"She Sells Sanctuary" by the Cult....in actuality the BEST SONG EVER.

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I am downloading this now. I had previously just thought it a pleasant little brit-ditty, but I wasn't really thinking to hard, I admit.

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I thought I was the only one who thought "She Sells Sanctuary" was the best song ever. It's been my secret for years!

CA-CHING-CHING!

snazz, Friday, 10 September 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

(artdamages OTM; I have never understood Cult-mania)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

now I am dling all dan's songs...

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha see you in November!

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan, the Cure certainly are a fine little band who've released many fine little singles. But "She Sells Sanctuary" is perfection. I'm not saying everything the Cult did was brilliant. They certainly made more than their share of missteps. I'm just talking about this one solitary song.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like Unforgettable Fire-era U2 with a giant codpiece

*runs away*

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

It's much beefier than Unforgettable Fire-era U2.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Since when did "Homesick", "M", "Wailing Wall" and "World War" stop being Cure songs?
Ack!!! In my defense, they weren't listed together like with all of the other bands.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

THAT REMINDS ME:

The following U2 songs are better: "Pride", "Gloria", "I Will Follow", "Sunday Bloody Sunday", "Seconds", "Bullet THe Blue Sky", "With Or Without You", "Trip Through Your Wires", "Desire", "The Fly", "Even Better Than The Real Thing", "I Threw A Brick Through A Window", "Until The End Of The World", "Ultraviolet", "Numb", "Zoo Station", "Elevation", "Beautiful Day" and the second track on Boy.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Not in a squadrillion years, Dan. Have another bonghit.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Killing Joke Songs That Are Better Than "She Sells Sanctuary":

Eighties, Requiem, Unspeakable, Love Like Blood, You'll Never Get To Me

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost) Two can play the unreasonable blowhard card, my friend. Do not dance with the king unless you brought your best tap shoes.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(Only the king is going to bed now, so just mentally fill in strenuous disagreement with any posts you make disputing my position this evening, ok thx)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan are there any foxy-attempting long-hairs from the '80s you DO like? Anthrax so don't count.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

This wouldn't come anywhere near my "favourite songs of all time" list, but all the same it's classic, and an excellent choice. It's actually been far too long now since I've heard it. I was a big fan of the "Love" album. I remember how funny it was in the end-of-the-year NME/MM polls...I mean people literally either went apeshit over that album or they wanted to smash the vinyl over their knee. No inbetween.
The album also reminds me the way the 60's were so in vogue in my high school. Not that anyone else in my school was listening to The Cult, of course, but the Love album was the first time I realized there were these things called hippies and that style of paisley and such.

I don't understand why, though, out of all the songs on "Love", the one that still returns to my head sometimes is "Brother Wolf, Sister Moon". It's not like it was ever my favourite or anything. Music is weird in retrospect that way.

See now I'm going to have to pull that album out, and it's all your fault, Alex. It seems to me I did eventually get the b-sides to the Revolution 12", too...argh. Don't send me down this road! I've got plenty of other things to listen to I assure you!

Also I hate to say it but I agree with Barry...some of those KJ songs are better than She Sells Sanctuary.

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)


Killing Joke Songs That Are Better Than "She Sells Sanctuary":

Eighties, Requiem, Unspeakable, Love Like Blood, You'll Never Get To Me

You had me waivering until you cited "You'll Never Get to Me," which clearly indicates that you don't have the foggiest idea of what you're talking about. As far as I'm concerned, "She Sells Sanctuary"'s only real rival is "Eighties". "Requiem" and "Unspeakable" are both uniquely sublim, but "Sanctuary" still trumps them. "Love Like Blood" is great, but it's become Killing Joke's "Whip It". It's the song that, basically, steered them down some rum roads. For that, it is disqualified from the running.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I can understand your disqualification of "Eighties".

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, yeah. I mean, like "1969" by the Stooges, it's still a great song, but it's quite literally "DATED", which somewhat tempers its timelessness. It will always be my favorite, though, despite this flaw.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Do not dance with the king unless you brought your best tap shoes.

This is a great, great line.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

You had me waivering until you cited "You'll Never Get to Me,"
Certainly the worst song on the list, but I wanted something newer on there, and that's the best I've heard from them in a while.

Pardon me for daring to suggest that KJ have done something in the Upper Pantheon of Classic during the last 20 years.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

but I wanted something newer on there, and that's the best I've heard from them in a while.

What? "Blood On Your Hands" didn't do it for you? What about "Seeing Red" or "Implant"? What about "The Death a& Resurrection Show"? All those tracks take giant dumps on "You'll Never Get To Me," which -- though still better than "Loose Cannon" -- is far from the best part of that album.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

All good songs ... it's the anthemic chorus in "You'll Never Get To Me" that, er, gets to me.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreed that "Love Like Blood" is KJ's "Whip It", but unfortunately, I'd say "She Sells Sanctuary" is the Cult's "Whip It", so I'm not sure that argument holds.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(that argument = the argument for disqualifying the song from consideration here)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say "She Sells Sanctuary" transcends that stigma, though.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

the Cure certainly are a fine little band

You're fired.

"She Sells Sanctuary" is so utterly ridiculously good that it defies description, and so I shall not describe it.

*checks*

Oh wait, I did.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Sed Naid:

If the Cult has to be remembered for one song and one song only, then there's no question which it is — if Ian Astbury and Billy Duffy whipped up more powerful and explosive numbers later thanks to judicious selection of producers, the sheer energy, drive, and liveliness of "She Sells Sanctuary" remains untouchable. Duffy's liquid, quasi- psychedelic guitar intro over a buzz of flanged feedback suddenly rips into a triumphant, driving lead melody that's jaw-dropping, finding a synthesis between U2, Big Country, and Simple Minds that arguably trumps them all hands down. The addition of a quick acoustic strum as a counterpart doesn't hurt either, while the rhythm section keeps up a relentless drive that's at once solid and notably danceable, something most loud rock acts couldn't manage without remix therapy. All that's needed is for Astbury to top it off with a hell of a performance, and he delivers in spades, his voice strong and commanding, his just-evocative enough imagery of an overwhelming, passionate attraction coming across as celebratory invocation. Right down to his last call of "Sanctuary!" and a slow fadeout on Duffy's original guitar line, it's an early-'80s rock monster that stands the test of time.

DAMN well said, man.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually really did suddenly remember that review as I was typing out that message, but I wasn't sure until I went into the database.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I would've nominated "Love Removal Machine' as the best song ever written.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

THIS SONG INVENTED GREBO!

(Great song!)

Grebo Guru, Friday, 10 September 2004 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"Brother Wolf and Sister Moon/Your time has come/and the wind will blow my fears away/will dry my tears away/and dry my tears away (who never said they borrowed a smidgeon from Led Zeppelin?)

Embrace the wind with both arms
stop clouds dead in the sky
hang your head no more
and beg no more

Brother Wolf, AAAAAAAAAAAND Sister Moon.....
your time has come.....

And the wind/will blow my fears away/will dry my tears away/and
blow my fears away/and dry my tears away

{killer guitar solo}

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 10 September 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.brasil2000fm.com.br/imagens/Ian-Astbury.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

For God's sake, people, this song is SO GOTHIC! There's even the sound of THUNDER at the end of the song! Can you get more gothic than the sound of thunder at the end of your song called fucking "Brother Wolf, Sister Moon".

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 10 September 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

BIMBLE YOU MISSPELLED GREBO AGAIN. ROOSSEY, WHAT DEED YOU DOO DEES TIME?

Grebo Guru, Friday, 10 September 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, did you have any particular feeling about the title track of the album "Love"? A guitar wank to some perhaps, but it resonated with me for many years.

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 10 September 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I did not misspell Grebo. The problem is it was only a pretend phenomenon made up by the press. And in any case there are no "grebo" bands today.

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 10 September 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

HO HO HO YOU ARE WRONG MY FRIEND

Grebo Guru, Friday, 10 September 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

You are a jolly sort.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

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HOW WOUJOU LIKE SOME ANDROO DOUBLE JOO KAY IN JO HEEEEAAAAD!!!

Grebo Guru, Friday, 10 September 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The title track is okay. Apart from "Sanctuary", I think my favorite tracks on that record are "Nirvana", "Phoenix" and "Hollow Man". I always thought the intro riff to "Big Neon Glitter" was a bit of a "Pretty Vacant' swipe.

Least favorite was "Revolution," which is just too hippy dippy silly shitty for my taste.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard the 21st Century Doors yet! I'm a big fan of the original but is the Astbury group EVEN BETTER?

dave q, Friday, 10 September 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha ha that's pretty funny.

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 10 September 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Incidentally, the long version of "She Sells Sanctuary" is the preferred rendition.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Wolfchild had a bathroom problem...he couldn't make it in time!" - Ian Astbury

mute nostril agony, Friday, 10 September 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I would've nominated "Love Removal Machine' as the best song ever written.
-- the music mole

OTM, it's all about "LRM". Listen to them back to back.

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 10 September 2004 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I love "Love Removal Machine," but c'mon....it's simply a Stones/Zep pastiche, whereas "She Sells Sanctuary" is a much more graceful beast entirely.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it's a weird opinion to hold, but I like just about every song on the first side of Electric more than "LRM."

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 10 September 2004 06:39 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.muzikus.cz/clanky/002453_02.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 September 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, certainly the best CULT song ever, anyways. Shimmering flanged guitars as distinctive as any jangles that the Byrds or Television or Fleetwood Mac ever cooked up. Yeah, it's fucking great, down to the title, even: A true classic and one of the best remembered (and 'best') songs from that particular time/place.

But I gotta say that generally, I was mostly unmoved by most of the music made by most of the English bands of that era. (That era being roughly '84-present, and presumably to infinity.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

This is what I need, bitch. This is what I need.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn9hNQu5SoU

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 04:32 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

jesus christ @ me in this thread

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:53 (fifteen years ago)

Do not dance with the king unless you brought your best tap shoes.

Put this on a t-shirt and make a mint.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

I'm tempted to go back and list bands for each of those songs but I can't remember if I meant that to be "Dead" by The Pixies or something else

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

YEAH-HEAHHHHH

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 October 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

Dan's list would make an amazing Spotify playlist imo

skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 14 October 2012 01:49 (thirteen years ago)

Everytime I hear She Sells Sanctuary I keep waiting for the "Love Removal Machine" chorus, and then am mildly disappointed.

sarahell, Sunday, 14 October 2012 06:38 (thirteen years ago)

YEAH-HEAHHHHH

― Ned Raggett

agree

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 08:27 (thirteen years ago)

I remember when this was the very essence of indie-gone-wrong. I think purely because Ian Astbury once turned up at a Stone Roses gig in a leather coat.

I've seen him fronting The Doors, as it happens. It's one strange existence - he actually does inspire a degree of fervour, only it's from middle-aged men holding cameraphones, in comfortable auditoriums.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 14 October 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

I started one but gave up half way through, if anyone wants to finish it off.... It is amazing fwiw.

http://open.spotify.com/user/unterwasser/playlist/3Hkocs6acSuTDAoMiFB69V

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 14 October 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

Per the excellent WAFR (aka What a Fucking Record) account run by UK writer Ian Wade: happy fortieth anniversary to this all time banger.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 14:24 (one year ago)

Even by the standards of that album, a longtime fave of mine, that song jumps out.

Funny, pure coincidence, but I almost bought a Cult "Love" t-shirt just this morning! Of course I'd prefer to buy an official shirt, but it was $35, and around $50 with tax and shipping, so no thanks, Cult. It's not like they are being made in-house by some bespoke team, so I don't know how bad I would feel spending a fraction of that on a knockoff.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 15:49 (one year ago)

She Sells Sanctuary was my mum's getting ready to go out on a Saturday night music in the 80s

(It seems her 80s musical life keeps coming to mind with every thread I pop in today)

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 15:53 (one year ago)

Your mum had the right idea.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 16:09 (one year ago)

a highlight of the 'electronic music djs are playing rock music' period of the early 00s for me was prob wandering through the dance tent at glastonbury on a very warm day, in a bit of a state, trying to find my friends, and hearing 2manydjs play la rock by vitalic, then just as that wore off, they played this. i know people love live music but for me it is a little better to have a huge soundsystem and the original record playing to a few thousand people, in the right context anyway. absolutely huge liftoff for the... i shouldn't call it a 'breakdown' or a 'drop' but you know the bit i mean, lol.

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 16:26 (one year ago)

I go back and forth between this and "How Soon Is Now?" as the defining indie-riff of the 80's.

henry s, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 19:10 (one year ago)

manics did a kick ass cover of this when I saw them a few years ago

brimstead, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 16:37 (one year ago)

Yeah they've been doing that for a bit, saw them in 2022 and they busted it out.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 16:43 (one year ago)

I go back and forth between this and "How Soon Is Now?" as the defining indie-riff of the 80's.

Billy and Johnny were at school together, iirc; friends since their early teens.

fetter, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 20:10 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgUCIotNJF0

blagobu, Saturday, 17 May 2025 18:57 (one year ago)

Shades of Axl's "gimme some reggae!!"

There was an interview with Astbury in I want to say the Quietus where he came off simultaneously smart and perceptive and self-aware and utterly daft and ridiculous at the same time. I love "Love," "Electric" and "Sonic Temple," but as for the rest I've never been able to figure this band out.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 May 2025 19:17 (one year ago)

Last night here in Los Angeles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rzc54pV918

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 17 May 2025 22:16 (one year ago)

Thanks for sharing!

Love was one of my first loves.

Bee OK, Sunday, 18 May 2025 02:59 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soZ-dd84N2Q

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 May 2025 04:27 (one year ago)

aw that is rather nice i did not expect to enjoy it so much

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Sunday, 18 May 2025 04:27 (one year ago)

Re the et’s cut— will check jic’s

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Sunday, 18 May 2025 04:28 (one year ago)


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