Insane Clown Posse Fans. No, they really do exist, BITCH. My question is.....WHY, JUGGALOS!?

Also:

Prove to me this isn't the same guy...

Yes. Both _Ringmaster_ and _Riddlebox_ are much, much better. _The Great Milenko_ is okay and then after that they go right back to stupid blahness. (Search also the "Tunnel Of Love" EP.)

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Insane Clown Posse
Carnival of Carnage
Rating ***
1992
Review
by Stephen Thomas Erlewine
The Insane Clown Posse introduced themselves to the world (well, at least Detroit) with their debut album, Carnival of Carnage. It pretty much spelled out their ludicrous sex'n'drugs'n'crime'n'murder'n'Faygo'n'racism manifesto in no uncertain terms, since subtlety was never part of their agenda. All ICP wants to do is rock the house as if they were a third-rate Beastie Boys supported by a cut-rate Faith No More, all tempered with the sensibility that made GWAR cult heroes -- only with, you know, more sexism and jokes that are supposed to be street, but wind up sounding racist. So, Carnival of Carnage delivers exactly what it promises. If you're down with the ICP -- if you're a juggalo (funny how close that is to "jigaboo," isn't it?) -- you'll find that this album got them off on the right track. If you're not with them, this will certainly give you reasons to hate them.

Strange how this still doesn't make me want to buy any more ICP.

From _Ringmaster_: "Murder Go Round", "Who Are You", "The Dead One", "My Fun House", "The Loons", "Wagon Wagon", "One For The Maggots", "Mr Johnson's Head"

From _Riddlebox_: "The Show Must Go On", "My Toybox", "12", "The Killing Fields", "The Joker's Wild", "I'm Coming Home", "Cemetery Girl", "Three Rings"

ICP had a great track early in their career called "Southwest Ghetto Zone." Generic slanging and banging lyrics about SW Detroit, but the beat sampled the synth line from "Do ya think I'm Sexy" and ripped.

Best lyric: I've got my nine in my gut and its starting to hurt/where can you keep a gat wearing Skidz and a t-shirt."

I think this is when the whole "Wicked Clownz" schtick was in its infancy.

names, plz!

So...does all of Roth's post-VH work give you all that 'not-so-fresh' feeling?

Yup.

(He liked Deadsy a lot, too.)

That's it.

Mac

I wonder: has that poster who revived the thread started shaving his half-grown 'stache yet?

x-x-post

This is me flying at my computer! I have a big crustache! What if I'm listening to ICP on my Sonys? Am I Colombiaggalo?

AM I NOW?

This is like a koan; if you meditate upon its meaning, the universe will offer up secrets.

Say it with me.

gawd, yer a friggin knucklehead.

res ipsa loquitur.

Couple of weeks ago I went next door from my office to get coffee at Starbucks, in the Doubletree Hotel. Parked at the curb was a white panel van with this on the dashboard and it just made my day. I like to imagine the driver heard about their new Faygo Spice Latte and had to have one.

http://i.imgur.com/vUtxYt9.jpg?2

mubi is watchable on the teevee with apple tv + ipad/phone airplay but then you need an apple tv
it's not like that in all countries, but is weirdly restrictive in america. it's the worst thing about that service.

schlump, i can see where you might've landed there; I don't feel like a half hour piece needs to be much more than be a surface-level exploration, especially when it's told from the perspective of the beholden.
no idea why the alpaca scene would've bummed you out. they looked pretty and well cared for.

thanks, forks; this was something i both didn't like & felt like an asshole for not liking, & i feel bad wading in here. i saw it in a room of people who were really responsive, & there's something kind of precious about finding it objectionable when it so clearly aligns with who it represents & what it set out to do. i think something that maybe got me was the collision of feeling so tonally indulgent - so including like the abandoned warehouse sequences - & then the formal, kinda presentative strategy of hesitating before each shot, so with the scene of two guys in bed under green light, including this ten seconds beat to separate you from what you were seeing. it felt kind of uncaring to me.

but yeah everyone still can watch this on whatever realmedia gameboy color stream mubi is offering, go for it

i think the juggalo gaze as presented here IS indulgent, self-absorbed, strategic and uncaring. i took as a feature what you took as a bug. i'm certainly not co-signing that worldview but it came through as honest and deeply felt (if philosophically flimsy) and understandably seductive. Like if your inheritance is suburban boredom and urban blight and there's no real war to fight except justifying your existence, why not play at conscientious objector and just check out in a cloud of hedonism and insouciance. Obvs that's always bottom line thinking with ICP types (and with most if not all 20th/21st century middle class youth movements) but stripped of language and the terrible terrible music, this felt like it was making a compelling, if hermetic, argument and one that i hadn't heard made by/for juggalos. i thought it was effective in presenting a serious alternate perspective that's otherwise easy to laugh off.
i hope this guy doesn't do a similar piece on gamergate i guess.

that ten second beat you're referring to was effective for me because it tested your presumptions of what two men sitting alone want, given my own prejudices and what I've seen prior. there's a bit of #notalljuggalos but it also felt like a very real display of shared intimacy, "if you prick us do we not bleed"

here's the article whiney refers to upthread
http://filmmakermagazine.com/86098-my-film-is-not-about-juggalos-it-is-a-juggalo-director-scott-cummings-on-making-buffalo-juggalos/
direct self comparisons to browning's freaks and

I’ve been surprised that many people assume everything in the film is real and I’ve taken to half-jokingly paraphrasing Francis Ford Coppola’s line about Apocalypse Now: “My film is not a documentary. My film is not about Juggalos. It is a Juggalo.” My hope is that through the film the myth of the Juggalo deepens and they become more mysterious, more other and more confrontational.

def good that this guy with an MFA is striving to make poor suburban kids on FBI watchlists "more other"

eh, i put that there in reference as explanation to your quoted article title
i dunno, watch it if you can; I thought it was pretty strong

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/aug/07/two-juggalos-charged-attemped-murder-insane-clown-posse-tattoo

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-lesbian-queen-of-the-juggalos-is-reinventing-beauty-standards

if you think this might be safe for your work then well you know best

that looks to me like the ur text from whence all broadly articles will spring

url/headline should read The Lesbian Queen of the Juggalettes.

Also noticed that Village Voice didn't do a Gathering roundup this year. What has happened to the journalistic standards of that once-great institution?

no money to send anyone i would guess

this link from upthread has aged well

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/676971916/faygo-huntin-made-simple-with-this-new-app

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/beauty/news/a42817/clown-contouring-for-sculpted-cheeks/

big money hustlas and big money rustlas are now on amazon prime video.

america 2016: violent j of the insane clown posse is now our voice of reason.

http://time.com/4521464/insane-clown-posse-killer-clowns/

2020's Republican nominee

https://twitter.com/AeTBench/status/803995993570181120

Somehow managed to miss this. Despite a clown being elected president the Juggalos are going to march on DC in September because they once got called a gang or something? Hope there's a live stream!
http://www.juggalomarch.com/

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/518iP2ENoyL._AA300_.jpg

they'll fit right in with those clowns in Washington!!

https://apnews.com/8028e1c92c0c454caa84aa1f6f9a86e2?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLWAn8Zssg

hahahahahahahahahaha

That song would certainly liven up Matty in the Morning