2011 Rolling Black Metal thread

saw liturgy live opening for shrinebuilder and thought they had promise. didn't love their first lp but this new track is way more to my liking. if the whole album sounds like a circle/meshuggah hybrid, then I will be very happy. kind of ridiculously catering to my personal tastes there.

what interview, ag?

if the whole album sounds like a circle/meshuggah hybrid, then I will be very happy

that's not how I'd've described it, for the most part it's fairly faithful-sounding BM but w/ more fucked up drumming and some Glen Branca walls of guitar here and there

I think it's terrific

This interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA_p2RLfpsk

wow, those are some public speaking skills alright
for me it's not what that guy (righty) saying, but the way he says it
so so so so
"we're all sensitive" guy not quite as lol, but maybe i just don't watch these interviews much?

i like their music ok though

ooof, that interview.

that's not how I'd've described it, for the most part it's fairly faithful-sounding BM but w/ more fucked up drumming and some Glen Branca walls of guitar here and there

hmm. like I said, haven't heard the album yet, but the new emphasis on using playful time sigs in a hypnotic, repetitive way on "generation" was definitely what I was vibing on. what you're describing sounds pretty good but I could definitely go for a whole album of tracks working the "generation" model.

My wife (watching that Liturgy interview over my shoulder): "They make black metal? They look like indie boys."

Me: "They're from Brooklyn."

Wife: "Ah."

hahaha

you mean " yeah, it's like, they so so so so do make black metal? but yeah it's i dunno not like black metal black metal so yeah um they're from brooklyn"

No I mean "they look like indie boys cuz they live in Brooklyn."

Liturgy album is great!

― Algerian Goalkeeper,

^^ have you listened to the album? how's it like?

i enjoyed 'high gold' way more than 'generation', prob because i was way more into that kind of stop/start instrumental dynamics a couple years back (when i was into don cabarello, june of 44 et. al). nowadays it just kind of, err, bores me? (not that i found 'generation' bad, by all means. only not that much interesting)

also looking fwd for the new weakling...

btw, are there any recent releases by bone awl? the alkerdeel record from last year was A+

but you could close your eyes and still hear it in the way they talked
that's what i meant
doesn't matter if they look like hanson or not
i just never ever want to hear them speak extemporaneously ever again

i didn't think there was anything wrong with that interview?

Got the new Krallice in today's mail.

I'm supposed to interview Liturgy dude for a mag I will not name (not a metal mag, but not The Wire either). I hope he's less of a d-bag when we talk, otherwise the recording will contain many, many slapping sounds.

make sure to note them in the transcript

Q: ...
A: ...

(writer slaps interviewee)

lol

hahahahaha

New Krallice album = awesome.

Yeah, that dude is pretentious and punchable as fuck, and his band looks utterly uncomfortable throughout - you can see them thinking "oh, dude, don't say THAT," but just like when some folks here were talking about how Oneohtrix comes off in interviews, I kinda respect his complete candor and the fact that I think he KNOWS he's being a pompous ass. Dude would be making a lot more friends by towing the line, but he clearly doesn't give a shit. Gotta respect that.

Dude to the immediate right of Hunt Hendrix or whatever his name is a dead ringer for Eddie Vedder, btw.

"transcendental black metal manifesto" aside, most of that interview was them talking pretty bluntly about how they put together & perform their music, which i liked

New Krallice album = awesome.

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"transcendental black metal manifesto" aside, most of that interview was them talking pretty bluntly about how they put together & perform their music, which i liked

― adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:23 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm - I seriously have no idea what individual line or observation in that interview footage ppl have any actual issue with

oh no he paused to consider the next part of his sentence and used vaguely classical terminology to describe part of his music, what a worthless human being

Dude, look how self-satisfied he is at 0:50.

I just pre-ordered the album, man, I'm just saying. Dude kinda comes off sorta

http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/pictures/regulars/ArtieZiff.gif

so checking out Negative Plane

it was quite good. Listening to the Fen/De Arma split, anyone know if De Arma have anything else out?

I interviewed Liturgy a couple years ago. The dude struck me as very sharp.

And yeah, the new Krallice is fantastic, especially the second half, when it really kicks into high gear.

looking fwd for the new aderlating (gnaw their tongues side project). 'devotional hymns' was such a recurrent listen.

also (usually) worth checking : oaks of bethel and njiqahdda (tho the amount of releases makes it almost inhumanely possible to keep track)

^^sort of note to self, actually. ah

I've had to resort to keeping an actual list of Njiqahdda releases that I can tick off. Not really felt the last few (well the last few I got, there's been at least a handful since), so perhaps I need to let go. Will give them a little longer though.

anyone else want in google club? alan n do you ever check email?

so circle of ouroborus have a new split lp
http://moonlightgates.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/circle-of-ouroborus-drowning-the-light-moonflares-split-2011-www-moonlightgates-wordpress-com.jpg

Anyone heard it?

i'll join the google thing

need email

webmail me your email if you dont want to post it here

did liturgy hire animal collective circa 2004 to do the beginning of "harmonia"

http://www.musicfearsatan.com/DSK/nachtmystium_roadburn_(big).jpg

I actually pre-ordered that above lp early in january, my folks paid for it as a birthday present and its still not here!

emailed the label but no reply, guess they might be busy with something...

i haven't heard lots of proper black metal, or even false black metal, but i get the feeling that the rhythms on that liturgy album are a little unusual. does such a sustained morse-code/telegraph rhythmic idea show up on any well-known black metal albums?

Drudkh spinoff with Neige (Alcest) = Old Silver Key

http://www.season-of-mist.com/bands/old-silver-key

Liturgy's rhythms are unique. Talked about it with Hunt-Hendrix the other day.

Liturgy's rhythms are quite reminiscent of Zach Hill and Weasel Walter.

The aim of this new project is to create nostalgic, romantic and light atmosphere of solitude, beholding, childhood and warmth.

ugh. this is what happens when black metallers get old, isn't it?

Liturgy's rhythms are quite reminiscent of Zach Hill and Weasel Walter.

Not nearly as complex as Hill or as "mindlessly" (I put it in quotes 'cause I know he thinks about every hit) aggressive as Walter. He is after something very specific from his drummer, something that's rooted in blast beats but slightly different from the norm.

"mindlessly" (I put it in quotes 'cause I know he thinks about every hit) aggressive

then why even use that word?

Because it's meant to sound mindless, even though it clearly isn't. Weasel is attracted to, and cannily exploits, the imagery of savagery as it relates to black metal and free jazz.

huh, is he normally more… out there? on that new record with mary halvorson he just seems like… a free jazz drummer to me.

Yeah, try the group he co-leads with second drummer Marc Edwards; they've got two releases that are just relentlessly assaultive. You could also check out his Tribute to Masayuki Takayanagi album with Jim O'Rourke and Fred Lonberg-Holm.

i just watched "until the light takes us"... not sure if it was ever mentioned in any of the previous rolling metal threads, but my rental store just got it in this week. it was informative... but a bit weird. fenriz was insufferable. varg seemed to have a better handle on the politics of black metal and gave the genre a good sense of context, but then he got on about his judeo-christian hate and it was harder to take him seriously.

i was hoping that it would be a good primer into black metal music, but the music seemed to be the last thing on the filmmakers' minds.