official liveblog rap album review thread

shawty lo really is the worst. although, he doesn't even try to stay on beat because he knows he can't and i find that mildly laudable

non-rappin' CEOs used to at least be affiliated with someone decent in the first place in order to get famous, deej i know you <3 D4L but c'mon we do not need to be hearing the weakest MC out of that whole crew on the radio every day.

i dont think you guys 'get' shawty lo -- hes obv not a lyricist but hes got way more character than like, generic-ass rick ross

'dey know' and 'foolish' were great songs bcuz of him not despite him -- his album was decent, esp when he was paired with other rappers -- he makes great hooks like '2 sides' by killer mike

"Foolish" is dope but I'll even rep for Rick Ross over him.

why

Rick Ross can appear on a good Khaled posse cut without stopping it in its tracks. Shawty Lo can barely even phone in 16 bars when asked (seriously, listen to track 9 on We Global). It'd be mean to say he sounds like a sickly midget because he is a sickly midget, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna listen to him to be nice.

ftr, I like Turf Talk occasionally, in small doses. his verse on "Hustle" does suck tho

actually, same could apply to Shawty Lo

sounding like Jeezy with pneumonia = not the worst schtick in the world

I think comparing Shawty Lo guest verses to Shawty Lo songs is unfair because, yeah he's not a great rapper, he barely even raps. he's got a really different style that works way better on his own tracks (and hooks) where he can slather the whole thing with his crazy overdubbed singsong voice. he uses voice more like an instrument than to just spit 16 bars. consequently no one gives a shit what he has to say, but whatever, if you like his voice then he can be good

^^^otm

It'd be mean to say he sounds like a sickly midget because he is a sickly midget, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna listen to him to be nice.

lmao

anyway, the only nice thing anyone can say about shawty lo is that he's good at hooks, "foolish" being a really great one. but he truly can't rap for shit, and more often than not he literally ruins a song (soulja boy's "bands" that i posted on sms w/ the caveat of ignoring shawty lo). "dey know" was made completely irrelevant by the remix and all the verses on the "foolish" remix are better than anything on the original.

as for lo vs. the officer, for one ross album is better because def jam buys him better beats, but even that ross has a little bit of dexterity when it comes to rapping. he sounds pretty decent over fast beats sometimes and isn't always bad, NOT TO MENTION that shawty lo stole his rapping but not really rapping steez from ross.

he's got a really different style that works way better on his own tracks (and hooks) where he can slather the whole thing with his crazy overdubbed singsong voice. he uses voice more like an instrument than to just spit 16 bars.

ok what i don't understand is: why if this "style" of him rapping at a sloth's pace is unbearable in a 16 bar guest verse why it works for him over the course of a song and/or over the course of an album. (let's not forget here that you said the shawty lo album is better than king.)

deej is confusing not knowing how to rap and not caring with "character"

i disagree about the "Foolish" remix, his verse on that wasn't nearly as good as what he did on the original and the guest list was pretty weak.

im saying, autotuned birdman bringin lols>jones>ross>shawty lo

jim jones is someone who can't rap and doesn't really care but makes pretty good songs cuz he's got tons of personality

deej is confusing not knowing how to rap and not caring with "character"

not at all

ok, big lols at you saying

deej is confusing not knowing how to rap and not caring with "character"

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― you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:21 PM Bookmark

and then

jim jones is someone who can't rap and doesn't really care but makes pretty good songs cuz he's got tons of personality

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― you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:25 PM Bookmark

shawty lo >>> jim jones

Also, Lo's album has better beats than Ross'

im not about to play captain save a third-rate dipset rapper but his contributions to "we fly high" & "pop champagne" > shawty lo

jim jones ad-libs>shawty lo rapping -- their best songs are comparable but im not giving either tons of credit

Jones is probably a better rapper qua rapper than Shawty Lo, but Lo knows how to put dope songs together

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im not about to play captain save a third-rate dipset rapper but his contributions to "we fly high" & "pop champagne" > shawty lo

― you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:51 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

bad examples, dude. Jones was involved in a pretty decent run of solo tracks & dipset posse cuts before the desperation of the post-"We Fly High" quest for the next big hit began, Lo literally has like 2 notable songs and a few guest verses on songs that would be undoubtedly better w/o him.

Yeah, "Crunk Muzik" and "Certified Gangsters" >>>>>>> anything Jones has done is the past 2-3 years

actually, now that I think of it Jones' verse on "Crunk Muzik" was pretty dope

it's that up top funk
when the truck stops, dump
this where the buck stops, chump

remember when his schtick was that he'd get really quiet for a second, then go back to normal

uh......yeah

is that jim, m@tt? it reads like it was ghostwritten by juelz

it's Jim... could be ghostwritten, but I wouldn't assume that

have u not heard "Crunk Musik," j0rdan???

yeah i have but i dont remember jim jones' verses verbatim

verse

oh weird. i have like every lyric on that song memorized, not on purpose

haha, I think I did at one time, but I haven't heard it in a couple years

if it's crime
lets have fun
lets have fun
it's that old tricky one
triple oh woah woah
if you scared
get your gun

i don't even know wtf that means but i love that song so much

high like space
4-5 on waist

imo the juelz verse on crunk muzik is better on this knuck if you buck remix

waynes verse is great on that too

even by LOLCAMWTF standards this one off crunk muzik is giggleworthy

So tell Lu-cy
that her boo-bie's
loco
Coo-kie
monster
who he?

Jim Jones has as little to do with "Crunk Muzik" being as great as it is as he did making any of their music notable...the only thing he ever actually made much better was Cam'ron's Nas diss over Hate me now, and he didnt rap on it...

but other than this i kinda lost track of what's going on. not gonna defend shawty lo any further cuz yeah he's a clown

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uptown gorilla ft jc

pretty standard track even by zoe's standards, farting horn beep, budget trey songz hook, snooze button. btw why do rappers insist on having bad r&b singers do hooks, it's not all that hard to say some shit on a chorus with out it being by some nasally voiced no one's ever heard of. chop and screw an old pimp c line at least

to reiterate from upthread:

I know there are about a million exceptions to what I'm about to say, and I'm probably challoping, but r&b hooks on non-pop-oriented rap tracks are almost always detrimental.

― A REAL GOON (The Reverend), Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:11 AM Bookmark

what it is ft. rick ross & kollosus

more synthetic horns, from my dude zaytoven tho. can't tell if there's some slight autotune on this but zoe has a sing songy flow on his verse. chorus is pretty good, always thought zoe had a knack for good choruses. didn't pay attention to what he said in his verse tho. officer rawse is good on this beat but it sounds like a bad dj blend in a way cuz the beats on his own songs are always so hi-fi and monolithic and this is just a tinny southern beat. kind of a missed opportunity imo. kollosus is who? zoe had a sick verse on a remix of his single later last year or something and he's completely unremarkable here. song is pretty good tho, pretty standard but it's got a good hook

dope boy

autotune hook, like this one though, it's got a nice laconic stoned thing going on, problem is that he never stops singing. it's almost like "turn my swag on" insomuch as the verses and hook are almost indistinguishable. this one gets kinda boring sadly, had potential. i wonder if zoe's gonna listen back to this album in 10 years and become horrified when he realizes how dated it's gonna sound, kind of a perfect album for 2009 though. only good southern rapper leans hard on autotune and tinny drumma boy beats and knockoff drumma boy beats and comes up with some oddly listenable songs