ARTHUR - the magazine

i should work for the tourist board for real

cops here suck always stealing yer stash

they use helicopters here to find our weed gardens the bastards

Philly's record not that great either, what with that whole "let's firebomb an entire city block" thing

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philly cops suck for real

cops kinda suck

it's kinda their job to suck

word

um, do you really need a list of incredibly fucked up things nypd has done in the same time period. just because ny cops don't look like hardcore military dudes like la cops doesn't mean they're less likely to shove a plunger handle up your rectum. la cops are pretty scary looking, i'll give you that.

how are the cops in portland oregon and austin texas

Amadou Diallo v. Rodney King

Austin cop let me off with a warning for doing 80 in a 65 last month, so they're cool

LA's Smug problem has magically disappeared, it's amazing!

um, do you really need a list of incredibly fucked up things nypd has done in the same time period.

I wasn't talking about NY, I was responding to Milo's apparent equation of LA cops with cops in any other "medium-sized city in America". which I'm sorry is just not historically accurate.

anyone who doesn't think LA cops are on some next level evil shit should compare their history to that of any other major metropolitan law enforcement agency (with the exception of New Orleans, who are probably the worst hands down) - Rampart scandal, Rodney King, etc etc

I don't think it's really that diff, however. I mean, yeah, L.A. has had some high profile stuff go down. But really, dig in the history of East St. Louis or Cleveland or Detroit or Buffalo or Providence or even Boston and you'll find all kinds of heinous stuff. In fact, Boston, in my opinion, has always exhibited a level of racism that's pretty intense.

Hell, what about this guy?

http://img.mediaspanonline.com/6651/2172141.gif

how about the canadian mounted police?

The cop vs. cop argument is kind of like the Most Racist City in America - guess what, the entire country is fucked up. Deal with it.

I wasn't talking about NY, I was responding to Milo's apparent equation of LA cops with cops in any other "medium-sized city in America". which I'm sorry is just not historically accurate.

when i first came to l.a. via an internship program they brought in a couple lapd officers to give us the lowdown on safety and one was a totally chill laura harring looking cop and the other looked like bill romanowski. the latter advised us that jaywalkers in l.a. were lawbreakers and if you happened to run one of them over, "no big deal". he also said you should be careful about people pretending to be cops and when a girl asked him what he would do if he pulled her over and asked to see his i.d., he replied, "i'd take you out of the fucking car and put you facefirst on the pavement". then he sort of twitched and the other cop sort of shook her head.

*she asked to see his i.d

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Yeah, they've been beating up Mohawks for decades now.

Milo Z - Re LAPD. I don't have my copy of (of course) Mike Davis - CITY OF QUARTZ at hand (guess where it is...) but there's a good potted history of the LAPD in there. IIRC, the LAPD was flushed and rebooted wholesale after WWII in response to (um) rampant corruption. They trained a whole new force according to military principles, since those had just won the war and blah blah blah. The upshot is that cops in L.A. are trained not to be policemen so much as they are an occupying force... This affects the way they talk, the way they carry themselves, the kind of attitude they bring to bear on the population. They are to Establish and Secure Authority at all times. This plays out all the time in pretty scary ways. And yes, it's been replicated since then in other police 'cultures' around the US. Whatever. No point in getting in a 'my cops are worse than your cops' argument. Just sayin.

most cops i've met are pretty cool

i'm white btw

Amadou Diallo v. Rodney King

and even here I would point out that NYers relations w/cops were not so bad that they BURNED DOWN THEIR CITY in response

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They can't. It's brick.

roflz

sf cops are great! fajita-gate, etc.

all cops suck sorta

but jesus christ, there are better battles to be fought if you wanna get into some hc polarization shit

c'mon, now.

ah fajita-gate. good times.

yeah, i dunno at this point

i would like to live somewhere next to the ocean

weirdly enough, sf was the only place that i have lived post-hs and been on the receiving end of homophobic comments (i ain't even gay, so go figure)

again, i would like to live somewhere next to the ocean

everyone seems to have a litany of complaints regarding where they live and where they've lived in the past. god knows i do.

and again, jay has made a rad magazine out of nothing, which is more than i can say for myself!

pls interview dale pendell, etc...

I love SF, but it is expensive. I now live in the South/Appalachia, which I adore as much as any place I've ever lived. So go figure!

oh, i forgot to add that i would alternatively like to live near mountains! california is an easy target, b/c there is mountains/ocean in close proximity

but i would be cool being in mountains, i think

plus southern ppl are friendly!! no, but, it's true!

nah I love SF, I have no real complaints. I mean yeah I hate the cops here but I would probably hate the cops anywhere. It's my way.

More laffs on the LATimes "comments' -- HOW DARE I SPEAK ILL OF THE MIGHTY KCRW, LISTENED TO FROM COAST TO COAST????

i understand fully. i visited the bay area last month and it was the highlight of my yr thusfar.

when i lived there, it was whole 'nother story entirely-- i was totally miserable for the bulk of it, on a personal level. but, if yr gonna be miserable, you might as well be miserable among beautiful surroundings. e.g., go freak yr neurosis out in hawaii...or alaska...or the himalayas

In the end, the people that seem to dig L.A. the most -- or cheerlead for it hardest -- are the ones who can afford to insulate themselves from its faults. These are the people who send their kids to private schools, only get their health care at Cedars-Sinai or UCLA, live up in the Hills beyond the shit and the crime and the ever-dumber billboards and the random shootings and the shitty stucco-and-plastic architecture and miles-long shopping malls that all the rest of us have to live amongst.

None of this applies to me in the LEAST and I love L.A. and cheerlead hard. I spent multiple years living at Vermont and 129th St.; on Sycamore Ave. in Hollywood; and Downtown.

But I realized we live in two way different universes when you were psyched about the lack of A.C. in your pad!

I fear you may see that NYC cops aren't that much more awesome than L.A. ones, though, on the South side of Williamsburg.

The times article's comments

Weird. I'm not typing that out again. Oh well.

the LA Times is, for my money, the best written paper in America.

lolololo

http://gawker.com/5028824/la-give-brooklyn-your-tired-your-poor-your-weary

http://blogs.laweekly.com/play/la-to-arthur-magazine-can-we-h/

But I'm sure he'll find the New Times' syndicated content that fills The Village Voice to be far superior to the New Times' syndicated content that fills the L.A. Weekly.

second place in less than 10 minutes where I've seen someone imply Jay is a coke-snorting trustfunder oh teh lolz

I think 99% of them are saying he's a smug douchebag, so for two people to stretch that a little further, really is to be expected.

^^^

B-b-b-but I didn't say those terrible things. Egads. Now I understand why some interviewees record their interviews...

don't worry jay, no press is bad press ;)

anyway lol @ comments section guy calling little joy a coke den, the dude just sits back there and chills and reads new yorker.

have you even read the new yorker dude

jay what do you think about the cover of the new yorker

i imagine that the la times guy must have had a bone to pick or wanted to create some "controversy", assuming the context of the comments is completely missing

no kidding

but still i really don't think l.a. is any worse than nyc except in terms of public transportation and lack of snow and constant presence of cobrasnake

Cobrasnake is never at El Cholo when I am eating mind blowing Green Corn Tamales and having unbelievable non-Mary Ann's margaritas