Exile on Main St.

Actually, "Flip The Switch" is faster (it's alright if this wasn't your first option).

Torn and Frayed=GODHEAD

(I was just goin by what Keef's said)

also, there's a fill Charlie does in the chorus/solo section of Rip This Joint that kills me

"Casino Boogie" is "fast"? Isn't it completely mid-tempo? I can think of at least three or four songs from Exile alone that are much faster. "Turd on the Run," "Rocks Off," "Rip This Joint," "All Down the Line." Maybe I'm not understanding what in it is supposed to be particularly fast...

pick-slide right before the drum roll at the top of "Rocks Off."

Very true. Also they way Mick says awww yeah right then.

Re: Sticky v. Exile, before I had listened to Exile a lot over and over and over, I liked Sticky better, but after awhile Exile blooms and blooms with rewards. Sticky doesn't feel as cohesive. Sticky has moments of greatness but on Exile, all the songs after awhile start to blend together to make this amazing messy kick ass record, the whole album is one big long moment.

arrgh sorry I was thinking of "Rip This Joint" yes. I have trouble keepin these tracks straight without lookin at the record

fastest song the Stones ever cut ... until Flip the Switch, which is a couple of beats faster

xp - Heh, don't blame you--it's that kind of record, in a way! hard to keep track of individual songs. (the truth is, I had to think HARD to remember how "Casino Boogie" went--I always get it and "Ventilator Blues" mixed up.)

One thing I've never fully understood is ILM's fascination with Sticky Fingers, which has a few great tracks and some awful dreck: "Bitch" and "I Got the Blues," especially (the latter of which is maybe my least favourite Stones song up unto Goat Heads Soup).

the organ solo in "I Got the Blues" = UGH!!

(the truth is, I had to think HARD to remember how "Casino Boogie" went--I always get it and "Ventilator Blues" mixed up.)

You need to listen to Exile more! Ventilator has an awesome weirdo beat, Casino Boogie has hardly any bass drum until the end.

No, trust me - I don't need to listen to it more! It's probably one of my most-played records ever. It's just with those two for some reason I always confuse them.

There's nothing on EOMS with the cumulative impact of "Sister Morphine," "Dead Flowers," and "Moonlight Mile," even though it's their best.

i don't know, dead flowers is fun and all, but it's sorta corny and cheesy? sister morphine has always sounded like a joke. i do like moonlight mile, but it's no sway.

Sticky Fingers, which has a few great tracks and some awful dreck: "Bitch" and "I Got the Blues," especially (the latter of which is maybe my least favourite Stones song up unto Goat Heads Soup).

this is so true, esp re: I Got the Blues which is just too painful to listen to. I always find myself skipping around Sticky Fingers as well, the sequencing is weird and its a very draggy, plodding album when listened to all the way through.

Dead Flowers is my favorite Stones song, cuz I like to think of it as Mick's younger self singing to his older self.

"Dead Flowers" is a joke with a sting.

I want to second Matos on the greatness of "I Just Wanna See His Face". I don't get the impression that any of the Stones was anything like a Christian at this time (and for the purposes of this post I don't care), but when I hear that track, I feel longing of the sort you hear Christians talk about. I'd love to find some Pentacostal church where that was their main anthem!

I definitely love "Moonlight Mile," which has to be one of the weirdest sounding songs they've ever recorded. I kind of like Jagger's Dylan impersonations in "Sister Morphine" ("Pleeeeaaase, Sister Morphine..."), but, I dunno the drug obsession all over SF kind of annoys me after a while (it's probably there on Exile, too, but I still don't understand most of the lyrics, so it doesn't get in the way).

Also I love "I Got The Blues", especially for the horns. Yeah, it's a homage that can sound like a parody, just like "Dead Flowers". But on "I Got The Blues" Mick's singing is less corny than on "Dead Flowers", and it's got a pretty dramatic buildup.

I haven't heard anyone praise "Happy," which is, probably, the giddiest Stones song of the seventies and the last Keef song until "Before They Make Me Run" which doesn't sound like he's slurring from underneath a pile of cig ash.

I've been listening to this a lot in the 18 months. Usually side two first. "Happy" is my favorite Keith song. I like it just about anytime. I prefer it to people some saturdays.

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"She Said Yeah" is faster than "Rip This Joint" IIRC (don't know "Flip the Switch" offhand)

YES BUT I WANT HEARTS, FLOWERS, UNICORNS, AND CANDY PILED IN ITS HONOR

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Charlie sounds fierce on "Flip The Switch," like a drum machine, and for all I know there's one in there too, since it's one of the Dust Brothers-produced tracks.

I kind of like Jagger's Dylan impersonations in "Sister Morphine" ("Pleeeeaaase, Sister Morphine...")

off-topic a bit, but "Jigsaw Puzzle" might be my favorite Dylan rip ever

Those drum fills Charlie does at the end of Rocks Off are divine. He just kills though out the whole record.

I haven't heard anyone praise "Happy," which is, probably, the giddiest Stones song of the seventies

this is actually the song that made me get Exile on Main Street, cuz I saw the Replacements do a cover version of it

I R A DORK

this is, btw, Mick Jagger's least favorite major Stones album.

Is there a EOMS song poll? I can't imagine any song leading.

xxxp [re Dylan]
I agree that "Jigsaw Puzzle" is better--and probably "she smiled sweetly" too.

I haven't heard anyone praise "Happy," which is, probably, the giddiest Stones song of the seventies

yeah, it could almost be called "Giddy" that song, esp. that four-note repeating high guitar line.

(I think there was an Exile poll, wasn't there?)

linked at the top of this thread

(results unsurprising)

boy, I am not AT ALL on my game today.

I have a few bootlegs of the Mats doing "Happy". Drunkenly.

Of all the late-early-mid era Stones albums, i'd place Exile... in a solid fourth; excepting, of course, if your definition of the late-early-mid era includes titles earlier than 1970's Get Your Ya-Ya's Out! then, i would entertain the possibility of exalting other late-early, early mid, and even late-mid-early titles.

This album fucking sucks.

Nah, it rules.

what a great album! like some other peeps on this thread it doesn't have my fave Stones songs, but as a collection it might be the best one. Used to not be all that into the sides 3 & 4, but i've come around to loving the whole damn thing. the murk rules! it really is a great headphones record -- all kindsa stuff going on beneath the surface.

One of the four or five greatest English-singing albums ever recorded and released. At the time, the way it confounded categories of fatigue and energy, young and adult suggested a beguiling future for rock. Unfortunately, those same confounded categories would prove insufferable as the 1980s rolled around.

Sprawling and messy and just huge. This album takes a long time to digest, and listening to it all at once can be a major undertaking.

As I tend to move back and forth b/t Stones albums depending upon the mood of the day/time of day, EOMS CAN be the greatest. It certainly ain't always the greatest.

And it doesn't have Moonlight Mile, which is my favorite Stones song. But it does have Ventilator Blues, which is my second favorite Stones song.

Great album.

Side 2 of Exile = possibly the best album side ever by anyone.

love it

I've been thinking about Sweet Black Angel. I didn't know it was written for Angela Davis. I wonder what she thinks of this song?

Keith's harmonies on that one are unearthly, aren't they?

Yes, Keith's contribution to the song really uh brings it on home.
See, I can listen to this album first thing in the morning at work.
But I started with side two! I'll go back to Rocks off after Soul Survivor.

'Shine A Light' has the best guitar solo on any record, anywhere.

You can almost guarantee that it's Mick Taylor's handiwork, then.

(The REAL fastest Stones record is "I Just Wanna Make Love To You" or "Surprise Surprise", surely?)

I've always been a bit lukewarm on "Exile" too, because of the couple-three absolute dead spots. I've given "Casino Boogie" 21 years and still think it sucks. But Side Two just kills.

perhaps of interest to those on this thread:
Peter Whitehead's '66 Rolling Stones film "Charlie Is My Darling"

Well I never kept a dollar past sunset,
It always burned a hole in my pants.
Never made a school mama happy,
Never blew a second chance, oh no

I need a love to keep me happy,
I need a love to keep me happy.
Baby, baby keep me happy.
Baby, baby keep me happy.

Always took candy from strangers,
Didnt wanna get me no trade.
Never want to be like papa,
Working for the boss every night and day.

I need a love to keep me happy,
I need a love, baby wont ya keep me happy.
Baby, wont ya keep me happy.
Baby, please keep me

I need a love to keep me happy,
I need a love to keep me happy.
Baby, baby keep me happy.
Baby, baby keep me happy.

Never got a flash out of cocktails,
When I got some flesh off the bone.
Never got a lift out of lear jets,
When I can fly way back home.

I need a love to keep me happy,
I need a love to keep me happy.
Baby, baby keep me happy.
Baby, baby keep me happy.

judge and jury walk out
hand in hand

OPEN FOH BIDNESS

i stumbled across this a couple of months ago. amateur footage of a 1973 show in australia, and the sound is basically excellent (apart from the beginning)

here's "happy"

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That's my channel, I synced up the soundboard audio to the footage shot by Deniz Tek - super nice guy and great foresight for bringing his super8 camera, haha.

ahh!! did you post this before on ilx?! or is this just a very fortunate happenstance??

It got posted a few months ago on some Stones thread. Either C/D or Goats Head Soup?

Keith's backup on Casino Boogie is one of my favorite moments of his, every time I hear I am reminded of 90s Memphis rocker Lorette Velvette (produced by Alex Chilton)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-TjPoNOMpc

Lorette Velvette now there’s a name I hadn’t thought about in 20+ years


Im a big Let it Loose stan but it does benefit mightily from the LA overdubs

"Let It Loose" is an absolute masterclass but I could understand dumping that or others from this for a single LP. it would've only benefited goats head soup or the subsequent albums.

The sunlight bores the daylights out of me

Sunshine ?

sunshine

my fave line

True tho

Documentary on "Exile on Main Street" gets off to a great start with Don Was claiming the album was recorded at the same time as Coppola was shooting "Apocalypse Now" - fyi Don the Vietnam War hadn't even finished yet. Then Keith claims the British government were out to get them because they were too powerful and that's why they had to leave the UK - it wasn't just about the tax dontcha know?

I surely must have misheard that Don Was quote, they couldn't possibly leave such a howler in the film could I? Mind you it was followed shortly after a brief clip of Jack White asking when it was recorded.

He must have mixed up Apocalypse Now with The Godfather

Possibly, he was making some bullshit point or other which wouldn't have worked with The Godfather.

don was not correct

lol these movies are for me very "I want to hear about what you're talking about but i really don't want the myth version you're going to hammer me over the head with for ninety minutes." at what point in this one does Dave Grohl appear

“Rip this joint blah blah blah”

This had the talking heads at the start at the end and, thankfully, not very much of them at all. 95% was footage and photos from the recording sessions with the Stones and associates doing voiceovers. Opening up with Don Was placing "Apocalypse Now" in 1971 and then showing Jack White not knowing when the album was recorded suggests they were taking the piss out of "classic album docu" conventions tbh. At least I like to think so.

at what point in this one does Dave Grohl appear

Same question as applied to Johnny Depp and Dick Cavett.

I thought c******* blues was the exile doc

There's another, "Official" one called Stones In Exile that accompanied the expanded reissue of the album back in 2010. I imagine this is the one being discussed? It includes some footage from CSB.

always love hearing how hard hit they were by taxes that they had to flee in their private jets to their Riviera chateaux

(xp) That's it.

Things like this make me agree with Mick Jagger that nostalgia sucks.

Should he read this message board, he should know we don't want him working with Aaron Dessner.