (some dude), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

Brent's love for Dismemberment Plan is itself a Hit Musical Crush.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:43 (fifteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/DonaldFagen/status/56209367455891457

original bgm, Thursday, 14 April 2011 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

John Kyl lost his virginity to "11 Tracks of Whack"- last year.
High five, Senator! #notintendedtobeafactualstatement
6:58 AM Apr 13th via web

President Keyes, Thursday, 14 April 2011 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

The Rudy's Bar and Grill website actually plays Black Cow:

http://www.rudysbarnyc.com/home.html

I think that's kind of funny

rock rough 'n' stuff with h.r. pufnstuf (Hurting 2), Friday, 29 April 2011 04:48 (fifteen years ago)

Found the quote this thread title always reminds me of:

Mark E. Smith (speaking to Luke Haines): "Your music's alright, but it's a bit Steely Dan. We fought wars to get rid of that stuff."

President Keyes, Friday, 29 April 2011 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

man people on ilm love to quote that dickhead

hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

good times

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 29 April 2011 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

man people on ilm love to quote that dickhead

now that's what I call top-shelf bubble-bursting right there

Dr. Suggestban, or How I Learned to Stop etc. (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

XD

hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

Hurting that is a great find. I will be paying Rudy's a visit soon.

calstars, Friday, 29 April 2011 23:57 (fifteen years ago)

Rudy's is a great bar. Free hot dogs!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 29 April 2011 23:58 (fifteen years ago)

I'm coming from a Microdisney direction, but am really happy w/the Steely Dan-isms of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWMauvNnI5s

Lately I'm really wanting more smart-pop-sheen stuff w/cynical et morbid lyrics...

dlp9001, Saturday, 30 April 2011 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

the cheapest seats at tonight's steely dan show are $175?!

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 August 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, steely dan were always some anti-consumerist, diy, punks who ... oh wait a minute.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 4 August 2011 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

sadly that price is probably standard for a lot of big boomer-y acts?

tylerw, Thursday, 4 August 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

Going to see them next week for $33. It's lawn seating at an amphitheater, though.

jaymc, Thursday, 4 August 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

did the cheaper seats already sell out and only $175 ones remain? cheapest nyc tickets were around $75 with fees. which is a lot but not as crazy as $175!

original bgm, Thursday, 4 August 2011 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

oh, this is stubhub, so these are resale requests rather than official prices. still surprised that there's that kind of demand tho

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 August 2011 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

i had lawn seats for the Dan's show on Tuesday -- my wife bought tickets for me as an anniversary gift, but the tickets say they were $35 dollars (well worth it, awesome show)

some dude, Thursday, 4 August 2011 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

i enjoyed yr review, hopefully going to go see them at the mn state fair this year

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 August 2011 21:36 (fourteen years ago)

Saw them last weekend at the MGM Grand at Foxwoods. Seats were $55, but we were pretty far back. Good show, tight horn section, but frankly don’t see the point in seeing them live again unless I’m down front. Pretty much sounded like carbon copies of the recordings. And Walter Becker’s soliloquies were pretty annoying.

Jazzbo, Friday, 5 August 2011 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

The quickly established and towering consensus seen on this thread made me incredibly happy to read. My girlfriend got us tickets for my birthday to see Gaucho ("and other hits") performed in its entirety in a few weeks... I can't wait.

Clarke B., Friday, 5 August 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

And Walter Becker’s soliloquies were pretty annoying.

I love these guys live but this is otm

original bgm, Friday, 5 August 2011 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

To be fair most of the audience seemed to love his monologues (there was a long one during "Hey Nineteen"), but I found them fairly tedious.

Jazzbo, Friday, 5 August 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

what does he blather about? Fagan has always seemed like the more interesting one to me

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 August 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

When I saw them, Fagan hardly spoke, but Becker did give a long monologue - I think it was also during "Hey Nineteen" so maybe they had planned for that in the rehearsals. I can't remember what he talked about, but I remember it being somewhat droll and not that annoying.

o. nate, Friday, 5 August 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

he did a pervy monologue about wining, dining, and sexing your lady during "hey nineteen" when I saw them. it was pretty weird but not that big a deal.

but he also sang lead on "gaucho" which really did not sit well with me. one of my faves!

curious that you find him to be the more interesting of the two, shakey. care to expand on that? strictly as a personality? because on, say, the musical merits of their respective solo albums, I don't think it's even close!

original bgm, Friday, 5 August 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

Yes, that's the same story I heard. Definitely pre-written and rehearsed. I just didn't find it that amusing, but I rarely ever find long monologues interesting during concerts.

Jazzbo, Friday, 5 August 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

So reading through this I noticed I still hadn't come around to the Dan in 2004...not sure when it happened, probably a few years after that. Wondering how many other people arguing against them upthread have had similar changes of heart.

Sean Carruthers, Friday, 5 August 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

six months pass...

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1007

Sick, sick San Diego '74 show. I only know two 1974 boots--Record Plant and Rainbow Theatre--this isn't necessarily the best of the three but it's great to hear a crowd so into it and it's got alot of energy!

Iago Galdston, Monday, 20 February 2012 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, i dig this one because it sounds like more of a rowdy bar scene.

tylerw, Monday, 20 February 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

Why so few threads on Steely Dan?

used to have a crush on Dawn from En Vogue (admrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:47 (fourteen years ago)

because they are terrible

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:57 (fourteen years ago)

damn these dudes are incredible

omar little, Friday, 24 February 2012 00:03 (fourteen years ago)

terriBLY GOOD!

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 24 February 2012 00:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://thriftyvinyl.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/dsc04287.jpg

The best...

Iago Galdston, Friday, 24 February 2012 00:06 (fourteen years ago)

god look at Becker's waist

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:14 (fourteen years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.