Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

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yeah transvestites are typically straight men who either get off or just think it's fun to dress up as ladies. Literally just wearing the vestments of the other.

Drag queens are a diff thing entirely, as are transgendered ppl

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

anyway quite obviously you can identify as a transsexual before you actually go through the operation -- in fact my reading of the situation is that it's a completely MANDATORY part of the deal, seeing as no surgeon will do the operation without the person having lived as a transsexual for years prior

As far as I know: yup.

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

ok sorry for not being a dictionary.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

you're a pre-op dictionary

free karl kani (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

true dat.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

So Wendy Williams is back at it again airing out the wrong folks. First, Method Man and his wifey. Now--DJ Mister Cee from Hot 97. The other day, Wendy talked about a certain DJ, who she tried to keep nameless but made hella obvious, who participates in some "tranny activities". No, Wendy wasn't talking about activities with herself, but with some actual trannies

http://blogs.sohh.com/ya_heard/2007/01/guess_whos_maki.html

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whats this abt meth?

ice cr?m, Friday, 8 April 2011 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

i think it's referring to this, from a few years ago:

In 2006 Method Man had a highly personal and highly publicized conflict with TV talk show host Wendy Williams on The Breakdown, an internet show on ONLOQ.com. Williams talked on air about Method Man's wife having cancer, which was something he had wanted to keep private and even her own family members had not yet known about. He said that people who lived next door to him didn't even know, but Williams had dug it up and made it public over the radio.[13]

Williams also reported rumors that Method Man had even been having an affair with his wife's doctor. Method Man first heard of this while in recording sessions in Los Angeles.
“ She said me and [the doctor] was fucking. What kind of shit is that, man? You don't do that to nobody. I was ready. I was so mad, I was crying right there and I'm like, "I'm gonna kill some fucking body" but my [Wu-Tang] friends kept me in L.A.[14]

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Friday, 8 April 2011 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

woah method is ice cold in this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du1UViOs4Hk

free karl kani (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

Yo Majesty are both lesbians. I guess they don't have to deal with issues of masculinity but instead a host of other issues of sexism instead. They seem to have handled it pretty well, but have gone off the radar (hopefully working on more stuff).

Club song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfQT7etnKg

"Lesbian" song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbbvugSXUvc

The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Monday, 11 April 2011 08:16 (fifteen years ago)

holy shit "club action" is awesome. need a 6min edit in high bitrate mp3 asap please

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Monday, 11 April 2011 08:45 (fifteen years ago)

yo majesty put on a great live show - this remix is my favourite thing they've done though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZaZwlB4i9M

lex pretend, Monday, 11 April 2011 08:49 (fifteen years ago)

When you find it, send it to me too. Club Action is so ridiculously catchy.
Just found out Yo Majesty split up (RIP) and Shunda released a solo album.

Anyways,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Homo_hop

The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Monday, 11 April 2011 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

just found the Club Action single and it has a remix by dude from arctic monkeys on it?

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Monday, 11 April 2011 09:26 (fifteen years ago)

transvestite not transexual surely

I always thought transsexual was the umbrella term for all the sexual orientation trans- terms.

The word you are looking for is "transgender", which includes all sorts of people who identify themselves across gender/sex lines. "Transsexual" usually implies a person who feels s/he's living in a body of the "wrong" gender, and therefore needs to go through some kind of physiological change (hormone treatment and/or corrective surgery), even if s/he hasn't done so yet. So being transsexual is strongly connected to both the biological body and the psyche, whereas some other forms of transgenderism may not involve wanting to change your biological body. For example, you may be totally content to just adopt the clothes, styles and physical mannerisms of another gender without feeling the need to correct your physiology.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 April 2011 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

Just discovered these local girls who are a couple and have weirdly a lot of live footage on youtube but seemingly no recorded songs on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxdrlJJlnf4

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

re: deep dickollective
randomly saw a forgettable movie with timm'm once when he was teaching in dc

just found the Club Action single and it has a remix by dude from arctic monkeys on it?

not surprising, they were pretty regular in the pitchfork-y indie dance music circles

i was pretty partial to scattermish's timid fuckup edit in 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocp_OORAGKc

fauxmarc, Monday, 11 April 2011 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

xpost, they're on sub pop now iirc

Lex Pretnd (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 April 2011 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

Doesn't really surprise me. I know they've done shows with Shabazz Palaces, who are also on Sub Pop.

Timm'm had some interesting stuff in this book:

http://viz.cwrl.utexas.edu/files/SweetTea.jpg

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, 11 April 2011 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

prodigy

One of the biggest stories since you have been out is the whole Mister Cee situation. How do you feel about that?
I mean, I really don’t know exactly what happened. I ain’t look into it, or try to investigate all the facts. I’m just hearing what people saying, and radio, so I really don’t have that much of an opinion about it. But to each his own man, if it’s really like that.

It sounds crazy to me, like Cee is my nigga. We fuck with Mister Cee. That nigga loves Mobb Deep and always shows us love, and plays our music all the time on the radio. He’s one of the only ones that does that. It’s few of them, and he’s one of the main ones. So regardless of what, that nigga shows us love, and we’re going to show him love back.

He’s always going to get new music from us. That nigga call, we always going to pick up like “What’s up? You good?” If he wants to do a party, whatever. Whatever Mister Cee wants to do, we fuck with Mister Cee. That’s what it is.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:23 (fifteen years ago)

lmao.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

lol but also fucking good for him

Unusatralian (sic), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

the best— and i mean fucking BEST— Yo Majesty track is the UMYO remix of Kryptonite Pussy. it is un-fucking-stoppable at a dance party. http://www.mediafire.com/?jjeymwdnoyo

eating california rolls of a dude's taint (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

crossposting this from lil b thread cause relevant: http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/04/lil_b_on_im_gay_sartorial_regr.html

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Friday, 22 April 2011 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

good interview, based god. kudos

O da Huge Manatee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 April 2011 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

I’m an ally to the people, and yes, I am an ally. I am a man that loves women, but I am an ally.

some dude, Friday, 22 April 2011 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

lil' mcbeal

O da Huge Manatee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 April 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

people may not like me making fun of Lil B, but the important thing is that I'm so brave and people will remember me in 100 years.

some dude, Friday, 22 April 2011 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

makes this flaming faggot want to say thank you based god

the tune is space, Friday, 22 April 2011 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

he should point out that he's straight a few more times in the interview

fauxmarc, Friday, 22 April 2011 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

then he wouldn't have space to talk about how important and brave he is

some dude, Friday, 22 April 2011 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

this is the most elaborate "if I act sensitive, girls will sleep with me" plot I've ever seen

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Friday, 22 April 2011 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

hoes on my dick cause i look like marc loi

some dude, Friday, 22 April 2011 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

lmao

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Friday, 22 April 2011 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

i had no idea this was the Vans guy

plax (ico), Saturday, 23 April 2011 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

DJP I don't think the based god is exactly hurting for dates these days

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 23 April 2011 01:44 (fifteen years ago)

I'm honestly a little weirded out by this whole thing

I think I understand it... but I'm still weirded out

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 01:47 (fifteen years ago)

remember this is a dude who once dropped the lyric:

like Waka Flocka... WE ON THE WAY!
all my bitches... ACT GAY!

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

(not that I think Lil B is on some crass cynicism or anything... but he is definitely a hustler, and he knows how to work an angle, even when he didn't pick the angle. if that makes sense?)

((which, again, is not at all to hate on what is unquestionably a gutsy and positive move))

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

i dunno i mean it's sort of a surprising development but it's totally in character.

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:04 (fifteen years ago)

is it really gutsy?

fauxmarc, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:17 (fifteen years ago)

xp I think what people are (not incorrectly) taking issue with is the fact that a casual (or non-)fan could easily be misled into thinking that Lil B is, y'know, an openly gay rapper

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:17 (fifteen years ago)

fauxmarc: I say yes; even if in this case "I am gay" is really code for "I am against homophobia and identify with gay people rather than their oppressors", that is an unusually strong and explicit position for a rapper to take

bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

XP

i think he knows that and doesnt give a fuck

dude has a song called "i'm miley cyrus"

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:30 (fifteen years ago)

I say yes; even if in this case "I am gay" is really code for "I am against homophobia and identify with gay people rather than their oppressors", that is an unusually strong and explicit position for a rapper to take

i know zero about this guy other than "commercially sustainable young independent rapper in 2011", correct me if i'm wrong - if that is the case i don't really see his speaking against homophobia as any sort of career-breaking move vs generating press like it is. also while he's cool with the gays under the broader scope of being anti-violence i don't really feel that's exactly the same as indentifying with them, especially when he goes out of his way to point out his status as our hetero hetero i like women hetero messiah or what the fuck ever that is all about. would like to see if there really is anything explicit in the lyrics.

I think what people are (not incorrectly) taking issue with is the fact that a casual (or non-)fan could easily be misled into thinking that Lil B is, y'know, an openly gay rapper

wasn't under the impression anyone was thinking any of this, like the the second i saw a thread about it it screams "jokey press campaign about words" if anything, which hey he sort of made it out to be anyway.

fauxmarc, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/921/capture81.jpg

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:58 (fifteen years ago)

yeah this is someone we need speaking for oppressed people.

fauxmarc, Saturday, 23 April 2011 03:01 (fifteen years ago)

Dude's been visibly speaking against homophobia and playing with hiphop's taboos about sexuality for a good couple years now tho. It's not like some random rapper who's never addressed this kind of stuff in the past just suddenly said "I'm naming my next album 'I'm Gay'" just for controversy's sake (although sure, Lil B does like to stir the pot, no questions there). Like Gr80 said, this is kind of a surprising move, but completely in character.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 23 April 2011 05:37 (fifteen years ago)

yeah and obviously its inevitable that its going to be met with skepticism and misunderstanding but that's totally his style

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 05:40 (fifteen years ago)

Yep.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 23 April 2011 05:40 (fifteen years ago)

if only he could focus that energy on improving his hit/miss ratio, but it's an imperfect world

gr8080, Saturday, 23 April 2011 05:49 (fifteen years ago)


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