ha just looked upthread and saw several silver jews mentions. so much for my "original thought"
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
been listening to a lot of the drag city weirdo troubadour poets (oldham, callahan, berman) lately. really impressive bodies of work from all of 'em...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
a poll of oldham vs callahan vs berman would be impossible to vote on.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
kind of feel like berman has an unfair advantage because he really hasn't been as prolific as the other guys....
― tylerw, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah you are probably right
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
would be an easy choice of callahan for me
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i need to listen to more silver jews though
pitting all three against each other would be like cohen vs. dylan vs. young. i'll let you decide which is which...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I think on ILM berman would win but maybe someone should just do the poll and find out.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Jason Molina would have to be in the poll too
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Callahan got to date Chan Marshall, so he gets a few points for that.
― nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
and Dame Darcy.
― it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
and lisa carver
― kate78, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
he was also liz taylor's last husband
― tylerw, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
and father of ned raggett
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
(not really)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Like the dude a lot but he seems...second string?
Anyway that poll would be good
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
seems like we are afraid to start the poll for some reason
― Mark, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Wire readers might see it?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
haven't had the time to read this yet, but:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/style/2014/07/01/songwriters/
― circa1916, Thursday, 3 July 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link
I just tried to, yeesh, don't bother.
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 July 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
I thought this was really good - https://pitchfork.com/news/bill-callahan-bonnie-prince-billy-and-matt-sweeney-cover-hank-williams-jr-listen/
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPYAnjnh4M
<3
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 08:34 (three years ago) link
Had a horrible feeling that they were going to do an ‘ironic‘ version of it...but it’s absolutely wonderful
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 11:12 (three years ago) link
Bill MacKay is awesome
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
the guitar sounds incredible on this
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that's MacKay!
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
I like his albums with Ryley Walker
so great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
it's not really possible to do an "ironic" version of Dan, they are miles ahead of anyone else in irony
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
I guess I don't know why you'd assume they would do an ironic version to begin with
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link
the song arrived on the same day that tom scharpling promised to dedicate his whole show to telling people why the dan is bad
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link
ugh ffs scharpling
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
this cover is really excellent btw
I kinda want Callahan and McKay to join Superwolf for the next album.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
I think I'd prefer it if Will sang the lead vox? Bill has all the range of a parents-basement Astrud Gilberto fanatic.
MacKay really saves this cover.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link
(that's not to say that Donald had incredible range, yet he understood the limitations of his gift which he then built songs around, as ambitious as he was at the time)
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link
Weirdly I guess I'm the only one who really doesn't like the guitar on this - it sounds like a mess to me.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:55 (three years ago) link
I mean some of it sounds good but all the different layers together sound bad
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:56 (three years ago) link
Bill's vocal is good enough and I like the part where Will comes in on harmony
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link
I mean really this sounds like a fucking mixed level guitar class playthrough
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:59 (three years ago) link
I get nothing out of Oldham while I like a good handful of smog records so it’s gotta be bill
― EvanP, Saturday, 21 November 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link
I don’t know the original song, but I agree w/ man alive re: the guitar playing in that track.
― down like 6:30 (morrisp), Saturday, 21 November 2020 06:06 (three years ago) link
I'm a fan of both McKay and Callahan (indifferent about Bonnie), but this cover is horrendous and really showcases the limits of Callahan's voice
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 21 November 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link
It sounds like there is one good acoustic track, which I assume is McKay, but then there is some real awfulness layered on top, like that sloppy delay electric. But also a fair number of clashy notes and rhythmic ideas in the multiple acoustic tracks. The background "ooohs" are also terrible and take away from it. It's an extraordinarily harmonically and rhythmically nuanced song and extremely hard to cover for that reason. A laid-back, vaguely bossaish cover of it is a nice concept but Bill is the wrong guy to do it and there's a lot of bad, amateurish stuff stepping all over it here.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link
Ah guys. I love this, but any Bill/Steely combo was going to make me happy since those are two Big Musics for me.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
those are two Big Musics for me.Same. I honestly really like Bill’s vocals on this — his voice sounds great over these kinds of chords. But I’m also in the camp that thinks all the guitars here sound like a mess. I made a mono version using only what’s in the left channel and I find it a lot more palatable. Oldham’s vocals are less prominent too, which is fine with me.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Friday, 27 November 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
there are so many of these covers now! I'm keeping a playlist since it doesn't seem to exist anywhere
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7EoNfsSBILMQ9vpxq9KIWv
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link
Oldham's stomping take on "Our Anniversary" is great
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
Thanks Simon!
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link